Some changes in this game still needs changing

Yulk_owns - Lost City · January 2011

Here you go WnBTank, more proof

squad wipe when archer took aggro from BM (using fists) after he demon spark, BM went down, then I went down on my archer. First one to die was LVL100+ -int archer, then the psy, then the BM died then me, barb escaped (a lot) then cleric died. We stayed there for almost an hour, so I switch to cleric and done BB. And this is TT2-1

Sucks not to be tank b:shutup

Ninnuam - Sanctuary · January 2011

Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »

Here you go WnBTank, more proof

squad wipe when archer took aggro from BM (using fists) after he demon spark, BM went down, then I went down on my archer. First one to die was LVL100+ -int archer, then the psy, then the BM died then me, barb escaped (a lot) then cleric died. We stayed there for almost an hour, so I switch to cleric and done BB. And this is TT2-1

Sucks not to be tank b:shutup

If what you say is true, the squad was simply fail on oh so many levels.

Barb tanks. Cleric heals. Archer steals aggro and dies. Barb regains aggro and continues tanking. If barb can invoke, cleric rezzes archer. If not, archer stays dead.

Simple really. From the sounds of it though, everyone in squad, and i do mean EVERYONE was just fail.

Tearle - Dreamweaver · January 2011

My bm has gold tt90 -int bracers and gold fc fists. I can tank 1-x and 2-x with less than 6k hp unbuffed. .-. Am I fail now too?

WnbTank - Archosaur · January 2011

Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »

Yeah, 5.0 toons are so powerful with maybe with +`12 weapons!! and I have went in 3-1 once with a few lvl101s, they still died. I forgot to screen. APS is useless if you don't even use a single skill other than that overated demon spark (or sage?).

You're a barb too, I can tank that with LVL40+ barb in TT1-1 and I had screen shot provided. Look for a LVL43 barb (now 55) tanking in TT1-1. 1-1 should be a breeze for LVL100+, not a challenge. So do not even bother mentioning you can solo/do 1-1 at LVL100.

I am 3.33aps, with deicides +5, I dont think any of my armor is over +4. I can solo every single TT till 3-x. You know, I did say I could do 1-1 w/o any armors on, put my claws and start going. Maybe put the cleric kitty married on BB so I wouldnt **** charm. Point being, any 10x toon should be able to do the same with armors on as I really dont have that much vit added on my build. Thing is, 10x toon dead in TT1-1/2-1 is pretty much always clerics fault simply cause the amount of failing to kill those toons there is simply enormous, any competent cleric can prevent it.

Actually tested, with only claws on(no armors, orns, rings, tome), my barb got 4k hp, unbuffed, should be compareable to lvl 100 sin that does actually wear armor. I said I can solo all TTs but 3-x, you start to argue like 1-1 was the main thing on that comment, lol.

I gotta wonder what sort squads you squad with... Some "Let`s prank the fool"? But beast can wipe pretty much everybody if they are bit sleepy `cept high hp toons. When beast goes into crazy nuts combo STA->purge->Curse->hard dmg, pretty much oneshots all under 15k hp and if he decides to keep doing that nuts aoe, may drop the rest too, assuming slow reflexes to hit something to live.

But really, no normal toons would survive that combo either, it`s absolutely irrelevant if aps dont live if the other build wouldn`t either. To put it simply, it`s irrelevant to say "You cant solo harpy" if you can`t do it either, arguing like not having ability to do it somehow proves the build fails as the other build would fail just as badly.

Seriously bro, you see 1 person fail with some build, does that mean build itself fails? Can I laber every "traditional" build barbs as fail when I see 1 failing? And really, I have seen more than 1 fail at doing simple stuff.

Ps. Yeah, archers can bow tank lotta stuff, just takes longer than aps which is why I myself really prefer aps tanking those things =/. Well this 1 archer tanks 3-1 beast with bow, permaspark with djin, I think she`s 5aps with fists and she got R8 bow +10, not really wonder grabs aggro over my unfinished build =/.

WnbTank - Archosaur · January 2011

Ninnuam - Sanctuary wrote: »

If what you say is true, the squad was simply fail on oh so many levels.

Barb tanks. Cleric heals. Archer steals aggro and dies. Barb regains aggro and continues tanking. If barb can invoke, cleric rezzes archer. If not, archer stays dead.

Simple really. From the sounds of it though, everyone in squad, and i do mean EVERYONE was just fail.

