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I do not mind BMs wearing fists, they can use their skills and do more damage than clawchers and clawbarbs no matter how hard that clawcher or clawbarb try, unless one thing, more APS and refines, APS by maybe 1 attack more (rank chest archer armor) and at least +5 more than BMs using fists.
tweakz is right, 5.0 is not broken unless they are veno, BM and assassin.
Now for the randoms in TT squads I been with, was all of them fail runs? no. I had 70% of successful runs, all of them were using the correct weapons, not much of them were even LVL90 or more, that other 30% was fail runs. I was lucky I ran into few fail squads, yet still miffed about it kind of.
Was all the 30% of the physical classes relied on interval + genie? Yes, all of them (90% of barbs/archers). It took literally 3x (on average) longer than how it was done without the interval needs.
Instead of 10 mins to kill a TT boss normally, it took a half an hour. They were braggers too "I can solo this -inserts instance here- NP". I actually had patience and just suggested with different approach when it comes to the tactic fail.
Now I tanked a TT1-2 with my LVL55 main barb with faction, and yes, that included a 5.0 demon BM with dedicides , he killed pretty fast, but he did not take aggro from my LVL55 barb that much, all I done was spam skills and he spammed. No one died, my HP seems high for a barb my LVL (though I do not think 6.7k HP is enough) you can never have enough HP.... But BM was using cyclone heel too, to get spark. A huge difference, the BM uses his skills properly, compared to the random ones.
Why would archer / barb would want to perma spark? That is what the real fast attackers are for.
DPS as barb / archer? Make an STR barb, add more DMG/DEX to your bow on your archer
P.S: Next time in TTs, if I see an archer or barb being serious with LVL70 or above fists, I will either kick them from squad if I have lead, or leave squad. Same goes for BMs/assassins only doing normal attacks.
tweakz is right, 5.0 is not broken unless they are veno, BM and assassin.
Now for the randoms in TT squads I been with, was all of them fail runs? no. I had 70% of successful runs, all of them were using the correct weapons, not much of them were even LVL90 or more, that other 30% was fail runs. I was lucky I ran into few fail squads, yet still miffed about it kind of.
Was all the 30% of the physical classes relied on interval + genie? Yes, all of them (90% of barbs/archers). It took literally 3x (on average) longer than how it was done without the interval needs.
Instead of 10 mins to kill a TT boss normally, it took a half an hour. They were braggers too "I can solo this -inserts instance here- NP". I actually had patience and just suggested with different approach when it comes to the tactic fail.
Now I tanked a TT1-2 with my LVL55 main barb with faction, and yes, that included a 5.0 demon BM with dedicides , he killed pretty fast, but he did not take aggro from my LVL55 barb that much, all I done was spam skills and he spammed. No one died, my HP seems high for a barb my LVL (though I do not think 6.7k HP is enough) you can never have enough HP.... But BM was using cyclone heel too, to get spark. A huge difference, the BM uses his skills properly, compared to the random ones.
Why would archer / barb would want to perma spark? That is what the real fast attackers are for.
DPS as barb / archer? Make an STR barb, add more DMG/DEX to your bow on your archer
P.S: Next time in TTs, if I see an archer or barb being serious with LVL70 or above fists, I will either kick them from squad if I have lead, or leave squad. Same goes for BMs/assassins only doing normal attacks.
I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »I do not mind BMs wearing fists, they can use their skills and do more damage than clawchers and clawbarbs no matter how hard that clawcher or clawbarb try, unless one thing, more APS and refines, APS by maybe 1 attack more (rank chest archer armor) and at least +5 more than BMs using fists.
tweakz is right, 5.0 is not broken unless they are veno, BM and assassin.
Now for the randoms in TT squads I been with, was all of them fail runs? no. I had 70% of successful runs, all of them were using the correct weapons, not much of them were even LVL90 or more, that other 30% was fail runs. I was lucky I ran into few fail squads, yet still miffed about it kind of.
Was all the 30% of the physical classes relied on interval + genie? Yes, all of them (90% of barbs/archers). It took literally 3x (on average) longer than how it was done without the interval needs.
Instead of 10 mins to kill a TT boss normally, it took a half an hour. They were braggers too "I can solo this -inserts instance here- NP". I actually had patience and just suggested with different approach when it comes to the tactic fail.
