Can you Stun Lock Like a Boss?

XCableX - Archosaur

I was teaching a Rank 9 Blademaster how to Stun Lock, like a boss.

I decided to Fraps it to just put on youtube or some ****. And yes, that's what I usually do when stun locking, like a boss. Don't judge me. b:surrender

Yes, I messed up, like a boss. b:cry

And I used 2 macros to demonstrate it, I usually don't use a macro in duels or pk cause...yeah. I spam press that ****, like a boss. b:victory


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRRiqjk0ty4


Enjoy.

Drake Bash->Fissure->Highland Cleave->Roar->Drake Sweep->Fan of Flames->Drake's Ray->Smack->Drake Bash->Fissure->Highland Cleave->Roar->Drake Sweep->Fan of Flames->Drake's Ray->Occult Ice->Fissure->Highland Cleave->Drake Bash->Drake Sweep->Fan of Flames->Drake's Ray->Roar->Fissure->Highland Cleave->Occult Ice->Drake Sweep->Fan of Flames->Drake's Ray...

Yeah... I think you run out of chi right there.

VlLKASS - Sanctuary

Where the hell is that? Moonshade? I've never seen mobs like that one.

prof

I assume you've never done a quest? ever? that's 'Cromagnon Village', or nightstalker is what I call it. don't cash shop to 101 if you don't even know the game you're playing.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

my stunlock...fill space between stuns with autoattacking

cyclone/demon DBB> CC+bash> roar+cycloneCC> ice>CC+bash> roar+CC> bolt>smack> bash+CC> roar+CC> ice >bash+CC >roar+CC> smack>bash+CC>roar+CC>bolshi+ blade

if blade works rinse repeate if not pop demon MR if that fails..your under antistun just go again anyways

but tbh i'm to lazy to do that most of the time if its not dead after the fist 20 seconds i pop a attack+item or geni skill or just use HF or just say to hell with it they're not dieing

but hey if i want to and i dont miss bash and they dont pop an antistun and i dont lag you stay there i run out of chi (does not happen woo fists)

Okeano - Harshlands

XCableX - Archosaur wrote: »

Drake Bash->Fissure->Highland Cleave->Roar->Drake Sweep->Fan of Flames->Drake's Ray->Smack->Drake Bash->Fissure->Highland Cleave->Roar->Drake Sweep->Fan of Flames->Drake's Ray->Occult Ice->Fissure->Highland Cleave->Drake Bash->Drake Sweep->Fan of Flames->Drake's Ray->Roar->Fissure->Highland Cleave->Occult Ice->Drake Sweep->Fan of Flames->Drake's Ray...

It's just Warmachine's stun combo with Smack and Ice in place of Aeolian. Anyone that knows how to read should know.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

It's just Warmachine's stun combo with Smack and Ice in place of Aeolian. Anyone that knows how to read should know.

*points to the 100+ whats the build threads"

bm forum is getting really dull these days T.T...quick sage demon debate between yulk and the other general discussion trolls/"specials" debating the OPness of demon stream strike

Devoted - Lost City

Why are you using combos to stun lock? Honestly, you are terrible if you rely on other skills to time your stuns.

If you are unable to figure out which stun to use and when on the fly you haven't been playing a blademaster long enough or really haven't stunned enough. Relying on a pre-planned stun combo is noobish at best. What happens when something unexpected happens? In pvp? No wai. Here's some scenarios you could be faced with when stunlocking:

- I get stunned by another person and my skill timing is all off.
- It's 1v1 and my opponent uses immune and stuns me throwing off my skill timing.
- I'm not terrible at pvp and I use fists so I have no skill timing.
- Opponent uses expel, that's physical immune, I can still use occult ice and cancel cast everything/something while I wait.
- Opponent insta-removes stun.
- Opponent is a mage, to be safe overlap stun and occult.
- Opponent is melee, save genie fuel and use stuns first.
- Lots of stuns on CD, use paralyze on kiting class. Should I seal?
---- If mage yes
---- If sage veno yes
---- If cleric yes unless sleep/plume barrier are on cd.
---- If archer no unless they start casting wings of grace then interrupt.
---- If psychic? Dunno really, haven't spent enough time since tideborn, psychic seems OP so hit buttons.

Just to name a few I can quickly think of. How are you going to adapt to these situations? Theorycrafting a stunlock combo is great if you are fighting mobs.