Yeah, you put it well, it`s not builds failing but ppl behind em, lol. But yulk, tell me what sort of SS you want and I go make one. 2-1 wurlord w/o armors might be hard, assuming I`m using my claws, cant cancel with em as no true form and tbh, axes are just too slowpoke for my taste + this was about survivability I guess =/. Well wurlord should be doable too w/o armors would I use hp buff =/.

Edit: It seems I cant go totally w/o armors, gotta wear some armors for being able to use my weps, I guess I can only use my bow w/o any other gear, lol. I`m soo depedant on addons, QQ.

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver · January 2011

....and i was thinking how nice this year is....

hey yulk, i put some changes in your changes so u can change while changingb:cute

btw teach me how to do solo fbs :b

Michael_Dark - Lost City · January 2011

Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Originally Posted by Yulk_fails

I recommend everyone to stop reading about thereb:chuckle.

+1

/yawn

Yulk_owns - Lost City · January 2011

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

I am 3.33aps, with deicides +5, I dont think any of my armor is over +4. I can solo every single TT till 3-x. You know, I did say I could do 1-1 w/o any armors on, put my claws and start going. Maybe put the cleric kitty married on BB so I wouldnt **** charm. Point being, any 10x toon should be able to do the same with armors on as I really dont have that much vit added on my build. Thing is, 10x toon dead in TT1-1/2-1 is pretty much always clerics fault simply cause the amount of failing to kill those toons there is simply enormous, any competent cleric can prevent it.

Actually tested, with only claws on(no armors, orns, rings, tome), my barb got 4k hp, unbuffed, should be compareable to lvl 100 sin that does actually wear armor. I said I can solo all TTs but 3-x, you start to argue like 1-1 was the main thing on that comment, lol.

I gotta wonder what sort squads you squad with... Some "Let`s prank the fool"? But beast can wipe pretty much everybody if they are bit sleepy `cept high hp toons. When beast goes into crazy nuts combo STA->purge->Curse->hard dmg, pretty much oneshots all under 15k hp and if he decides to keep doing that nuts aoe, may drop the rest too, assuming slow reflexes to hit something to live.

But really, no normal toons would survive that combo either, it`s absolutely irrelevant if aps dont live if the other build wouldn`t either. To put it simply, it`s irrelevant to say "You cant solo harpy" if you can`t do it either, arguing like not having ability to do it somehow proves the build fails as the other build would fail just as badly.

Seriously bro, you see 1 person fail with some build, does that mean build itself fails? Can I laber every "traditional" build barbs as fail when I see 1 failing? And really, I have seen more than 1 fail at doing simple stuff.

Ps. Yeah, archers can bow tank lotta stuff, just takes longer than aps which is why I myself really prefer aps tanking those things =/. Well this 1 archer tanks 3-1 beast with bow, permaspark with djin, I think she`s 5aps with fists and she got R8 bow +10, not really wonder grabs aggro over my unfinished build =/.

I get your idea if I see one person fail with "some" build, does not mean the build itself fail. But I squad with MANY. Thus making it a fail build for non-bms. You think I believe you can solo TTs up to 3-x? Maybe SOLO MODE with lots of buffs on. I can tank up to 3-x as archer for solo mode with 0 refines. I do not believe that, especially with that little and unbelievable HP with no armor, I thought barbs get more HP than that without VIT. This build is only viable for bms, +9 or above barbs/archers. I am tired of people who brag and not back their **** up. Come again, you can solo up to 3-x? Prove it with screen shots/vids. Infact, I will make a LVL1 char on your server then shoot the vid myself and I can witness your "pro". If you die, I have the video to show how stupid the build for barbs/archers are. You said you can solo 2-1, but you say you cannot solo wurlord without "some armors" XD!!

P.S. Roll a BM/Sin for APS b:bye

Yulk_owned - Lost City · January 2011

Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Originally Posted by Yulk_fails

I recommend everyone to stop reading about thereb:chuckle.

i recommend to close this threadb:laugh.

CandyCorn - Raging Tide · January 2011

-presses the invisible close thread button- it doesn't work >:l

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Most of the suggestions in the OP were actually decent for a change, even though we know none of those will happen. /cynic

However, the rebirth glitch isn't just limited to rebirth. It happens in every instance where you get killed and it ports you to another area (cube and warsong, for example), when you take so much damage it kills you several times over. I've seen people in Warsong BH teleported either back to Sanctuary or even into the cube. This obviously is a glitch they need to fix but after all this time I wouldn't get my hopes up.