Now I tanked a TT1-2 with my LVL55 main barb with faction, and yes, that included a 5.0 demon BM with dedicides , he killed pretty fast, but he did not take aggro from my LVL55 barb that much, all I done was spam skills and he spammed. No one died, my HP seems high for a barb my LVL (though I do not think 6.7k HP is enough) you can never have enough HP.... But BM was using cyclone heel too, to get spark. A huge difference, the BM uses his skills properly, compared to the random ones.
Why would archer / barb would want to perma spark? That is what the real fast attackers are for.
DPS as barb / archer? Make an STR barb, add more DMG/DEX to your bow on your archer
P.S: Next time in TTs, if I see an archer or barb being serious with LVL70 or above fists, I will either kick them from squad if I have lead, or leave squad. Same goes for BMs/assassins only doing normal attacks.
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Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »i thought this thread was 50% Legit(That much because you made it b:laugh) until I read that(in red).
You don't have to believe me
You weren't in Wolf's_Cry ^^ or in TT with meI, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »I do not mind BMs wearing fists, they can use their skills and do more damage than clawchers and clawbarbs no matter how hard that clawcher or clawbarb try, unless one thing, more APS and refines, APS by maybe 1 attack more (rank chest archer armor) and at least +5 more than BMs using fists.
tweakz is right, 5.0 is not broken unless they are veno, BM and assassin.
Now for the randoms in TT squads I been with, was all of them fail runs? no. I had 70% of successful runs, all of them were using the correct weapons, not much of them were even LVL90 or more, that other 30% was fail runs. I was lucky I ran into few fail squads, yet still miffed about it kind of.
Was all the 30% of the physical classes relied on interval + genie? Yes, all of them (90% of barbs/archers). It took literally 3x (on average) longer than how it was done without the interval needs.
Instead of 10 mins to kill a TT boss normally, it took a half an hour. They were braggers too "I can solo this -inserts instance here- NP". I actually had patience and just suggested with different approach when it comes to the tactic fail.
Now I tanked a TT1-2 with my LVL55 main barb with faction, and yes, that included a 5.0 demon BM with dedicides , he killed pretty fast, but he did not take aggro from my LVL55 barb that much, all I done was spam skills and he spammed. No one died, my HP seems high for a barb my LVL (though I do not think 6.7k HP is enough) you can never have enough HP.... But BM was using cyclone heel too, to get spark. A huge difference, the BM uses his skills properly, compared to the random ones.
Why would archer / barb would want to perma spark? That is what the real fast attackers are for.
DPS as barb / archer? Make an STR barb, add more DMG/DEX to your bow on your archer
P.S: Next time in TTs, if I see an archer or barb being serious with LVL70 or above fists, I will either kick them from squad if I have lead, or leave squad. Same goes for BMs/assassins only doing normal attacks.
Im Sage and very much non -int (Although I got my TT99 Wrists yesterday bringing me to -0.2 b:victory) and I still use few skills on bosses. Rib Strike if it is needed and RDS to gain a bunch of chi.
Aside buffing up if I suspect I may steal aggro, your going to kick me for using my most effective DD? Pfft, I hate 5.0 but I wont deny that auto-attack basically **** all other DD. And nor should you.0 -
tweakz is right, 5.0 is not broken unless they are veno, BM and assassin.
Ok, I can see BM's and Sin's, but what does 5.0 have to do with Venos and making then "Broken"? I would see it being broken on Barbs than Venos.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Name a boss and place, I'll go hit it on my BM and you get on your barb. If you can manage to get aggro and keep it for longer than 5 seconds from my BM I will quit and give you all of my items and money and log-in information to my account. *nods*
Edit: To the post above me, he probably means venos that glitch fox form and use fists/claws like that. Their damage, if they're a HA build is good o:[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »i thought this thread was 50% Legit(That much because you made it b:laugh) until I read that(in red).
I hear you bro, I cracked up too hard, hope I didn`t disturb neighbours. Either 5aps wasnt using any weapon or... or... I really got no alternative scenario where that would be possible.
Now would I decide to comment anything on his "arguments". First of all, do the math. If you say aps don`t make bosses faster, you are just an idiot and any discussion with you would be simply pointless.