Try and get a feel for the stuns and their durations/casting time. This is really only acquired from 'practice' but you should have picked this up as common knowledge if the game required you to actually play it. New BMs should spend some time just trying to stunlock mobs. A good trick when beginning is to note where the stun cooldown animation is when the effect runs out. Level 10 roar runs out about when its animation is at the 5 o' clock point. Use these instead of skill timings for now please.

Once you actively pvp knowing what stuns are on CD and when the next one is up becomes pretty much second nature. Having the skills bars near the stun icon (*ahem* skill bar haters) also helps if you get side tracked and really allows you to focus on what your role of BM is: immobilizing a target for more DDs (or yourself 1v1).

If you want to be good at pvp I recommend people try and experience the game outside the billing page and stun stuff. A blademaster is the only class I truly enjoy pvp with as we actually have to use a bit of skill in this game. You are going to be terrible at pvp with a bm if you don't actually play the class enough. Most other classes you can get away with a bit of keyboard smashing but a blademaster(especially with +30 atk and rank8) has very little room for error now.


Edit: I want to add that having a plan going into a fight is great but never plan which stun you are using when. If you try to memorize an order of stuns you will be pre-occupied when something unexpected happens. Darn pvp and its inconsistencies. It's much better to have a general style every fight you have but it's more about adapting to what your opponent is doing. Sadly pvp now a days is basically 1 shot or get 1 shot so most fights are an immune fest and who ever has the least pots loses .

XCableX - Archosaur

Devoted - Lost City wrote: »

Why are you using combos to stun lock? Honestly, you are terrible if you rely on other skills to time your stuns.

If you are unable to figure out which stun to use and when on the fly you haven't been playing a blademaster long enough or really haven't stunned enough. Relying on a pre-planned stun combo is noobish at best. What happens when something unexpected happens? In pvp? No wai. Here's some scenarios you could be faced with when stunlocking:

- I get stunned by another person and my skill timing is all off.
- It's 1v1 and my opponent uses immune and stuns me throwing off my skill timing.
- I'm not terrible at pvp and I use fists so I have no skill timing.
- Opponent uses expel, that's physical immune, I can still use occult ice and cancel cast everything/something while I wait.
- Opponent insta-removes stun.
- Opponent is a mage, to be safe overlap stun and occult.
- Opponent is melee, save genie fuel and use stuns first.
- Lots of stuns on CD, use paralyze on kiting class. Should I seal?
---- If mage yes
---- If sage veno yes
---- If cleric yes unless sleep/plume barrier are on cd.
---- If archer no unless they start casting wings of grace then interrupt.
---- If psychic? Dunno really, haven't spent enough time since tideborn, psychic seems OP so hit buttons.

Just to name a few I can quickly think of. How are you going to adapt to these situations? Theorycrafting a stunlock combo is great if you are fighting mobs.

Try and get a feel for the stuns and their durations/casting time. This is really only acquired from 'practice' but you should have picked this up as common knowledge if the game required you to actually play it. New BMs should spend some time just trying to stunlock mobs. A good trick when beginning is to note where the stun cooldown animation is when the effect runs out. Level 10 roar runs out about when its animation is at the 5 o' clock point. Use these instead of skill timings for now please.

Once you actively pvp knowing what stuns are on CD and when the next one is up becomes pretty much second nature. Having the skills bars near the stun icon (*ahem* skill bar haters) also helps if you get side tracked and really allows you to focus on what your role of BM is: immobilizing a target for more DDs (or yourself 1v1).

If you want to be good at pvp I recommend people try and experience the game outside the billing page and stun stuff. A blademaster is the only class I truly enjoy pvp with as we actually have to use a bit of skill in this game. You are going to be terrible at pvp with a bm if you don't actually play the class enough. Most other classes you can get away with a bit of keyboard smashing but a blademaster(especially with +30 atk and rank8) has very little room for error now.


Edit: I want to add that having a plan going into a fight is great but never plan which stun you are using when. If you try to memorize an order of stuns you will be pre-occupied when something unexpected happens. Darn pvp and its inconsistencies. It's much better to have a general style every fight you have but it's more about adapting to what your opponent is doing. Sadly pvp now a days is basically 1 shot or get 1 shot so most fights are an immune fest and who ever has the least pots loses .

okay then. wrote an essay, pretty cool. I guess. I suck at pvp anyway, especially on a bm. I had to teach the poor rank 9 bm something...

Has anyone noticed that I look like a Zulu?

ICEsmoke - Harshlands

devoted - Lost City wrote: »

why Are You Using Combos To Stun Lock? Honestly, You Are Terrible If You Rely On Other Skills To Time Your Stuns.