All of those instances are easily manageable without dying several times over. Just gotta deal with what you have.

Sorry for the useful post -- back to your guys' trolling.

WnbTank - Archosaur · January 2011

Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »

I get your idea if I see one person fail with "some" build, does not mean the build itself fail. But I squad with MANY. Thus making it a fail build for non-bms. You think I believe you can solo TTs up to 3-x? Maybe SOLO MODE with lots of buffs on. I can tank up to 3-x as archer for solo mode with 0 refines. I do not believe that, especially with that little and unbelievable HP with no armor, I thought barbs get more HP than that without VIT. This build is only viable for bms, +9 or above barbs/archers. I am tired of people who brag and not back their **** up. Come again, you can solo up to 3-x? Prove it with screen shots/vids. Infact, I will make a LVL1 char on your server then shoot the vid myself and I can witness your "pro". If you die, I have the video to show how stupid the build for barbs/archers are. You said you can solo 2-1, but you say you cannot solo wurlord without "some armors" XD!!

P.S. Roll a BM/Sin for APS b:bye

"Awesome buffs"... Yeah, I want BP due the sole reason it heals a lot, acts like half a cleric. I want BM buff as it`s kewl and cleric buffs. Takes 2mins for me to buff myself from several comps, I got all those buffs avaible on my alts, BP actually being lvl 1 as the sin is lowbie. And I`m talking about squad mode, solo mode, I see no point discussing it as it`s pretty much wtf, it`s over and I see no drops. I can solo em, just **** charm, making it something I wouldn`t consider as "yay, I so want to do it".

Have I seen only 1 fail traditional build? Claws need higher refines, sure, yet your +9 are way off. My current gear, far from the best yet it works. Only boss I wonder if I can solo on 1-x/2-x is AE, I think I can solo him too, just not really worth the effort. I can do it, but it is no smart move to do on my part, costs are so much higher. If I want to "solo" TTs, I just bring wifey and make most bosses profitable, simple as that. Actually all my armor isn`t +5, some parts are, that`s some old what to aim for after restatting, yet I cant bother logging on PWI and seeing what parts are +5 and what +4, I should have 200 hp less than what the plan got on calculator.

Now when I said I needed armors, I can solo wurlord in 2-1 no prob, would I have wifey on bb and I myself w/o any armors, orns, etc. magic attack might 1shot me due low hp(no sht w/o gear). Rest of 2-1 should be enough for BB to heal me, even w/o any armors.

Now I could show you, yet unless I get sick leave on tomorrow morning at my doctor appointment, I cant really bother. Frankly 12h days at school from monday to friday, hard to motivate myself to do anything on PWI. You know, "I am tired of people who brag and not back their **** up", coming from you, I lolled too hard. You see my gears I linked, I can do pretty much everything PvE wise, only some WBs are too nasty for me and I`m yet to try new TT3-3. You ask others to provide proofs when you provide non yourself. Sure, totally braindead failing, you would have failed anyway, no matter the builds. I dont call those examples proof of anything but of you squading with ppl who got some serious issues upstairs.

Funny to see you talk about instances you`ve never seen, you dont need traditional build barb on anything but WBs when talking about PvE. I have finished several deltas with my claws, which I see as tougher for barbs hp than TTs, let alone some nirvana, which is just a joke.

Rolling sin/BM would be pointless, I just built over existing gear and would I be sin, I would tank most of the time, I rather save in repairs cause really, pretty much anybody can tank nirvana which I seem to run for money

. Now with aps squad we do runs in 20mins, older servers can do em quite a bit faster, when on other hand mage nirvana would take 1h+. You dont need those real high hp pools for anything as long as you know what your doing, after certain limit, all dps is good dps.

Joshcja - Sanctuary · January 2011

shutup yulk

Michael_Dark - Lost City · January 2011

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

*snip*

Awww, yulk has a buddy. How cute. b:chuckle

Mosz - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »

Here you go WnBTank, more proof

squad wipe when archer took aggro from BM (using fists) after he demon spark, BM went down, then I went down on my archer. First one to die was LVL100+ -int archer, then the psy, then the BM died then me, barb escaped (a lot) then cleric died. We stayed there for almost an hour, so I switch to cleric and done BB. And this is TT2-1

Sucks not to be tank b:shutup

<3k hp on archer lvl 80+? please delete, pro genie skills too. nice lack of apoth/pots on hotkeys

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary · January 2011

Whoa.. Yulk has a lvl 80+ character.
Yulk for GM!

