Seeker - another "fist" class?

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide

Njdragon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So they are restricted to using only the claymore?

there is no claymore, the claymore is a lie, much like the cake. seekers use swords and dual swords, they are put on the seekers back while not in battle stance to give the appearance of a claymore.

seekers= swords/blades/dual swords/dual blades
mystics= the origional magic weapons

Granrey - Sanctuary

Aparently the dps in normal attack for seeker is based on mastery similar to BM plus a skill that buff the sword for certain amount of time.

In other words they want to make sure the DPS from seeker is higher than Sword BM.

Saying that, every blademaster can use the fist skill to increase attack rate and then switch back to sword. Which is very easy, you just unequiped weapon/use skill/back to sword. Also BM can use other skills to increase DPS and back to sword again.

So, still debatable which one will have better DPS in normal attack. However, what it more likely certain is that seeker will not have to be dealing with the multiweapon thing to increase dps.

Regenbogen - Lost City

yes earthguard cant use fist/claw...
if you roll one and only played interval so far prepare for a really bad headache...b:shutup

Marche - Harshlands

no u can only use swords, blades, dual swords, and dual blades as a seeker u cant equip fists, poles, axes, bows, daggers


as well on topic of inter on seekers highest you can get is 2.44 with a sword or blade and 1.79 with a dual sword or dual blade

if by chance you had the dual swords from harpy wraith you would get a 0.05 increase but that would only bump you up to 1.92 sparked

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f65f37e3d744b921 <==Dual Sword

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=410ff430dd135b27 <===Swords

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e153b5be26a44ec0 <===Inter Dual Swords

Evict - Heavens Tear

Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »

yes earthguard cant use fist/claw...
if you roll one and only played interval so far prepare for a really bad headache...b:shutup

That won't stop some people, ijs. b:surrender

Njdragon - Heavens Tear

wow this gives me a great glimpse into the seeker now. I can`t believe no caymore though.

and no I am not saying that we should have only bms and sins, I am a pure axe bm, and i have been trying out polearms recently, so i have no desire for 5 aps on my bm. I have been told I will be "useless" for the higher lvls, and oh well.

Haden - Dreamweaver

Seekers have a lot of attack modifiers that from my understanding make up the difference of not having 5aps. Most importantly; the skill that allows them to transfer negative status to their target (nix bleed back to veno).


5aps isn't a major part of the seeker class so trying to make it into one people will be sadly disappointed. From understanding, this class will actually require timing and skill, both of which are foreign concepts in Pwi as of late.

People will probably play a seeker/mystic, then understand that their class isnt an aps class but is far more capable of DDing, and then stop playing them because they dont have an easy mode.

Tamias - Archosaur

Why does everything have to be about 5 APS? Its not the ONLY way to play them game or do some ppl barely have an attention span of a mushroom? Oh yeah I forgot-why put in an extra 2-3 clicks when you can sit back and punch mindlessly? Someone didnt have a good memory of Mike Tyson's Punchout in their childhood....b:surrender

Jokes aside I like the fact that you actually have to THINK to play seeker hopefully brings more variety to PvP.

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver

Tamias - Archosaur wrote: »

Why does everything have to be about 5 APS? Its not the ONLY way to play them game or do some ppl barely have an attention span of a mushroom? Oh yeah I forgot-why put in an extra 2-3 clicks when you can sit back and punch mindlessly? Someone didnt have a good memory of Mike Tyson's Punchout in their childhood....b:surrender

Jokes aside I like the fact that you actually have to THINK to play seeker hopefully brings more variety to PvP.

of course not. you can also go kill lvl1 mobs and gather coins

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

Seekers will be hanging out with me (when they're not taking my spot in FC squads b:sad), so they don't need 5aps b:cool

They jus gotta use dat fancy fire/earth +damage/crit skill and let me do my thang b:cute

Vindrael - Lost City

Tamias - Archosaur wrote: »

Why does everything have to be about 5 APS? Its not the ONLY way to play them game or do some ppl barely have an attention span of a mushroom? Oh yeah I forgot-why put in an extra 2-3 clicks when you can sit back and punch mindlessly? Someone didnt have a good memory of Mike Tyson's Punchout in their childhood....b:surrender

Jokes aside I like the fact that you actually have to THINK to play seeker hopefully brings more variety to PvP.

I agree, I also hope it brings some fresh blood into the game.

As far as APS goes, don't forget that there will be -int stones in the new expansion. Each stone is a -0.05 interval, so if you stuck two of those into a seeker's sword they might be able to reach 3 APS. Of course, other classes will likely use them as well, so we'll have a bunch of 4APS natural sins and BMs running around...

Finally, everything is about APS because PWI was not designed to handle 5 APS. Instances were designed to be run by a squad in an hour, not run by a single 5APS assassin in 6 minutes. b:chuckle Because the game mechanics and design are fundamentally broken, 5 APS classes are basically taking advantage of a glitch that allows them to farm efficiently.

Perma-spark at 5 APS means:

- Purified every 6 seconds
- Immune to all damage 50% of the time
- 700% more damage dealt than normal
- Any self-heal skill is far more effective than normal

Just hitting fast isn't what makes APS so over-powered. It's all of the additional traits a triple-spark gives you (and why it was rumored they would take away the extra benefits of triple spark - a rumor that has been shown to be false, fortunately).

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Vindrael - Lost City wrote: »

I agree, I also hope it brings some fresh blood into the game.

As far as APS goes, don't forget that there will be -int stones in the new expansion. Each stone is a -0.05 interval, so if you stuck two of those into a seeker's sword they might be able to reach 3 APS. Of course, other classes will likely use them as well, so we'll have a bunch of 4APS natural sins and BMs running around...

Finally, everything is about APS because PWI was not designed to handle 5 APS. Instances were designed to be run by a squad in an hour, not run by a single 5APS assassin in 6 minutes. b:chuckle Because the game mechanics and design are fundamentally broken, 5 APS classes are basically taking advantage of a glitch that allows them to farm efficiently.

Perma-spark at 5 APS means:

- Purified every 6 seconds
- Immune to all damage 50% of the time
- 700% more damage dealt than normal
- Any self-heal skill is far more effective than normal
Just hitting fast isn't what makes APS so over-powered. It's all of the additional traits a triple-spark gives you (and why it was rumored they would take away the extra benefits of triple spark - a rumor that has been shown to be false, fortunately).

you have no idea how 5 aps works do you?

Lupumid - Sanctuary

Vindrael - Lost City wrote: »

As far as APS goes, don't forget that there will be -int stones in the new expansion. Each stone is a -0.05 interval

I've seen the stones your talking about, none of them were -interval. Regardless they only last for at most an hour. I'll take a look in 1k streams, but i doubt they'll be there.