If You Are Unable To Figure Out Which Stun To Use And When On The Fly You Haven't Been Playing A Blademaster Long Enough Or Really Haven't Stunned Enough. Relying On A Pre-planned Stun Combo Is Noobish At Best. What Happens When Something unexpected Happens? In Pvp? No Wai. Here's Some Scenarios You Could Be Faced With When Stunlocking:

- I Get Stunned By Another Person And My Skill Timing Is All Off.
- It's 1v1 And My Opponent Uses Immune And Stuns Me Throwing Off My Skill Timing.
- I'm Not Terrible At Pvp And I Use Fists So I Have No Skill Timing.
- Opponent Uses Expel, That's Physical Immune, I Can Still Use Occult Ice And Cancel Cast Everything/something While I Wait.
- Opponent Insta-removes Stun.
- Opponent Is A Mage, To Be Safe Overlap Stun And Occult.
- Opponent Is Melee, Save Genie Fuel And Use Stuns First.
- Lots Of Stuns On Cd, Use Paralyze On Kiting Class. Should I Seal?
---- If Mage Yes
---- If Sage Veno Yes
---- If Cleric Yes Unless Sleep/plume Barrier Are On Cd.
---- If Archer No Unless They Start Casting Wings Of Grace Then Interrupt.
---- If Psychic? Dunno Really, Haven't Spent Enough Time Since Tideborn, Psychic Seems Op So Hit Buttons.

Just To Name A Few I Can Quickly Think Of. How Are You Going To Adapt To These Situations? Theorycrafting A Stunlock Combo Is Great If You Are Fighting Mobs.

Try And Get A Feel For The Stuns And Their Durations/casting Time. This Is Really Only Acquired From 'practice' But You Should Have Picked This Up As Common Knowledge If The Game Required You To Actually Play It. New Bms Should Spend Some Time Just Trying To Stunlock Mobs. A Good Trick When Beginning Is To Note Where The Stun Cooldown Animation Is When The Effect Runs Out. Level 10 Roar Runs Out About When Its Animation Is At The 5 O' Clock Point. Use These Instead Of Skill Timings For Now Please.

Once You Actively Pvp Knowing What Stuns Are On Cd And When The Next One Is Up Becomes Pretty Much Second Nature. Having The Skills Bars Near The Stun Icon (*ahem* Skill Bar Haters) Also Helps If You Get Side Tracked And Really Allows You To Focus On What Your Role Of Bm Is: Immobilizing A Target For More Dds (or Yourself 1v1).

If You Want To Be Good At Pvp I Recommend People Try And Experience The Game Outside The Billing Page And Stun Stuff. A Blademaster Is The Only Class I Truly Enjoy Pvp With As We Actually Have To Use A Bit Of Skill In This Game. You Are Going To Be Terrible At Pvp With A Bm If You Don't Actually Play The Class Enough. Most Other Classes You Can Get Away With A Bit Of Keyboard Smashing But A Blademaster(especially With +30 Atk And Rank8) Has Very Little Room For Error Now.


Edit: I Want To Add That Having A Plan Going Into A Fight Is Great But Never Plan Which Stun You Are Using When. If You Try To Memorize An Order Of Stuns You Will Be Pre-occupied When Something unexpected Happens. Darn Pvp And Its Inconsistencies. It's Much Better To Have A General Style Every Fight You Have But It's More About Adapting To What Your Opponent Is Doing. Sadly Pvp Now A Days Is Basically 1 Shot Or Get 1 Shot So Most Fights Are An Immune Fest And Who Ever Has The Least Pots Loses :d.

Get A Life U Freak Lol

TheDan - Sanctuary

You realize once you got Demon Drake Bash and Demon RoP, the Cooldowns are perfectly synced?

RoP (14 sec CD) 6 second stun ---> DB (15 sec CD) 7.5 second stun --- > RoP is the general order if you're un-interrupted (which won't happen in Mass PvP/TW).

6 + 7.5 = 13.5 seconds stunned, 14 sec CD on RoP = perfect stunlock.

A lot of BMs forget that stun-locking 1v1 is not going to happen in TW/Mass PK, especially if you've got multiple targets on you counter stunning or allies assist stunning. As Devoted said, you should have to react/adapt to what your enemy is doing.

If you're a very experienced BM, you'll basically be aware of surrounding allies/enemies and when to stun/hf/slow and when to retreat or leap back.