CandyCorn - Raging Tide · January 2011

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Whoa.. Yulk has a lvl 80+ character.
Yulk for GM!

I don't understand how this yulk person is so popular is he a world chat spammer?

Renza - Raging Tide · January 2011

CandyCorn - Raging Tide wrote: »

I don't understand how this yulk person is so popular is he a world chat spammer?

He's a popular (not in a good way) forum troll as some like to say.

CandyCorn - Raging Tide · January 2011

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

He's a popular (not in a good way) forum troll as some like to say.

Funny I don't see him around the threads a lot.

Yulk_owns - Lost City · January 2011

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

Awww, yulk has a buddy. How cute. b:chuckle

Like you have any friends, no one even knows who you are ingame, it proves that you are only an whoracle char who spams on the forums everyday like nerdfailrage. People know me (not the Yulk chars) on my real chars. I have a higher IQ than you, kthxbai.

Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

<3k hp on archer lvl 80+? please delete, pro genie skills too. nice lack of apoth/pots on hotkeys

I get 3k HP (unbuffed) with 2 rings (HP), that was other one with with just the need of earthflame if I know squad for wurlord / other pulls. I have, enough HP to take AOEs. I forgot to farm apoth, all I used was MP pots and thats it. I was actually upgrading my melee chars seriously. They were alts. Genies in PVE? What kinda fail are you?

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

"Awesome buffs"... Yeah, I want BP due the sole reason it heals a lot, acts like half a cleric. I want BM buff as it`s kewl and cleric buffs. Takes 2mins for me to buff myself from several comps, I got all those buffs avaible on my alts, BP actually being lvl 1 as the sin is lowbie. And I`m talking about squad mode, solo mode, I see no point discussing it as it`s pretty much wtf, it`s over and I see no drops. I can solo em, just **** charm, making it something I wouldn`t consider as "yay, I so want to do it".

Have I seen only 1 fail traditional build? Claws need higher refines, sure, yet your +9 are way off. My current gear, far from the best yet it works. Only boss I wonder if I can solo on 1-x/2-x is AE, I think I can solo him too, just not really worth the effort. I can do it, but it is no smart move to do on my part, costs are so much higher. If I want to "solo" TTs, I just bring wifey and make most bosses profitable, simple as that. Actually all my armor isn`t +5, some parts are, that`s some old what to aim for after restatting, yet I cant bother logging on PWI and seeing what parts are +5 and what +4, I should have 200 hp less than what the plan got on calculator.

Now when I said I needed armors, I can solo wurlord in 2-1 no prob, would I have wifey on bb and I myself w/o any armors, orns, etc. magic attack might 1shot me due low hp(no sht w/o gear). Rest of 2-1 should be enough for BB to heal me, even w/o any armors.

Now I could show you, yet unless I get sick leave on tomorrow morning at my doctor appointment, I cant really bother. Frankly 12h days at school from monday to friday, hard to motivate myself to do anything on PWI. You know, "I am tired of people who brag and not back their **** up", coming from you, I lolled too hard. You see my gears I linked, I can do pretty much everything PvE wise, only some WBs are too nasty for me and I`m yet to try new TT3-3. You ask others to provide proofs when you provide non yourself. Sure, totally braindead failing, you would have failed anyway, no matter the builds. I dont call those examples proof of anything but of you squading with ppl who got some serious issues upstairs.

Funny to see you talk about instances you`ve never seen, you dont need traditional build barb on anything but WBs when talking about PvE. I have finished several deltas with my claws, which I see as tougher for barbs hp than TTs, let alone some nirvana, which is just a joke.

Rolling sin/BM would be pointless, I just built over existing gear and would I be sin, I would tank most of the time, I rather save in repairs cause really, pretty much anybody can tank nirvana which I seem to run for money . Now with aps squad we do runs in 20mins, older servers can do em quite a bit faster, when on other hand mage nirvana would take 1h+. You dont need those real high hp pools for anything as long as you know what your doing, after certain limit, all dps is good dps.

