balancing APS for casters

ShadowX - Raging Tide
ShadowX - Raging Tide Posts: 32 Arc User
edited January 2011 in General Discussion
Why don't the devs just give casters the a lv100 spell that reduces a certain % hp?
Make the % hp reduced grow based on soulforce (give all caster classes a soulforce) so refines are still needed and encourage cashshopping.

Of course, some calculations would need to be done to find a good % and possibly cap the max hp such a spell would reduce.

Also, the spell should give 0 chi (like wizard's undine strike) or even cost some chi. That way, it won't be very practical in pvp.

The mechanics for % hp spells is already in the game (that fire lightning spell as seen in FC phoenix and holeen, last boss in RB delta, and Monday's Tiger event).
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    First thing its very unlikely it will happen like most ideas in this game and also why only at 100?

    What about the people at lower lvls getting killed by 5aps people?

    Second thing, it will help casters in PvP but then Barbs will QQ about it being unfair for them to kill casters, so...... it might not work well unless Barbs get a skill that balances them out too.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Another thread.....


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  • ShadowX - Raging Tide
    ShadowX - Raging Tide Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I chose lv100 because you don't really get access to -interval gear till TT99 and nirvana pants at 100.

    Also, it won't really affect pvp because the % I'm thinking about will be in the single digits, making it better just to use a regular damage spell. (possibly it can counter barb invoke but the damage will still be too small to be used effectively).

    It would be 0.5%-5% depending on cast and channeling time and other stuff but I don't know the dps of a +12 5 APS on a ? boss and I won't bother to log in the game to find out.
    I'll leave that to people who still care about the game.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    It's called Sage Soul Degen. Archers have that debuff as well, it's also a genie skill.

    Also, Nirvana bosses aren't affected by the hp reduce debuff.

    What do you mean it'd be unpractical for PvP? You would one shot people MUCH easier that way.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    OP explain to me why you have to be balanced with APS?
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  • ShadowX - Raging Tide
    ShadowX - Raging Tide Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's called Sage Soul Degen. Archers have that debuff as well, it's also a genie skill.

    Also, Nirvana bosses aren't affected by the hp reduce debuff.

    What do you mean it'd be unpractical for PvP? You would one shot people MUCH easier that way.

    If you actually read my post and comprehended it, you would have realized I am not talking about reducing max hp anywhere in the post. I even gave specific examples of what I'm referring to.

    I'm referring to the spell that removes a % of your hp which is like an attack, by percentage based. The tiger on monday's event reduces your hp by 20% and both the FC boss Holeen and last delta boss reduces your hp by 50%.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Casters needs to be nerfed in pvp.

    /discuss
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Casters needs to be nerfed in pvp.

    /discuss

    I agree, I got hit for 48k by a rank 8 wiz last TW NERF THEM!
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
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    Casters have no right to QQ, 32k hit is way too OP.
  • _Spot_ - Lost City
    _Spot_ - Lost City Posts: 318 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Im a one shot to any casters rank 8 wep QQQQQQQQQQQQ

    Btw boogie you were right max aps with bow is 1,44 dps demon sparked
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    _Spot_ - Lost City wrote: »
    Im a one shot to any casters rank 8 wep QQQQQQQQQQQQ

    Btw boogie you were right max aps with bow is 1,44 dps demon sparked

    Wrong threadc? b:chuckle
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I agree, I got hit for 48k by a rank 8 wiz last TW NERF THEM!

    I've seen 12+ endgame chars drop just from a wiz ulti in TW.

    WE NEED NERF!

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