This made me lol (your view)

Mosz - Heavens Tear

@Thelas_Carr you don't realize very few merchants actually open packs, do you? when pwi makes the npc value of a pack double, its the merchants fault for gold price doubling? *facepalm*

@WnBTank, thank you

@Obly , agree wtf is GM responses nowadays lol

@Anima you missed the argument, he said without people buying tokens packs wouldnt have value, i proved packs have a high purely NPC value(note the npc value is much higher then gold was before packs) you totally missed the point.

@Janus good job changing subject, and changing the meaning of my msg, and yes its totally cool to cause 100% inflation on a whim from week to week(or month to month).

AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary

@ Mosz, Erhm, no i didn't. O.o ...

Granted i did quote the wrong friggen post you made X.X

I lol'd cause you made a comment on Learn2play, open packs opposed to farming coin.

Learning to play isn't about opening packs and made it seem like you were supporting the marketing of PW. When obviously you state you dont and dont cash shop.
And if you say Pack have a high purely NPC value, i think my calculations pretty much proved packs aren't worth **** in terms of coins.
and grabbing back on the past tense expierences you might or might not have with prior gold value does nothing NOW.
Changes have already been implemented, the way things are now ( is where i took my calculation from ) and showed you that in terms of current state economy, opening a pack isn't as simple and your comment on learn2play, opening packs + coin value + pisspoor chances of actually getting something + IF your purely out to make coin. (which was the argument, ne ?)
that packs werent the solution.

So ... i dont think i missed the argument O.o ...
( dont get me wrong i do see what your trying to say XD )

Mosz - Heavens Tear

AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »

@ Mosz, Erhm, no i didn't. O.o ...

Granted i did quote the wrong friggen post you made X.X

I lol'd cause you made a comment on Learn2play, open packs opposed to farming coin.

Learning to play isn't about opening packs and made it seem like you were supporting the marketing of PW. When obviously you state you dont and dont cash shop.
And if you say Pack have a high purely NPC value, i think my calculations pretty much proved packs aren't worth **** in terms of coins.
and grabbing back on the past tense expierences you might or might not have with prior gold value does nothing NOW.
Changes have already been implemented, the way things are now ( is where i took my calculation from ) and showed you that in terms of current state economy, opening a pack isn't as simple and your comment on learn2play, opening packs + coin value + pisspoor chances of actually getting something + IF your purely out to make coin. (which was the argument, ne ?)
that packs werent the solution.

So ... i dont think i missed the argument O.o ...
( dont get me wrong i do see what your trying to say XD )

you misses the OLOLOLOLOLOL at the end of the statement to learn2play open packs? IT WAS A COMMENTARY ON THE PISSPOOR QUALITY PLAYERBASE WE HAVE, DERP.seriously?
and on a seriously note a significant amount of people have made 99% of their money opening packs, or being encouraged to cash shop pretty solely for packs.
the argument was NOT THAT packs are currently a statistical profit, they WOULD be if gold was any cheaper, which was GM/manger/staff intention
now that you completely missed my sarcasm here let me show you how you are incorrect even moreso:
the reason gold doesn't want to go down more is anyone with half a brain knows if they buy gold any cheaper and save it for when there is a sale and we all KNOW there will be , they'll have huge profits directly due to our great staff! it would even be a statistical profit then to open packs if you get gold during between sale slumps......hmm..hmm.... (so my sarcastic commentary on packnubs, and subsequence "OLOLOLOLOL" which you mistook as actual advice... IS actually valid!)

and you totally missed the part when i said noobs get lucky at a low lvl and don't have to farm till endgame, "lucky" yah thats a hint there.

AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary

wasn't taking a Your wrong and i'm right approach =\

but w/e

Nhuey - Raging Tide

SgtSandbox - Archosaur wrote: »

/10char

+10char

Haden - Dreamweaver

*sighs contently* It's been almost a month since I've played pwi, or been on the forums. I was kinda starting to miss these, and seeing the gold prices so high, in fact higher than they were before I logged off. All the self-flagellation that pw puts its player base through just almost makes me cringe; but you know what they say, One man's pain~



Ignorance is bliss isnt it?

KAZMOENEEK - Heavens Tear

It's weird when people say chances to get a token of best luck is like a 1.75 % chance or something when you have people on our server winning back to back to back....I guess the more you pay you become a VIP or something lol..


And again why do people cry about the gold..go get a card for ten bucks instead of a six pack of beer and a carton of cigs.,and sell to the gamblers it's awesome!

