Are Wizards Worth Makeing? Please Read..

UnBlissful - Harshlands

Helloooooo!~ b:cute

My wizard is currently level 36, and i was just wondering are they any good? I cant really judge since im still a lowbie at the moment, but its fun right now..Are they any good in pvp? I know there really squishy but so is alot of the AA magic characters. So are wizard's any good? Are they good in pvp? Somone told me they only time there good is at end-game. And they die to easy in pvp :[. Are they a fail class? Am i wasteing my time and should just make a diffrent character? Ty for reading i hope u reply b:thanks

prof

all classes die, there's no exception. the amount of times you die depends on how bad you are and how far you're willing to go with refining your gear. that's the exact same story for every class.

btw, we rock in pvp.

who started this mainstream that mages seem to do nothing but die? and all other classes are ****ing invincible? it takes me weeks, if not a pretty good month to go through a stack of angels.

toliman

Every game has it's own features.

Perfect world has following of them:
1. Static world (with static map).
2. Nonlinear rising dependence of expirience (and corresponding time) to achieve it from character's level.
3. Nonlinear rising dependence of equipment's/skills' price per level to buy them.
4. Reducing dependence of quantity of quests per level.
5. Unequal classes for player.

You enjoy playing this game when you get new levels, skills, equipment, when you do quests, but for each new level you get less and less of them.

This is multiplayer game, so you (Wizard) have big dependence from other players.
If your character weak, you will get less chance to achieve high level or get good equipment.

You can check if one class better than another using top list for each class or for each server.


Look at wizards (few years old class).

They are not so common as Assassins (class, that had been introduced at 2010) or Blademasters.


This is because of:

- Wizards have low dps (damage per second) and - sometimes - low dph (damage per hit) at high levels in comparison with other DDs with same equipment (more level, more difference).
- They (wizards - magical tanks) are almost equal to barbarians (melee tanks) but they have not their high life and agro skills.
- Wizards can't tank solo instances of same level, so they are not so profitable as solo-able classes.


Edit:

Here statistical data using common top list (among top 210 players):

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Class____Quantity___Comment

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Psychic_______2____New non - solo- able magic class, middle dps
Wizard______16 ___Old magic class, low dps
Venomancer__23___Soloable at low and middle levels class
Archer_______27___DD with high dps
Barbarian____27___Melee tank, able to attack with high dps
Cleric________36__Common healer, necessary for all squad instances
Assassin______37__Soloable at high levels class, able to attack with high dps
Blademaster___42__Profitable at high levels class, able to attack with high dps

_Hysteria_ - Dreamweaver

yes, wizards are good, after lvl 90, until then we still can be, just depends on the person playing the wiz, but for the most part yeah ur freinds right, wizzies are in it for endgame.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

_Hysteria_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

yes, wizards are good, after lvl 90, until then we still can be, just depends on the person playing the wiz, but for the most part yeah ur freinds right, wizzies are in it for endgame.

I would say. Play a wizard can be fun at the end, BUT you cannot expect, that you will own another classes in PvP. In PvP you will be more death than alive. That's reality. In this version of PW it's almost impossible to win with similar geared another classes. It will be even worse with new classes coming. I have no doubt about it.

prof

mumintroll, we all are very aware of how terrible you are. stop flaunting it around as if it's the same for the rest of us. back to your pserver, wench.

Galox - Heavens Tear

lol toliman, that list don't show the "best classes", it shows how many credit cards each player has.

Look at the "Kills" column in the PvP rankings. It's a Typo. It's real name should be "$ spent in cashshop".

Oooh, Elayne hit 104. Race to 105 :O

And ooh, I find it strange that the Highest Levels are on PvP servers..

_Hysteria_ - Dreamweaver

prof wrote: »

mumintroll, we all are very aware of how terrible you are. stop flaunting it around as if it's the same for the rest of us. back to your pserver, wench.

i lold pretty hard at that quote right there xD, and i agree wizzies arent great at pvp pre 90, but if the person playing it has some skill and is clever they can hold their own, im not saying your going to pwn the world, no. after 90 you should be able to beat people evenly geared as you, not everytime but alot, if your not, your doing something wrong. besides there are all types of pvp, some people may fare better in those aspects then others, find your strentgh and use it, find your weakness and try to avoid it, pretty cliche but its fact.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

_Hysteria_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i lold pretty hard at that quote right there xD, and i agree wizzies arent great at pvp pre 90, but if the person playing it has some skill and is clever they can hold their own, im not saying your going to pwn the world, no. after 90 you should be able to beat people evenly geared as you, not everytime but alot, if your not, your doing something wrong. besides there are all types of pvp, some people may fare better in those aspects then others, find your strentgh and use it, find your weakness and try to avoid it, pretty cliche but its fact.

I will wait till you be lv. 100 then you will see yourself. And don't listen to prof. He is noob he even don't play PWI. If he would play he would have his avatar. He NEVER play PWI but he think he is the smartest.

_Hysteria_ - Dreamweaver

im well aware of endgame pvp this isnt my 1st wizzy just my latest, as for the flame war im not gonna get involved thats between you and prof <.<, and i still stand by my orginal post, if ur endgame wizzy is geared at least semi well and u got semi skil, ppl not outgearing you shudnt be hard, and even ifthey are sometimes u might be able to use cleverness, im not saying your going to win every time or even 3/4 of the time but 50/50 60/40 is obtainable unless your really bad.

prof

you would do well to listen to me, but I wont demand it. you would do very well to not listening to mumin, he's simply an advocate for how bad he thinks mages are through his experience, but he continues to play one. useless reject.

mimin, you are correct, to an extent. I don't play pwi, currently. I have several characters in pwi that I've bothered to level - a 101 cleric, and a 101 wr. my mg is on utopia, the malaysian host of pw.

