With Genesis comes a Frost nerf?

Valrain - Archosaur

So I heard a rumor that Frost is reverting to a place to earn gear (like it used to be a long, long time ago) rather than a place to earn experience with Genesis. Can anyone confirm this?

If it's true, how in the world are we supposed to get our Mystics / Seekers to 100 in the first week? b:chuckle

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

Oracles, yo. b:chuckle

...If that happens, I finally have a reason not to level fast. Then again, none of the people who have played CN version have said anything about that so I doubt that it's actually coming. Just another rumor.

Shulkie - Dreamweaver

I think you can safely ignore any thread that begins "So I heard a rumor.."

Personally I prefer threads that say "I found this news post <link> on the chinese website supported by player testimonials"

ArchSaber - Sanctuary

1. Oracles are for noobs Kup.

2. If you got to 100 in a week, that would mean you will have about 100 grand hours of exhaustion time.

3. There would be no point of hyper stones then since AoE grinding outside of OVS sucks.

prof

frost nerf? I assume nobody in pwi has done the original frost. the previous version would likely be far too difficult, as pwi players are pampered beyond belief.

pw-cn's cap is 120, why so slow pwi?

threepointone

prof wrote: »

frost nerf? I assume nobody in pwi has done the original frost. the previous version would likely be far too difficult, as pwi players are pampered beyond belief.

pw-cn's cap is 120, why so slow pwi?

I have a bajillion FC mats in my alt's bank, about enough to make 1/2 a weapon and piece of armor.

Bryanshrimp - Lost City

i got a laugh at nobody in pwi has done the original frost. OH contrare my dear friend there are many of us around that have.

Kehrendorh - Archosaur

prof wrote: »

frost nerf? I assume nobody in pwi has done the original frost. the previous version would likely be far too difficult, as pwi players are pampered beyond belief.

pw-cn's cap is 120, why so slow pwi?

I was among the few on Sanctuary who farmed Frost on my cleric. There wasnt much of a demand at the time for Frost materials (no one really even had 99 gear then)...

People did frost. It just wasnt...uh...a staple.

I would warmly welcome a frost revert. BUT it isnt going to happen.

Daizengar - Sanctuary

Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »

I was among the few on Sanctuary who farmed Frost on my cleric. There wasnt much of a demand at the time for Frost materials (no one really even had 99 gear then)...

People did frost. It just wasnt...uh...a staple.

I would warmly welcome a frost revert. BUT it isnt going to happen.

It'd be nice if there was an EXP mode and a Drop mode for it

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

I heard a rumor that a lvl 100 wizard from the Archosaur server is spreading rumors without any substance behind them.

Legit source yo

Thread_troll - Sanctuary

Doubt it. PWI needs people to buy oracles... but, if so, let me level my archer to 100 first b:victory

Oneji - Heavens Tear

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

I heard a rumor that a lvl 100 wizard from the Archosaur server is spreading rumors without any substance behind them.

Legit source yo

I can confirm thishttp://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11506232b:thanks.

prof

threepointone wrote: »

I have a bajillion FC mats in my alt's bank, about enough to make 1/2 a weapon and piece of armor.

if you've ever been inside the dungeon, you'd know very well why I don't believe you.

frost, the old frost, is bigger than any dungeon in the game. it has the most complicated, as well as unique, bosses and mobs. they all do a lot of damage, 90% of them stun, 50% of them seal, 100% of them paralyze, and there is a LOT of them. everywhere.

besides that, you joined after it was replaced. b:bye

Eoria - Harshlands

Old Frost was such a pain in the ***. I only ever managed to do the first boss.

Also, I highly doubt this rumor is true.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »

I would warmly welcome a frost revert. BUT it isnt going to happen.

Agreed. Then it would actually be fun and challenging again.

Toxie - Dreamweaver

prof wrote: »

if you've ever been inside the dungeon, you'd know very well why I don't believe you.

frost, the old frost, is bigger than any dungeon in the game. it has the most complicated, as well as unique, bosses and mobs. they all do a lot of damage, 90% of them stun, 50% of them seal, 100% of them paralyze, and there is a LOT of them. everywhere.

besides that, you joined after it was replaced. b:bye

Haha don't go off forum join dates. MANY of us have done the original frost. Just cause you failed doesn't mean we all did. b:bye

prof

I was doing frost before pwi opened, newgen. Just because you killed the first boss does not mean you've done frost. Kill them all.

Roseary - Sanctuary

Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I can confirm thishttp://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11506232b:thanks.

This is how it should be done.

_Spot_ - Lost City

Bryanshrimp - Lost City wrote: »

i got a laugh at nobody in pwi has done the original frost. OH contrare my dear friend there are many of us around that have.

