Help PLEASE!

LostKiller - Heavens Tear

Hello Forum ,
I am here cause of a problem.. I am not a cash shoper.. but because I am a Sage BM, wanting 5.0 aps .. I have 2 choices either spend little by little and make my armor.. OR spend the 170mil I have in Tiger Packs and open about 400packs.. Can people advice me on this... Will 400 pakc have a good chance of something for me or what? PLEASE HELP! Thank youb:cryb:surrenderb:kissb:victory

Eoria - Harshlands

How lucky do you feel? b:bye

Furries - Dreamweaver

hello, your likely trolling but im ganna answer you anyways.

PWE only care about Money. The only reason this isn't Pay to Play is becuase PWE is making more $ from cash shoppers that they would if they instated any reasonable monthly fee. PWE has no intention of making endgame gear available for non cash shoppers. And is only intrested in fixing things that affect their income.

i managed to stay cash shop free till 89.

prevously you were able to get tt90 stuff cheaply. So guess what. PWI made tt90 only doable for cash shoppers. efftively forcing everyone who wants lvl90+ gear to cash shop.

or not goign to hit 5 aps. and as long as 5 aps continues to make them more $ there not ganna fix it.

Eoria - Harshlands

Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »

prevously you were able to get tt90 stuff cheaply. So guess what. PWI made tt90 only doable for cash shoppers. efftively forcing everyone who wants lvl90+ gear to cash shop.

3-1 is easy still. You just need a better squad now.

Granrey - Sanctuary

Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »

hello, your likely trolling but im ganna answer you anyways.

PWE only care about Money. The only reason this isn't Pay to Play is becuase PWE is making more $ from cash shoppers that they would if they instated any reasonable monthly fee. PWE has no intention of making endgame gear available for non cash shoppers. And is only intrested in fixing things that affect their income.

i managed to stay cash shop free till 89.

prevously you were able to get tt90 stuff cheaply. So guess what. PWI made tt90 only doable for cash shoppers. efftively forcing everyone who wants lvl90+ gear to cash shop.

or not goign to hit 5 aps. and as long as 5 aps continues to make them more $ there not ganna fix it.

not true, anyone can get tt90. I dont cash shop and I have the following tt90:

-TT 90 gold chest and gold wrists.
-TT 90 green boots
-TT 90 sword, fists and axes
-Lunar 85 poleblade

the rest of the gear is either legendary or 3 stars.

I will switch most of my gear to 95+ legendary and some TT99 gold.

The issue is to get Nirvana gear (which I;m not aiming to). That one is more cash shopper related.

LostKiller - Heavens Tear

I guess everyone went oftopic.. but my question was should i go slowly.. or do i stand a chance with tiger packs? i opened 400 of em

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver

u basically ask: should i go in a casino gamble with all my money hoping that i'll win or try to slowly build a fortune? how would anyone answer that?

Astraea - Raging Tide

unless all uve done is hyper ur way up, ur kidding right?
completely possible to get ur gears w/o CSing, how?

Learn to Merchant, Farm some of the stuff(it IS still possible to farm w/ a decent squad, and no doesnt have to be an already OP squad)

doing this u could basically have full TT99 if u know what to buy/sell to make a good profit, and i mean w/o trying to scam ppl, sure it'd take a while longer than cash shopping but hey, didnt spent any of ur own RL money now did u?

as for what ThanosQRT said, id rather try to build a fourtune over time instead of wasting the money on something that isnt guaranteed to make a decent profit

Obly - Dreamweaver

I've been on this server since the first week, so about 2 years.

I worked on 1 character only.

Current gear: Rank 8 Bow +7, 2x Sign of Frost Choas, TT99 orna, bracer, legs, top,
Warsoul Helmet, lvl 4 tome (made this about 1.5 years back, so old skool system.)

all 4 socket, top with cit gems and +7

Bow 2x Garnet Gem.

Almost got nirvy pants uncannies ready, (prays for 4 sockets :P)

all gear +5 or +6.

RL cash spend on game, 400 USD.