"I spammed skills and kept aggro from 5aps with lvl 52 barb". Now that is simply impossible unless the BM like I earlier said, didn`t wear weapon. My barb had more str than yours, by far, demon true form, axe mastery, flesh ream, etc. Pretty much anything you can want if you try to keep aggro with axes. He also had R8 weapon back then, +6 only but still several times better than anything your barb could have. I lost fighting for aggro with 2aps sage sin, r8 daggers sure, yet severly less dps than 5aps BM should dish out. Now you are saying you kept aggro on situation where DD should create a lot more dmg = more aggro and where you cant possibly come even close to the amount of aggro my barb could create back then and you kept aggro while my barb lost? You mind frapsing it next time cause I`d say that`s absolutely impossible. Btw, if there is lvl 100 BM and lvl 52 barb in squad, who the heck makes lowbie barb tank?
Now why would archer/barb want to use weapon that is simply broken? You cant tank w/o claws/fists at good squads `cause those good squads wont slowpoke trough dungeon just not to take aggro from barb. There are several reasons why 1 might restat barb/archer to claws and not reroll bm/sin, one being those 2 classes got their own adventages. Barbs got poison fang and demon version comes pretty close to demon fist mastery of BMs. barbs also got trueform, buffs, more hp with same gear. You wont be using skills(`cept spark) while dealing out dps/tanking with claws/fists, even if you are BM. I`ll correct myself, if you are BM with any brains worth mentioning, I`ll forget those amps of their owns as I see tanking BM rarely use em due need to change weapon. Archers got their bows, STA, etc. People who dont use aps are simply handicapping themselves compared to the ppl who use em, PvE wise and those got their use on PvP too. Somebody mught argue about hp but tell me, when same barb tanked something with vit build and low gear at 15k hp, now he got same 15k hp, gear is just more refined and better on all aspects, why couldn`t he still do it?
Ps. Autoattacking bad for DDs? Are you freaking kidding me? Should have noticed it earlier, my whole post will be in vain as you just confirmed you know absolutely nothing about dps.Trolling Sid since So Hot
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How can you possibly claim to judge the effectiveness of 5.0 by your experience at level 55 in TT1-2? 5.0 isn't even possible until level 99.
The game plays a lot different at 100+ when people have 5.0 and good gear. Also 5.0 archer can be very viable as I regularly hold aggro over +10 BMs and still have the survivability to tank Harpy.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »You don't have to believe me
You weren't in Wolf's_Cry ^^ or in TT with me
No I was not in your TT, but my barb is in Wolf's_Cry b:chuckle.0 -
Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »Name a boss and place, I'll go hit it on my BM and you get on your barb. If you can manage to get aggro and keep it for longer than 5 seconds from my BM I will quit and give you all of my items and money and log-in information to my account. *nods*
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Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »Now I tanked a TT1-2 with my LVL55 main barb with faction, and yes, that included a 5.0 demon BM with dedicides , he killed pretty fast, but he did not take aggro from my LVL55 barb that much,
I has a theory.........................
this translates to I ran in and reamed 2x then bm comes in cyclones, demon sparks and starts attacking just as drummer starts casting his lightning spell. by the time the spell is cast the bm has stolen aggro. drummer gets one hit on the bm and dies cuz the bm has killed him by then.
sooooo........this means yulky here has taked probably 2 normal hits and a magic hit and bm has taken 1 normal hit...........so nope yulk is right he had aggro the majority of the time. b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »I do not mind BMs wearing fists, they can use their skills and do more damage than clawchers and clawbarbs no matter how hard that clawcher or clawbarb try, unless one thing, more APS and refines, APS by maybe 1 attack more (rank chest archer armor) and at least +5 more than BMs using fists.
tweakz is right, 5.0 is not broken unless they are veno, BM and assassin.
Now for the randoms in TT squads I been with, was all of them fail runs? no. I had 70% of successful runs, all of them were using the correct weapons, not much of them were even LVL90 or more, that other 30% was fail runs. I was lucky I ran into few fail squads, yet still miffed about it kind of.
Was all the 30% of the physical classes relied on interval + genie? Yes, all of them (90% of barbs/archers). It took literally 3x (on average) longer than how it was done without the interval needs.
Instead of 10 mins to kill a TT boss normally, it took a half an hour. They were braggers too "I can solo this -inserts instance here- NP". I actually had patience and just suggested with different approach when it comes to the tactic fail.
