Build for 100.....

LifeHunting - Lost City

Yeah yeah some of you may hate what I put into the calcs, but this one is actually **** i've seen through-out PWI.

Things to ignore:
Level. I only put it there so that I would see what the HP would be like with the extra points into vit.


http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b37989a75f49246a


So is this a percieable thing for 100? (I probably won't get the tome and instead get something with +vit or +str/+dex....idk. Any suggestions on that?)



P.S. If you think there is something that could be better please just let me know in your reply and i'll replace the item in the calc to see what you mean
Oh yeah, I'M NOT GOING FOR RANK 8 OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT!

Steopie - Heavens Tear

post some realistic refines and people might take you seriously.

LifeHunting - Lost City

Steopie - Heavens Tear wrote: »

post some realistic refines and people might take you seriously.

Fine make the refines +8-+10. Idfc.

I just want opinions on the gear itself and how the overall build looks. Not just the damn refines =.=

P.S. +12 = Realistic. Seriously are you so blind you can't see the cat-shops selling the D.Orbs from 1* up to 12* or is it because your in Enrage and all your gear is "done" that you don't notice the stuff like that??

Steopie - Heavens Tear

LifeHunting - Lost City wrote: »

Fine make the refines +8-+10. Idfc.

I just want opinions on the gear itself and how the overall build looks. Not just the damn refines =.=

P.S. +12 = Realistic. Seriously are you so blind you can't see the cat-shops selling the D.Orbs from 1* up to 12* or is it because your in Enrage and all your gear is "done" that you don't notice the stuff like that??

I dont think anybody i know of on HT server or on any other server has +12 across the board. A lot of people have spent a LOT of cash and a LOT of time farming and merchanting, yet they do not achieve 12 across the board. Few achieve 10 across the board with a +12 wep. So how do you justify this as achievable, when a few posts ago you were begging people for info on making money to 'just' be able to get 150 mill for your fists?

However, I will offer my insight on something realistic and reasonable for you. I see you are keen on an interval build and may not plan to obtain a pangu / up and down tome. I am also not a fan of both evasion ornaments and have talked to a few of my guildie BMs about their LA / HA builds. I will present the one I think is most interesting and am led to believe is the most mathematically beneficial, though I will not 'guarantee' or vouch for it being so.

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=d1d579e744eae736

LA boots / wrists and HA belt / upper. Ideally the LA pieces would be replaced by HA pieces, and use a warsong belt and interval tome for 3.33 base / 5.0 sparked.
Necklace should be interchangeable with anything. I would suggest a 5% hp mdef one such as tt90 or lunar, or a later stage cube neck. Helmet should be interchangeable with any decent helmet, the nirvana one is more of an endgame goal and of lower priority, I suppose. Other tome suggestions would be the level 5 voidlands for optimal stat points and crit, else any lower level tome with beneficial stat points (dex, vit, str) alone or in any combination would be fine. Rings are also interchangeable with whatever you feel suit you best, for a cheaper budget I would reccomend the band from heavens jail mold ones, as they have a nice pattack value and good stat points. CoA ring is also a good option. This comes to personal preference and priority on accuracy mostly. b:shutup

LifeHunting - Lost City

Steopie - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I dont think anybody i know of on HT server or on any other server has +12 across the board. A lot of people have spent a LOT of cash and a LOT of time farming and merchanting, yet they do not achieve 12 across the board. Few achieve 10 across the board with a +12 wep. So how do you justify this as achievable, when a few posts ago you were begging people for info on making money to 'just' be able to get 150 mill for your fists?

However, I will offer my insight on something realistic and reasonable for you. I see you are keen on an interval build and may not plan to obtain a pangu / up and down tome. I am also not a fan of both evasion ornaments and have talked to a few of my guildie BMs about their LA / HA builds. I will present the one I think is most interesting and am led to believe is the most mathematically beneficial, though I will not 'guarantee' or vouch for it being so.

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=d1d579e744eae736

LA boots / wrists and HA belt / upper. Ideally the LA pieces would be replaced by HA pieces, and use a warsong belt and interval tome for 3.33 base / 5.0 sparked.
Necklace should be interchangeable with anything. I would suggest a 5% hp mdef one such as tt90 or lunar, or a later stage cube neck. Helmet should be interchangeable with any decent helmet, the nirvana one is more of an endgame goal and of lower priority, I suppose. Other tome suggestions would be the level 5 voidlands for optimal stat points and crit, else any lower level tome with beneficial stat points (dex, vit, str) alone or in any combination would be fine. Rings are also interchangeable with whatever you feel suit you best, for a cheaper budget I would reccomend the band from heavens jail mold ones, as they have a nice pattack value and good stat points. CoA ring is also a good option. This comes to personal preference and priority on accuracy mostly. b:shutup

Ty now that was the kinda response I was looking for

As for +12 across the board. Seen it on around 50 people so far. Usually just randoms I see in west arch going around to catshops who i inspect gear on. So +12 across the board does seem feasible in my eyes.
As for the 150 mil part on my fists <.<.....I have planned things out so that i will be able to get it. Last thing i need to decide is if i wish to use decides until I gather all the needed cash for the 30 best luck or stick with the FF fists.