VlLKASS - Sanctuary

prof wrote: »

I assume you've never done a quest? ever? .

o.o Wow you some kind of ******? The only one who could do quests is 105Kitamura since mobs in that area are +~105.
Now which quest did I miss that would require me to go to that place?

LifeHunting - Lost City

VILKASS: Actually those are the mob's in the deset. Around 101-106.
Which even my wife who is lvl 96 can kill >.>. My BM can stun and kill since most of them are damn ranged mobs....


Anyhow, their weak normal mobs. No real challenge.

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

LifeHunting - Lost City wrote: »

VILKASS: Actually those are the mob's in the deset. Around 101-106.
Which even my wife who is lvl 96 can kill >.>. My BM can stun and kill since most of them are damn ranged mobs....


Anyhow, their weak normal mobs. No real challenge.

I think the main point is that you don't normally see that place because there are no quests (?) for those mobs before level 105. Then again... I wouldn't know it yet.

VlLKASS - Sanctuary

Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think the main point is that you don't normally see that place because there are no quests (?) for those mobs before level 105.

b:chuckle This ^

Moog - Lost City

Whats really surprising is how hard that bm hit with unrefined rank 9 axes on a HA 101 BM. Almost killed you =/

ArchSaber - Sanctuary

Moog - Lost City wrote: »

Whats really surprising is how hard that bm hit with unrefined rank 9 axes on a HA 101 BM. Almost killed you =/

AssassinTime on Sanctuary is a Sage Sin with Sage deep chill and mastery with +12 rank 9 daggers. That would 1 shot Cable -.- or close to 1 shot.

Devoted - Lost City

XCableX - Archosaur wrote: »

okay then. wrote an essay, pretty cool. I guess. I suck at pvp anyway, especially on a bm. I had to teach the poor rank 9 bm something...

Has anyone noticed that I look like a Zulu?

What are you teaching him exactly?

I wish I could write an essay in 10 minutes.

ICEsmoke - Harshlands wrote: »

Get A Life U Freak Lol

No.

Okeano - Harshlands

ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »

AssassinTime on Sanctuary is a Sage Sin with Sage deep chill and mastery with +12 rank 9 daggers. That would 1 shot Cable -.- or close to 1 shot.

You'd think he could've bought a better name with that kind of money.

ArchSaber - Sanctuary

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

You'd think he could've bought a better name with that kind of money.

Your name sounds super asian, which sounds super weird.

Okeano - Harshlands

ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »

Your name sounds super asian, which sounds super weird.

My name is greek.

XCableX - Archosaur

I was teaching him the basics. For dummies. For nubs like me.

Yes, sure he hits hard, problem is...he can't play it. Oh well, you see it almost everyday.

So I know this one Rank9 Sin in my TW squad. He one shot me too.


OH OH OH!

Did I tell you guys a Fully geared +10 Rank 9 Barb one shot me with ToP and arma? Q__Q

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Highly refined G15 demon barbs raep. I can't imagine +10 G16.

XCableX - Archosaur

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

Highly refined G15 demon barbs raep. I can't imagine +10 G16.

So is it sad that it was a sage barb with all 4 socketed vit stones +10 (with +10 R9 axes w/ Garnet Gemsx2) and has Sage Arma and is the highest Cash shopped barb on the server with 37.xK hp and kill a bm who physical marrowed and had 8.6k hp with demon bell on?

Joshcja - Sanctuary

XCableX - Archosaur wrote: »

So is it sad that it was a sage barb with all 4 socketed vit stones +10 (with +10 R9 axes w/ Garnet Gemsx2) and has Sage Arma and is the highest Cash shopped barb on the server with 37.xK hp and kill a bm who physical marrowed and had 8.6k hp with demon bell on?

not seeing why +10 axes matter with arma

ArchSaber - Sanctuary

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

not seeing why +10 axes matter with arma

Still deals base physical damage.

And just stating this out, I think sage barbs suck butt ****.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »

Still deals base physical damage.

And just stating this out, I think sage barbs suck butt ****.

no it does not

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

no it does not

This o.o


Skill
Armageddon Level 10
Range Melee
Channel 0.4 second
Cast 1.8 seconds
Cooldown 30.0 seconds
Weapon Axe, Poleaxe, Hammer or Polehammer

Requisite Cultivation Transcendent
Consume all ones Chi, and trade half of all HP and mana for a massive
attack to all targets in a range of 12 meters from the caster.
Inflicts 4000 physical damage. Each point of HP
and mana consumed in casting adds an additional 4.0 damage.

Requires two Sparks