So i say farm, don;t cash. It will give you something to do, and make the game more enjoyable for you. (Doo NOT open 400 darn packs) <-- My suggestion

Or get a CC and max it out, your choice. (Do open 400 Packs)


I did all the above while working 10-11 hours a day, and running a faction. So you should be able to do it in way less time. (If you can play enough)

Obly out

xcliqz

It depends on your luck tbh,

lets say you open packs and get something good, then you are lucky.

If you got only tokens then you are basically screwed and have to start collect money all over again.

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary

Warren made something to demonstrate this a while ago. But basically, you have a very good chance of turning your 170m into about 50m with no benefits. Don't do it.

Do NOT go sage. You'll regret it. Unless something has changed sage BM's can't hit 5.0 yet anyway without a genie, which sucks in high level instances where you need your genie to do other things.

With 170m, you can afford a standard 4.0 hybrid LA/HA demon BM. 2 Parts tt99 HA, 2 parts tt99 LA, Lunar Cape, Deicide. From there farm nirvana until you can recast your pants and buy a lionheart ornament, and you'll be 5.0.

Bellarie - Raging Tide

Astraea - Raging Tide wrote: »

Learn to Merchant,

Yeah, because EVERYONE has a computer capable of leaving catshop open in west arch all the time, right? And EVERYONE has enough coin/gold in the beginning to merchant. Not to mention, the entire point in playing an MMORPG such as this is the MERCHANT, not to ENJOY THE GAME, right?

LostKiller - Heavens Tear

Unfortunalty (fortunatly for me), I am already sage, just like people said it's about enjoying the game .. and i beleive sage being harder to mkae 4.0+ I enjoy it to the fullest Believe me I do... Now back to the point.. I am not CCing.. never have.. i think in this game i spent about 100$ in 2 years... and they were all a gift to me.. I been playing this game for 2 years also but i have switchd chars over and over.. but now i am stuck wth my lvl 85 wizzy and 92 sageBM.. i have FARMED 170mil.. by merchanting.. buying and selling things.. without riping people.. getting molds.. farmingTT.. quests... and RB and more.. so yeah.. no cash cards or anything.. So I was just wondering. apparently people are saying not to. But how many here have opened packs? and what they have got? just wondering .. this is a make or break decision for me and if everyone understands this will make me or break me..

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

I've opened ~ 200-300 packs and have got ****. My wife has opened far less than I have and wound up with a Scroll of Tome, Helm of Holy Punishment, Wing Trophy Lunar, and so on.

You're playing a gamble that most people lose out on. Whereas, selling the packs and getting coin is going to ensure that you can take that coin and make more from it. Think of it like.. taking money you were using and either investing it into a good set of clothes and a car for a job, or blowing it all on lottery tickets and hoping to get rich.

And of course if you're suggesting this will make or break you, which sounds like the possibility of quitting, well, don't be stupid and gamble obviously as your chances are far greater of losing out than coming out on top?

Keliska - Raging Tide

heh sold 10 packs for 9 packs worth so I could buy needed mats for my TT70. Find out that not only the price jumped from 150k to 300-375k, that the damn Archer got 2 Best Tokens and a Scroll of Tome. -.-; Was pissed for that week and I am a lil now when I think about it.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

Opened one Anny Pack when they first came out, got tokens, haven't touched them since.

xcliqz

Opened 100 packs, got only 1 best luck. Thats about it.

CeliaZ - Sanctuary

I miss the time where BMs were happy without 4-5aps and grinded with me holding swords or spears.

No_peas - Heavens Tear

Well, here's the maths for you.

Saying you open all 400 packs and only get tokens. That's 6000 tokens. They are selling for about 12k atm, so that equals 72mil, just assuming you only get tokens.
Now in this bunch, you are bound to get some best lucks... surely, or your luck really sucks. So you could assume to walk out of it with an extra 100mil.
Up to you whether you think that the risk is worth it.
i myself went on a pack opening rampage and opened 200 at once, and only got 1 best luck, the rest normal tokens. i was a bit bummed about it, but i knew the risks before i did it, and i like a bit of a gamble

AiriJen - Heavens Tear

Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »

hello, your likely trolling but im ganna answer you anyways.