Ty for the link of the gear with an explanation on it . But why is it BM's would need accuracy o.O....I've actually never seen any of my attacks miss something unless it was a immune to damage mob (which i recently learned you can actually deal dmg to ._.), or a archer. My attacks even land on sin's in my level range (90-100). Is it towards end-game we lose accuracy or is it to help increase/make sure we do not miss?

Steopie - Heavens Tear

LifeHunting - Lost City wrote: »

Ty now that was the kinda response I was looking for

As for +12 across the board. Seen it on around 50 people so far. Usually just randoms I see in west arch going around to catshops who i inspect gear on. So +12 across the board does seem feasible in my eyes.
As for the 150 mil part on my fists <.<.....I have planned things out so that i will be able to get it. Last thing i need to decide is if i wish to use decides until I gather all the needed cash for the 30 best luck or stick with the FF fists.

Ty for the link of the gear with an explanation on it . But why is it BM's would need accuracy o.O....I've actually never seen any of my attacks miss something unless it was a immune to damage mob (which i recently learned you can actually deal dmg to ._.), or a archer. My attacks even land on sin's in my level range (90-100). Is it towards end-game we lose accuracy or is it to help increase/make sure we do not miss?

Names on people with +12 all over? nobody in enrage does to my knowledge, I know of 1 person with a +12 weapon and armour set, not on ornaments or rings though. Theres a few with 10 all over and 12 on weps.

Accuracy = pvp mostly. I rage when i miss archers in TW. Like I said, preference. However Lunars = pretty sexy all round. Im currently using my lunar ring instead of my r8 ring, as I like the accuracy and mdef better. Should also mention r9 ring = b:dirty

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Rawrness

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Steopie - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Names on people with +12 all over? nobody in enrage does to my knowledge, I know of 1 person with a +12 weapon and armour set, not on ornaments or rings though. Theres a few with 10 all over and 12 on weps.

+1

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Kreuz - Raging Tide

You know refining from +11 to +12 actually is more expensive then Love up and down?
You need 4645 Dragon Orb 1* to make one +12 Orb.

Unless there any kind of sale with +12 orb going or smthing like that o:

Michael - Harshlands

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=eef2f1652fa188b4

judging by your random sharding you seem to wish a certain minimum attack level, so I built this one around having 20k hp buffed (at +10), equal physical attack as your +12 with G12 stones (only using +11 and G11 stones, total savings 500 gold for the +12 and 150 mill worth garnets) and 10+ attack level.

First always aim for lunar chest and legs, older players have the TT recasts cause we already had that gear, the lunar is actually superior in defence unless you have really high ornament refines which costs coin and your trying to be as cheap as possible initially, initially you would be using the tt99 sleeves not 2x recast ones (and 4th past belt not lionheart) but for the attack level you seem to wish its easier to go this way.

I wouldnt ever use LA unless I needed it cause of a 2x recast weapon with only 1 interval add or similar.

as you can see the planning in your build shows through when you start dropping the refines to a more reasonable level, your vit points are needed to have 19.5k at level 105, whereas mine has 20k at 100 with only 3 sockets in chest and legs (2 vit stones less assumed 3 sock due to lunar being expensive to 4 sock) also my build has 3 vit yours has 65, this means your build should be around 1k hp ahead ((150x2 + 62x15) x 1.45))

you give up alot of mdef for the LA orns (even with only 1 mdef orn the other build has significantly more mdef meaning living through mages is easier), your build seems to have superior pdef until you consider you +12ed both rings dropping those refines to +5 (like the build I made) drops your pdef to 16k compared to 20k.

When trying to create a build for a BM consider each of the factors independently initially and then try and combine them look at multiple differing options rather than being haphazard, and take your time to look at lower refines (+5 orns normally, +10 armor +11 weapon is considered as a decent endgame goal you should be able to achieve anything you want with this), remember vitality is a last resort first try getting the HP you want with just gear and 3 vit, then if needed put vit in if you cant attain it reasonably, as every point you put in vit reduces your pattack, and can cause a significant damage reduction

Factors to consider

APS (3.33, 4.00)
Weapon (TT100, 1st or 2nd recast)
HP buffed (20k+ or lower acceptable)
Mdef (7k+ without marrow is good, less is hard to handle)
Attack/defence levels (do you want them? if so how much and what will you give up to get them?)