Legendary&TT equips for cleric

Kipitei - Raging Tide
Kipitei - Raging Tide Posts: 54 Arc User
edited December 2010 in Cleric
60~70 They suck. Or so I think. Why do so many people use snowdance set and hades pants etc. Am I missing something like a set bonus or something similiar? I find the 3star equips from auction house much much better.
All my equips have amounts of +69 phys def, +HP, +ele def, 2-4slots and +magic. I mean, what else do you need as a cleric ?_?
Please tell me why I should change to legendary gears that don't give phys res and have less slots than purple equips. Because I feel like I'm doing something wrong when everyone else has special gears -.-
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  • DeadRaven - Sanctuary
    DeadRaven - Sanctuary Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    There are a few decent pieces of TT/leg. equipment pre-90's but for the most part, 3* equipment with nice bonuses will serve just as well if not better, and is almost always much, much cheaper.

    So ya, you are on the right track,.... 3* equipment is the way to go for pre-90 arcane wearing characters on a budget. After level 90 though, nothing but TT or better will save you from being laughed at :(
  • Thinkalot - Dreamweaver
    Thinkalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    True, my cleric went with legendary chestpiece, Sleeves of sea captain (lvl 77) which i still wear and npc boots and pads till 90.

    After that : Rank 6 chestpiece, the TT90 boots & pads and the same sleeves (because of -chann).

    To be well geared doesn't mean you need to go all out for TT gear. It simply means you use what you can afford and suits you best in playstyle. And often enough at lower lvls npc gear with great stats are way better then the TT 70 or 80 armor or even legendary.

    The only reason you migh use legendary gear is because of the bonuses on it. Like the -6% channeling or something like that.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    TT70/80 armor is worthless.

    On the otherhand, mold pants and wrist are amazing at those levels.

    But yeah...if can't afford, just go the 3 star route.
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I'm going TT simply because other than subs, it's all free? o.0 And even the subs can be made using mats, so essentially, instead of buying good 3 star stuff off AH for stupid prices (some of the stuff on Sanctuary right now is almost as expensive as TT gear for 70+) , I simply did a bunch of TT runs. If I didn't have all the mats I needed, I'd trade faction mates for what I did. :p

    Plus... If you're going TT90 or TT99, you need souledges from TT80 gear, which requires souledges from TT70 gear... So, you will be making it or buying it ANYWAY. Which sucks for me, since I kinda wanted to hand all of my gear down to my other characters... I think I'll just keep using my 77/78/80 gear on my veno until 90, then upgrade.
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I'm going TT simply because other than subs, it's all free? o.0 And even the subs can be made using mats, so essentially, instead of buying good 3 star stuff off AH for stupid prices (some of the stuff on Sanctuary right now is almost as expensive as TT gear for 70+) , I simply did a bunch of TT runs. If I didn't have all the mats I needed, I'd trade faction mates for what I did. :p

    Plus... If you're going TT90 or TT99, you need souledges from TT80 gear, which requires souledges from TT70 gear... So, you will be making it or buying it ANYWAY. Which sucks for me, since I kinda wanted to hand all of my gear down to my other characters... I think I'll just keep using my 77/78/80 gear on my veno until 90, then upgrade.

    well TT90 green requires no souledges but TT90 green does need to be decomposed for TT99 gold
    the reason why i used TT70 was because exactly what sarra said above... its free and it is something you can farm yourself- plus when i was 70 over a year and a half ago xD molds were very rare- there was no such thing as bh so molds werent dropped and mysterious chips were just as rare. also TT90 gold was the cool thing to have... and you need TT80 green to decomp for TT90 gold and TT80 needs TT70

    sure there are always better equips/molds/3 stars you can buy for your level, in my opinion TT70 was ok but TT80 was useless- i remember using legendary 79 gear til i was 90 :p

    and to the OP- legendary gears/ TT gear refines better than 3 star drops i am pretty sure... that is why people tend to drift towards them, also 3 star drops might have adds but they dont come with sockets often enough
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  • DeadRaven - Sanctuary
    DeadRaven - Sanctuary Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I'm going TT simply because other than subs, it's all free? o.0 And even the subs can be made using mats, so essentially, instead of buying good 3 star stuff off AH for stupid prices (some of the stuff on Sanctuary right now is almost as expensive as TT gear for 70+) , I simply did a bunch of TT runs. If I didn't have all the mats I needed, I'd trade faction mates for what I did. :p

    Plus... If you're going TT90 or TT99, you need souledges from TT80 gear, which requires souledges from TT70 gear... So, you will be making it or buying it ANYWAY. Which sucks for me, since I kinda wanted to hand all of my gear down to my other characters... I think I'll just keep using my 77/78/80 gear on my veno until 90, then upgrade.