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary wrote: »

Edit: For Paramedic, becuase the above is probably still too much text for him... Merchants drive the gold exchange rate in reaction to what PWE puts in the Boutique; the non-merchants simply get buffeted by the waves that the merchants create.

it is just easier to respond, to one sentence than all your scribbles lol.

to make it clear (get ready for my scribbles):
yes, it is 99% pw fault; game economy is designed by developer. if we -regular players- can see how it exactly works, then i assume, devs can do same.

saying that 'it is just supply and demand' vel 'merchants (or whoever) fault' is naive. Intended inflation, encouraging to merchant and no 1m gold ceiling speaks for itself.
also fact that pw dont mind superfarmers (if they dont earn 'too, too much')...

this created playerbase, where one small group is very rich (and 'feels' richer and richer thx to inflation) and big poor group (often frustrated, so they rush to charge gold, when it 'temporary' hits 1m).

ofc saying that only rich group makes gold go high, is big simplification. everyone who ever bought gold in AH is 'guilty', but that just tl;dr to write about it.

anyway, economy is designed to increase gold prices, whenever pw want.


im not going to cry about it. just saying how it works.
it is pw who provide you 'tools' to make coins, either, if it is merchant, opening packs or super-farming - all are valid (not an exploit).
and despite of what some cashshopers would want to think, (some) f2p players are very valuable for pw: they are tool, to control gold prices.


(this triade is just inb4 'lets bash greedy merchants for gold prices' topics)

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

When i read this post, i thought, yorda...why necro.

But then I saw the spin-off and thought...hmm..

frankieraye or any other GM has never come back on that subject. Ever since the TW "Fix" Prices have only gone UP instead of down, as most of us expected.

Though it would have worked, if they would not have introduced PACKS PACKS and MORE PACKS! as a permanent addition to the Btq.

In other words, PWE was smart in how 2 get money from us all. PWE was simply **** 2 think that this would be a sustainable earning model for their business.

A giant rift has appeared within the game and its community, don;t believe me? Double check the forums increase in activity and discussions in the last 6 months or so, then make a conclusion out of that.

Secondly, PWE is so screwed up now, they can;t seem 2 figure out how 2 respond to this all. Or is it me that Frankieraye or the fluffy kitten GM NEVER seem to respond to anything anymore, hoping that by ignoring it all, and just riding it out till the expansion comes out it will go away like a bad headache.

To the GM's, I am daring you to explain the long term planning on the entire system here, too post the results of your analysis regarding your so called "Fixes" and the conclusion.

Who wants 2 bet 10 Gold their never gonna respond 2 the above?

they dont have to. the game is still making money for them. thousands have been spent in the last couple months per server on warsoul weapons, 99 gold, nirvana, rank gear, packs, flyers, etc. they are running a successful business out of a F2P, gamble to get rich, Pay to Win game. They put gear out there that's epic pwnage and for the pure cash shoppers it was quick to obtain, then more followed suit just to "keep up". If money can buy ultimate power, why not? Sure they may loose quite a lot of purely F2P players or the "not so much a CS player" players by providing OP gear to the hardcore cash shoppers and merchants, but what does that matter to them when they bank big bucks per month by offering the best gears in boutique to those that are willing to use their credit card. Of course, come the new expansion you can be pretty sure there will be new gears released that make r8/r9/nirvy obsolete and the process will repeat. More people will charge more money to be the top geared players.

Now, gold isn't the only thing in this game that has gone up in coin value with recent events. Some things that were put on sale are now cheaper of course, but things like skill book pages (the non tokenable ones at any rate) have just about doubled in price, and tome frags which used to go for about 20k at one time are now near 200k a piece. On a good day i can come out of CoF with a 300k profit (or more if i get ecstasy card or w/e that other one is). Do a full delta and i bank over 3 mil. Of course this doesn't touch what the cash shoppers are able to make in a day by spamming 5.0 nirvana runs - but its far more than I've ever made in a week previously. IMO being able to buy a perfect citrine shard in just one days work is rolling in the dough.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

uhh tome fragments were 60-100k inb4 last sales (20k was really long time ago).

now, perfect citrine example is cool, but you forgot that, higher gold makes many items price go up as well (including charm for rb, if you need one).


good point (about rb being more effective way to earn now), but would be nice if you dont forget about objectivism :P

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear

I wish they would do this: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=937412

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

if they would want to decrease gold price..

Furries - Dreamweaver

Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »

speaking of dragon points.. brace yourself for next tuesdays

and give a nice warm welcome to



Spoiler!!!!!











dragon orders...

late as usual...

oh well no real surprise there..

well its coming soon anyways...

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide

well, ya gotta admit, it was a good theory. since it didn't work tho, can yall please un-nerf the TWs? it's not going down, if anything it's going up^^ so again, nice try, but back to the drawing boards plz, and un-nerf the TWs in the meantime to make TWs more fun again please.