I've been on pwi since the day it opened. I don't use my avatar because I like my name the way it appears without one. prof. I don't capitalize my username, but when you use an avatar, it forces it. got it? I've said it before. get over it.

Shulkie - Dreamweaver

well back in the dim and distant past I made a wizzie and really didnt like him - he was a squishy glass cannon. I ended up deleting him in his 30s or 40s.

time rolls on and after raising most of the other classes to mid level (50 - 80 at the time) I created a new wiz. maybe it was because I had played for longer and had played so many other classes but this time around the wiz made sense for me.

he may be a glass cannon, but the cannon is a big one. learning to kite was a big step early on for me with the wiz. played well the wiz can still be a devastating damage dealer - aps classes might be able to match damage (simply by hitting hard and often) but for single hit nukes the wiz was king for a long long time. I still think it stacks up well against the psychic, only losing out at times because psychic can cast quicker most of the time.

for me, in FC, or other situations where zhenning mobs is the most efficient way to kill them, wizzies are still needed. not everyone wants or aspires to be in APS squads. these people will love having wizzies in their squad.

_Vivio_ - Sanctuary

My early lvls as a wizard only thing I can say really bugged me was magic resistant mobs but after undine strike it wasn't so bad anymore. Wizards are loads of fun in pvp and tw but i'd have to say make sure you can find ways to fund your wizard with hp charms, mp food, refines, gear, etc. You don't have to be too epic but you know just make sure you build the char well enough so you don't fall over if someone sneezes at you.

I've never found it hard to join a top no.1-5 guild as a wizard since most guilds i've run with actually want a relatively high number of wizards for defensive measures especially guilds with more then 3 lands who can be triple attacked. I made my wizard specifically because I wanted to participate in TW by working with my teammates and killing groups of people. PK is fine just make sure you have a relatively high lvl sin with you lol so he can find the other sins trying to kill you.

XxXScarXxx - Heavens Tear

Wizards are pretty good imo. I love playing as one and haven't gotten bored since I started it. Wizards aren't so bad in pvp if you do it right and ur lucky, although, it gets a lot easier once you're a higher lvl. They are pretty squishy, but that's fine because eventually you can kill most monsters before they know what's going on. I've heard that they are good at end-game, but since I haven't experienced it yet I can't say.
You can try other classes if you want, but the main reason I play as a wizzy is because of how fun it is to me. b:victory

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

XxXScarXxx - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wizards are pretty good imo. I love playing as one and haven't gotten bored since I started it. Wizards aren't so bad in pvp if you do it right and ur lucky, although, it gets a lot easier once you're a higher lvl. They are pretty squishy, but that's fine because eventually you can kill most monsters before they know what's going on. I've heard that they are good at end-game, but since I haven't experienced it yet I can't say.
You can try other classes if you want, but the main reason I play as a wizzy is because of how fun it is to me. b:victory

Sure wizards are very good in PvP, BUT not in PWI. You will experience it yourself later. I told this in another topic. Just play you'll see.

prof

mages are good everywhere, you're just slightly less terrible on a private server because you hide behind a full +12 set.

_Hysteria_ - Dreamweaver

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Sure wizards are very good in PvP, BUT not in PWI. You will experience it yourself later. I told this in another topic. Just play you'll see.

you have to be the biggest ****ing **** to ever post on forums, seriously just because you suck *** and had to run to a private server doesnt mean wizards sucks, how much more can one person QQ, get the **** over it

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

_Hysteria_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

you have to be the biggest ****ing **** to ever post on forums, seriously just because you suck *** and had to run to a private server doesnt mean wizards sucks, how much more can one person QQ, get the **** over it

Agreed. I have a 100 wizard, and I constantly am seeing wizards, while somewhat less useful than APS classes, coming out of Nirvana. Obviously for certain things they are not the preferred class but they are by no means "dead" nor are they useless. There had been a fairly large downtrend of wizards but the rep sale changed that significantly. Mumintroll obviously can't stand PWI so does everything he can do to QQtroll the forums to dissuade people from playing wizards.

toliman

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Agreed. I have a 100 wizard, and I constantly am seeing wizards, while somewhat less useful than APS classes, coming out of Nirvana. Obviously for certain things they are not the preferred class but they are by no means "dead" nor are they useless...

Amour - Lost City wrote: »

... Nowadays, however, I can probably agree with what you're saying. The game has evolved into such a state that farming (unless you're 5.0) is near impossible, and even I have to use a 5.0 char to get anything done. Sad day when a +0 g13 weapon outdoes a +12 g15.

Wizard can kill mobs using AOE skills. But number of places where Wizard can use AOE skills to farm is limited and profit from it is less than profit from solo TT and Nirvana 5.0 char runs.

Situation is very unstable. You can't predict, what will be in the future.

New classes and new events can change everything during one day.

Pearlwood - Lost City

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Agreed. I have a 100 wizard, and I constantly am seeing wizards, while somewhat less useful than APS classes, coming out of Nirvana. Obviously for certain things they are not the preferred class but they are by no means "dead" nor are they useless. There had been a fairly large downtrend of wizards but the rep sale changed that significantly. Mumintroll obviously can't stand PWI so does everything he can do to QQtroll the forums to dissuade people from playing wizards.

Well I think we're useful. I one pulled the big room in Frost today, after our barb's pc crashed and we were all on hypers. Wizards can do a whole lot, real good.