    If time is money then farming all your own TT equipment is most certainly not free, rather, it can prove to be very expensive. If you have high level friends to run you through TT fast, great; if you have friends willing to trade TT mats to get you what you need, super; if you have a lover(s) willing to give you mats for free, beautiful. However, if you are going to run TT with people your own level then buy yourself a catheter for all the time you are going to spend in TT, or if you are running with random squads, buy yourself a punching bag for the frustration you are going to experience.

    What I am getting at here is...the factors at play in making a decision over what equips to get pre-90 are going to be different for everyone. 3* prices may have gone up (I have not looked at the prices lately), but I outfitted my cleric with mostly 3*gear and -channeling sleeves for levels 70-80 from the AH for next to nothing (relative to the cost of TT mats). It would have taken me far more time to farm all the TT mats necessary to make TT gear than I actually spent making the money needed to buy *3 gear from the AH (I made most of the required money by simply selling DQ items I got while farming the mats I needed to level my manufacturing skills). And the best part is I can pass down all my equipment from my cleric to my veno and then to my wizzy. Also, you do not need TT 80 for TT 90, you only need TT80 if you plan on getting the TT gold gear (which I don't).

    Anyways, like I said, each to their own. There is no "one best path" for all.
  • lylfo5
    lylfo5 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    60~70 They suck. Or so I think. Why do so many people use snowdance set and hades pants etc. Am I missing something like a set bonus or something similiar? I find the 3star equips from auction house much much better.
    All my equips have amounts of +69 phys def, +HP, +ele def, 2-4slots and +magic. I mean, what else do you need as a cleric ?_?
    Please tell me why I should change to legendary gears that don't give phys res and have less slots than purple equips. Because I feel like I'm doing something wrong when everyone else has special gears -.-


    Purple gears with good stats(all resists) is hard to come by. For most people, getting a legendary(like pants of hades) is kinda good for the cost. Not to mention most already come sharded and refined making it easier for you. And also, by the time you are ready to change gears, they are easier to sell too so you don't lose too much from buying legendary gears.

    But if you can get decent purple gear, by all means go ahead and equip those. But that would mean lurking in AH for at least a week to find a good, non-overpriced one.

    tl;dr? Purple gear is rare, legendary gears usually comes refined, cheap-ish, can be resold and easy to find.
  • Kipitei - Raging Tide
    Kipitei - Raging Tide Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    lylfo5 wrote: »
    Purple gears with good stats(all resists) is hard to come by. For most people, getting a legendary(like pants of hades) is kinda good for the cost. Not to mention most already come sharded and refined making it easier for you. And also, by the time you are ready to change gears, they are easier to sell too so you don't lose too much from buying legendary gears.

    But if you can get decent purple gear, by all means go ahead and equip those. But that would mean lurking in AH for at least a week to find a good, non-overpriced one.

    tl;dr? Purple gear is rare, legendary gears usually comes refined, cheap-ish, can be resold and easy to find.

    Thanks so much everyone! I see now why people use those gears, I thought they were better but its apparently just a matter of convenience.

    Yeah I go to auction house 2 times a day every day and check all gears to see if there are any good ones.
    I think my best one atm is my hat of soothsayer +3 And I havent seen a legendary gear that I think is better than this so far :x

    HP+refine
    Mp+(200ish)
    Phys res +69
    Phys res +69
    HP+60
    Flawless garnet shard +41 phys def
    Flawless garnet shard +41 phys def
    Flawless garnet shard +41 phys def
    Flawless garnet shard +41 phys def
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    Perfect noob
  • lylfo5
    lylfo5 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Thanks so much everyone! I see now why people use those gears, I thought they were better but its apparently just a matter of convenience.