Now I tanked a TT1-2 with my LVL55 main barb with faction, and yes, that included a 5.0 demon BM with dedicides , he killed pretty fast, but he did not take aggro from my LVL55 barb that much, all I done was spam skills and he spammed. No one died, my HP seems high for a barb my LVL (though I do not think 6.7k HP is enough) you can never have enough HP.... But BM was using cyclone heel too, to get spark. A huge difference, the BM uses his skills properly, compared to the random ones.
Why would archer / barb would want to perma spark? That is what the real fast attackers are for.
DPS as barb / archer? Make an STR barb, add more DMG/DEX to your bow on your archer
P.S: Next time in TTs, if I see an archer or barb being serious with LVL70 or above fists, I will either kick them from squad if I have lead, or leave squad. Same goes for BMs/assassins only doing normal attacks.
He wasn't 5.0 then.
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lvl 55 barb holding aggro from a interval bm?
simply impossible, absolutely impossible.
I'm a wizard, maybe the worst dps class there is, and with jones blessing I need to be careful about stealing aggro from a barb my lvl.
But for you to say that at 55 you can hold aggro from a 99+ bm better than a 9x barb can hold aggro from a 9x wiz?
I don't know if you say such stupid things because you actually believe them, or because you want the reaction.
Either way, I just let myself get trolled...again...b:cryb:surrender0 -
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Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »Name a boss and place, I'll go hit it on my BM and you get on your barb. If you can manage to get aggro and keep it for longer than 5 seconds from my BM I will quit and give you all of my items and money and log-in information to my account. *nods*
Edit: To the post above me, he probably means venos that glitch fox form and use fists/claws like that. Their damage, if they're a HA build is good o:
Sure, let me ask my faction members when we all are active. Mainly on weekends.WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »Ps. Autoattacking bad for DDs? Are you freaking kidding me? Should have noticed it earlier, my whole post will be in vain as you just confirmed you know absolutely nothing about dps.
Are you kidding me? Auto attacking casters are good? Auto attacking fist/claw archers and barbs are like BMs using fists without fist mastery good? Are you kidding me? K, Everyone should auto attack, even clerics! Good plan b:victoryAsterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »How can you possibly claim to judge the effectiveness of 5.0 by your experience at level 55 in TT1-2? 5.0 isn't even possible until level 99.
The game plays a lot different at 100+ when people have 5.0 and good gear. Also 5.0 archer can be very viable as I regularly hold aggro over +10 BMs and still have the survivability to tank Harpy.
This proves that you have no idea what you are talking about, you think I haven't squad with 99+ in TT? Even though I have shown screen shots? What next? Videoes? Archers with what HP? 5k? Serious? Besides, that same BM was LVL99. Come again and troll harder.
I am not saying archers can't tank, but they do not have the best tankability like venoes, barbs and BMs. Winged shell gets whacked away in 1 hit. Even worse on assassins, not even bloodpaint will help them stay alive. I kept BB on with a BOTH level 99 assasssin and LVL101 sin tanking wurlord in TT2-1, they still died UNDER my BB (on my cleric). Guess how much HP they have? Near 6k HP. It is a lot smarter to have barbs, BMs and venoes (if they can aggro) do the tanking since they are easier when they protect the other classes.I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »You need permission from your faction to flesh ream a boss?
Come on in a few hours and sure, I bring some people I know with me, oh yeah, even if you retire, I don't want your things b:byeI, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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Wait, what. Few hours? I'll be in bed. People? what for?
Get on now and we can go to the PQ boss, all you have to do is get aggro from me and hold it for 5 seconds, that's all.
Or are you just that stupid you need several people guiding you in game? O_O[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »Wait, what. Few hours? I'll be in bed. People? what for?
Get on now and we can go to the PQ boss, all you have to do is get aggro from me and hold it for 5 seconds, that's all.
Or are you just that stupid you need several people guiding you in game? O_O
Actually, waiting for someone I know IRL to get ready, so I go out for something.
4 people to open TT squad too, not have the time to wait for people.I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »*makes chicken sounds*
Lol, make chicken sounds all you want, can't go on PW yet unless you get 2 people.... How can I bleep out my char names ingame btw???I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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Ok Ja-rule wannabe, I will come on ingame then, chienten chronol TT1-1 squad mode.I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.
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