Want me to make a char and you let me witness? All I see is BS you speaking, (LOL rank ring)
With that kinda HP (without shards and refines), you aren't gonna live long. Decent barbs have 14k+HP (with no shards or refines or buffs) at your level IJS.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=70fe17df95a4128c

CandyCorn - Raging Tide · January 2011

Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »

Like you have any friends, no one even knows who you are ingame, it proves that you are only an whoracle char who spams on the forums everyday like nerdfailrage. People know me (not the Yulk chars) on my real chars. I have a higher IQ than you, kthxbai.

I get 3k HP (unbuffed) with 2 rings (HP), that was other one with with just the need of earthflame if I know squad for wurlord / other pulls. I have, enough HP to take AOEs. I forgot to farm apoth, all I used was MP pots and thats it. I was actually upgrading my melee chars seriously. They were alts. Genies in PVE? What kinda fail are you?

Want me to make a char and you let me witness? All I see is BS you speaking, (LOL rank ring)
With that kinda HP (without shards and refines), you aren't gonna live long. Decent barbs have 14k+HP at your level IJS.

ow...need a hug?

Dandelyn - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Suggestions 1-3 I have to agree with, 4-6 not so much:

1. The apothecary mix up is not a huge issue it would be an easy fix.

2. Rep gear is fairly meh, at least until you get into cs range (35k +). Though it's kind of late to do much about this now with the abundance of ultra cheap rep available.

3. Rebirth, yeah it's been like that since the dawn of time. Getting "1k'd" even happens in other insances. I ended up getting "cubed" from SoT once, what's up with that?!?
It's hard enough just finding people willing to do RB in the first place, then spending 3 hours getting to wave 9 and poof cleric's gone.. WTFGRRR!! This one gets my seal of approval, fix RB soon please.

4. If the game we still in the development stages yeah this might be viable, but not now.

5. Again, if you changed anything like that many people would be very upset. Better to implement something new rather than alter something that already works fine.

6. Not a horrible idea here, but again it's too late to make such a drastic change now.

Knownase - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Think mods or GMs should move this to the suggestion box so it can die.....rofl.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

Awww, yulk has a buddy. How cute. b:chuckle

Aww Michael Dark has.. no buddy. How cute.

Troll harder pl0x.

DaKillanator - Raging Tide · January 2011

you can't just troll the forums for months, switch to alt, then expect people to respect anything you post.

You shot yourself in the foot a loooong time ago, nothing you say will ever be taken seriosly, no matter how well thought out or valid it is.

But don't get me wrong, the idea behind this thread still sucks. The apoth stuff, okay w/e. But the rest? That is why you have a reputation for being an idiot/troll...

KuiXing - Harshlands · January 2011

I lol'd so hard at the taking away -chan, you kno how fcked wizzies would be without it? You kno how long our chan time is? Appearently not. stop trollin.

DaKillanator - Raging Tide · January 2011

KuiXing - Harshlands wrote: »

I lol'd so hard at the taking away -chan, you kno how fcked wizzies would be without it? You kno how long our chan time is? Appearently not. stop trollin.

actually tbh wiz don't really aim for too much -chan gear. I think around -33% chan is where most wizards draw the line between fast channeling compared to ****ty defense.
And yes, -33% is decent, but it doesn't make too much of a difference imo (i have like -27% chan and cant say I've noticed a big difference). Really what most wizards like is +crit %, because a sandstorm or heaven forbid, ultimate crit is usually more than enough to wipe anything.

/wizard lesson

@Yulk's rant towards Michael;
Tbh I wouldn't know anything about his ingame reputation, but I don't think he oracled to his level, his join date is waay too early for him to had oracled...
I may be wrong, but ijs usually early join date+high lvl =/= oracle noob

DaKillanator - Raging Tide · January 2011

yup just followed up on the "whoracle" accusation, and it doesn't seem to be true...
Check his Core Connect, lvl 40 bm in Feb, lvl 70 in April, and 90 in September.

With that information I would say it's not only safe to say he didn't "whoracle," but that he hasn't even used hypers...

GohRaL - Sanctuary · January 2011

Ooooooh **** !!!!!! b:spit

not you again, pls...stop it, just stop it for god sake !!!

When will you ever acknowledge that your threads make so much pages just cuz ppl come here to laught at you ???b:chuckle

You are the worst clown ive ever seen in so many fields.

And at your answer to michael: is it yet to be proven you have ANY IQ so stop trolling please, is not even funny now...b:bye

krelianmage · January 2011

Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Originally Posted by Yulk_fails

I recommend everyone to stop reading about thereb:chuckle.

Ill follow ur recomendation

Some changes in this game still needs changing

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