    Yeah I go to auction house 2 times a day every day and check all gears to see if there are any good ones.
    I think my best one atm is my hat of soothsayer +3 And I havent seen a legendary gear that I think is better than this so far :x

    HP+refine
    Mp+(200ish)
    Phys res +69
    Phys res +69
    HP+60
    Flawless garnet shard +41 phys def
    Flawless garnet shard +41 phys def
    Flawless garnet shard +41 phys def
    Flawless garnet shard +41 phys def

    I remember getting excited over a ring with 3 + mag attack stats lol. Only a few people would know the true value of those 3 star items lol.
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    people usually go OMG OMG LEGENDARY OMG TT b:avoid
    3* (or even 2*) can be better and cheaper (since people are obssesed with TT/legendary).

    eventually TT will lead to some of the best armors (nirvana). however, usually u dont want to wear armor without refines/shards especially in higher levels and all thse will be lost when you make the better armor. imho, it's better to get nice stuff that u can resell and when you will have enough money to get your nirvana, make the tt armor and use it to make nirvana.

    tl;dr: use your brain and dont be dazzled by names/sparkles. i have a 2* chest that can be compared to tt99gold chest (~50mil coins). for how much did it buy it? ~3mil i think.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    people usually go OMG OMG LEGENDARY OMG TT b:avoid
    3* (or even 2*) can be better and cheaper (since people are obssesed with TT/legendary).

    eventually TT will lead to some of the best armors (nirvana). however, usually u dont want to wear armor without refines/shards especially in higher levels and all thse will be lost when you make the better armor. imho, it's better to get nice stuff that u can resell and when you will have enough money to get your nirvana, make the tt armor and use it to make nirvana.

    tl;dr: use your brain and dont be dazzled by names/sparkles. i have a 2* chest that can be compared to tt99gold chest (~50mil coins). for how much did it buy it? ~3mil i think.

    Purple 3 star armor is awesome. But if you compare a level 70 purple 3 star chest piece to a level TT70 chest piece in AH, you will find the snow dance robe (TT70) to be more expensive, but it will already have shards in it, it most likely can be found at +3 or higher refine, and it's 100% guaranteed to have all 5 resistances.

    On the other hand, you will find a Purple 3 star gear much cheaper, but it most likely will only have 1, 2, 3, or 4 elemental resistances, 0-2 sockets, no shards, and no refinement.

    If you DO find a Purple 3 star armor piece that has 5 resistances, 2-4 sockets, shards, and is refined, it will more than likely cost you a lot more than the TT gear.

    Then you come to the point of if you find purple 3 star gear that has 5 elemental resistances and good gear bonuses, is cheap, has 2-4 sockets, isn't refined, and has no shards in it.

    It's gonna be about half the price of a good piece of TT gear. Unless it has -channeling, +phys resistance, +HP, +Mana, mana regen, or something like that, it probably won't be any better than the decent TT gear, especially considering the TT gear has shards. So, spend a little and put **** shards in your Purple 3 star gear, and it's still not as good as the TT, or spend more than the TT gear would have cost you in the first place for shards to put in your armor, and shard it. Now you've spent as much as or much more than the TT gear costs, for similar gear. Only benefit is the added bonuses purple gear can have. Downside can be the lack of 5 elemental resistances, and cost. And your Purple gear isn't even refined yet, so citrine shards not withstanding (or hp bonus from gear add), you get no HP bonus.

    I run Legendary gear on my characters. I've got Glaives of Divinity +5, with two perfect Sapphires. None of my gear has a refine lower than +3, and most of it, I actualy got cheap off AH or made myself for cheap. Though, I keep my eyes in AH for -channeling or interval gear for my characters... That's for sure.
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    It's not til 80 when TT armor starts to be worth it. 90 if you're an incredibly fast leveler.

    The main thing about TT that people tend to look at is that it's easy to farm, always comes with all the resistances, and generally you might/will need it to upgrade to the next version so that often times eliminates the necessity of farming again for it. Also has a fairly decent re-sell value.

    It depends on your budget and if you farm a lot in coin/do TT runs.