PWE only care about Money. The only reason this isn't Pay to Play is becuase PWE is making more $ from cash shoppers that they would if they instated any reasonable monthly fee. PWE has no intention of making endgame gear available for non cash shoppers. And is only intrested in fixing things that affect their income.

i managed to stay cash shop free till 89.

prevously you were able to get tt90 stuff cheaply. So guess what. PWI made tt90 only doable for cash shoppers. efftively forcing everyone who wants lvl90+ gear to cash shop.

or not goign to hit 5 aps. and as long as 5 aps continues to make them more $ there not ganna fix it.

im not a "real" cash shopper and not farming TT 90 for my sin but on HT i recently (like yesterday) bought all my mats for my TT90 pant, TT80-90 Ornaments, TT90 wrists, and TT80-90 weapons for 6mil O.o thats like the cost of the top alone made. 0,0 sounds pretty good to me. to answer OP's question id totaly not even waste my time with the packs . if you said 170mil in packs

on HT that could get your lunar glade cape, practiclly all your TT90-99 gear, maybe decides if you wait for the cheap TT mats to pop up in AH/catshops which is often <.<

Tryndal - Heavens Tear

Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »

not true, anyone can get tt90. I dont cash shop and I have the following tt90:

-TT 90 gold chest and gold wrists.
-TT 90 green boots
-TT 90 sword, fists and axes
-Lunar 85 poleblade

the rest of the gear is either legendary or 3 stars.

I will switch most of my gear to 95+ legendary and some TT99 gold.

The issue is to get Nirvana gear (which I;m not aiming to). That one is more cash shopper related.

LOL TT90 Gold chest is much easier to get than TT90 Green

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

CeliaZ - Sanctuary wrote: »

I miss the time where BMs were happy without 4-5aps and grinded with me holding swords or spears.

Yeah grinded for sure but I remember seeing maybe a handful of people with non-aps builds at endgame on the server where I played, long before PWI. b:chuckle

Clandore - Lost City

Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lunar 85 poleblade

???
Frost 85? Or Lunar 95?

Astraea - Raging Tide

Bellarie - Raging Tide wrote: »

Yeah, because EVERYONE has a computer capable of leaving catshop open in west arch all the time, right? And EVERYONE has enough coin/gold in the beginning to merchant. Not to mention, the entire point in playing an MMORPG such as this is the MERCHANT, not to ENJOY THE GAME, right?

who said anything about leaving a catshop in archo? lol

coin u prolly wont need/be able to get till 7x which is when things start getting slightly bit costly since u can make do w/ most random gears b4 then (so not advised tho ><), which by that time u should be able to do SOMETHING to get a bit of coin to start as in maybe kill a few mobs for DQ or other stuff that sells? look up database for mobs with decent drop rates for certain items and start there

as for Catshop in archo: use Auction House mby? personally hate going to west archo specially now with the snowmen still around, but even just a bit of time to look around every once in a while can help. bout Auction House - can farm some TT mats and sell ofc, sell more than leaving your comp all day at west since some ppl are greatly impatient to look for the shops labled "TT mats" or w/e variation, specially around forges
o and the great thing about AH is u DONT have to be online all day, just put it in and wait

Ermosa - Heavens Tear

Bellarie - Raging Tide wrote: »

Yeah, because EVERYONE has a computer capable of leaving catshop open in west arch all the time, right? And EVERYONE has enough coin/gold in the beginning to merchant. Not to mention, the entire point in playing an MMORPG such as this is the MERCHANT, not to ENJOY THE GAME, right?

you can merchant by using auction house too, so stop whining

for OP i don't suggest to gamble, just buy gears slowly

Jadsia - Lost City

Bellarie - Raging Tide wrote: »

Yeah, because EVERYONE has a computer capable of leaving catshop open in west arch all the time, right? And EVERYONE has enough coin/gold in the beginning to merchant. Not to mention, the entire point in playing an MMORPG such as this is the MERCHANT, not to ENJOY THE GAME, right?

I think he was referring to the OP keeping a catshop open and not 'everyone'. And, last time I checked West arch people were catshopping there 24/7. I've seen others make over 800 mil in a few months catshopping and merchanting and yes part of this MMORPG is to make coin ergo why we have an large economy and the ability to catshop in the 1st place. If some can't do that then that's their problem. They should buy a Nintendo and play donkey kong instead.