Can i have your autograph pls??? b:bye

Silest - Sanctuary

prof wrote: »

pw-cn's cap is 120, why so slow pwi?

yet YOU and all you other CN lovers are PLAYING THIS version...

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

I did Old Frost and it was lousy. Too many stupid mats and the curvades / fragments were a pain to farm. It was unpopular because the gear wasn't worth the annoyance. Good riddance.

NightRage - Raging Tide

Bryanshrimp - Lost City wrote: »

i got a laugh at nobody in pwi has done the original frost. OH contrare my dear friend there are many of us around that have.

Most of us have quit though.

Born_Free - Harshlands

Bryanshrimp - Lost City wrote: »

i got a laugh at nobody in pwi has done the original frost. OH contrare my dear friend there are many of us around that have.

Nobody does frost.....



.....on the newer servers.

The "New generation" players don't care about Frost, they've been spoonfed so many other instances nowadays that if one of them went into old school Frost they'd **** themselves.

Psssh, why should they? After all, we haz Nirvana! All your mats are belong to us! ROAR!

Kehrendorh - Archosaur

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I did Old Frost and it was lousy. Too many stupid mats and the curvades / fragments were a pain to farm. It was unpopular because the gear wasn't worth the annoyance. Good riddance.

It actually wasnt all too difficult at all. It just took skill, patience. And tbh, the gear was worth it around the time it was still around.

A few tweaks and it wouldve been a huge success. I find it ironic they continue to keep the forges in the frost lobby, it continues to show the pure laziness of the Devs. The main issues were glitched quests and bosses. Otherwise, it was just a purely challenging instance. Now....its a joke.

FallinShadow - Heavens Tear

I remember on my Cleric when I did the original Frost, MY GOD it was hard! My fingers were damaged afterwards and I retired from Cleric and became a Veno b:shocked

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

FC gear is outdated/obsolete.


Leveling is easy, even without hyper grinding in FC a level 90 with access to OVS could get probably 15-20% a day in a few minutes there.

Getting to 95-99 is pretty fast, and at that point why would you bother farming FC gear when you can get lunar/TT99 gears


If FC gear was endgame then sure I could see this being cool, but FC gear isn't that great.

Quilue - Sanctuary

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Why farm Frost when Lunar weps are like ~30m?
I found it kind of funny when I saw Lunar weps only about 10-20m more expensive than Frost weps in AH. Even saw a +5 Bow for 50m. Apparently the price of Frost weps have not really changed

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

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Why farm Frost when Lunar weps are like ~30m?
I found it kind of funny when I saw Lunar weps only about 10-20m more expensive than Frost weps in AH. Even saw a +5 Bow for 50m. Apparently the price of Frost weps have not really changed

Two reasons:

1. Impatience of waiting from level 85 to 95 for a decent weapon.

2. FF weapon more seen as an intermediary between near endgame wep and endgame wep, combined with lunar weapon not seen anymore (cept deicide claws) as endgame weapon, and too costly as an intermediary (FCSF ~15-18m on HT) when levels come as cake with 5 hypers @ ~400k so maybe use FF wep til Rank 8/9 or Nirvana.

Vindrael - Lost City

DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »

I heard a rumor that a lvl 100 wizard from the Archosaur server is spreading rumors without any substance behind them.

Legit source yo

LOL, sorry. That was the point of my post. I wanted to see if anybody could confirm what I had heard from somebody who participated in the Genesis closed beta.

Unfortunately, PWE is releasing basically zero information on anything.

1. Will TW pay come back with the expansion? Who knows...
2. Will new gear be available? Good question.
3. Can Seekers see sins in stealth? Dunno.
4. How many factions will be able to have a guild base? Hmmm...
5. Why were wizard skills nerfed to give only 10 chi per cast? Excellent question...
6. Where are the *real* patch notes for several of the patches that had obvious extras (more was done to the game than "minor localization changes").

PWE sucks extraordinarily bad (worse than any company I have ever seen in my entire life) at answering questions, supporting players, and offering even the most basic information on anything they do. So the players are left to guess and ponder, and hope that the devs are not completely and totally insane, contrary to the evidence we see currently. b:chuckle

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I did Old Frost and it was lousy. Too many stupid mats and the curvades / fragments were a pain to farm. It was unpopular because the gear wasn't worth the annoyance. Good riddance.

You're remembering it badly. I can't blame you.

Imagine running old frost with your current gear. I'd call that fun and challenging.

Ajani - Harshlands

I only see one diference between the before and after fc. Before it has boring. Now its boring and usefull. Makes the game easy and everyone get to 100 to use +2 8jun so they pew pew mobs faster in all 7 PvE servers.