Rating your classes that you play and why

Xarathox - Dreamweaver

Suprised no one's rated Barbs yet. <.<

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Suprised no one's rated Barbs yet. <.<

A barb with decent refines and good shards is something HATE, not as much as an Assassin because it's not insanely hard for me to live against a barb, but that HP is a nightmare to tear through. I have to make them use their chi, exhaust their genie, then spark and go all out while they're unable to invoke. Though.. I LOVE claw barbs, they can't stun lock me and I two shot them, just as magywarlor from our server b:sin

Yulk_owns - Lost City

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Venos, even with a nix aren't insanely powerful at end game. 80% of them go down pretty easy, it's just a matter of knowing how to counter them.

Wizards can hit extremely hard at end game, their Sutra combos and BT can be extremely deadly but they can be killed. I've managed to beat most Wizards I fight, and have learned quite a bit about the class from those that I've fought by watching what they do.

Blademasters are very nice in PvP if the person behind it is skilled with stunlocking, if you don't have fast reactions there's a high chance you're going to die if they have -int. Stunlocking, the magic defense of a caster class, and the ability to throw out insane damage if they've acquired the gear for it.

Clerics.... You really think we're that weak? Come to DW, or better yet I'll reroll to Lost, level up, and show you just how weak we are by one shotting you. Clerics have nearly as much one shot potential as a Wizard having an ultimate that's only surpassed by Wizards in terms of sheer damage. Even without Tempest, taking down a Cleric that knows how to play is challenging for ANY class. Just ask someone that actually knows about PvP.

Assassin's are, no matter what anyone tries to say, OP in PvP. They can be countered though, skilled casters manage to kill Assassins (Yes! Even 5.0 Assassins!) every day, you just need to be quick.

I'm gonna go ahead and stop... these are my personal views based on what I've seen in terms of PvP and even if they were wrong.. at least I have something called experience to back up my claims, unlike Yulk. As for PvE, casters using a DoT? If a caster does that they're wasting time because the mob will go down a lot faster with regular spells, you seriously need to quit trolling.

Again, those 80% of venoes that go down are just stupid??? Right??? A lot of fail venoes around. Nix is far from the reason, why they are OP. Fight a decent veno instead of them dumb/lazy ones. It is easy to counter them that does not play right at all. I have seen vids too. The nix just made them even more stupid.

Assassins maybe OP in PK, but not in 1 vs 1 or TW. You have a better chance to stun lock them, any assassin your level in PK mode can and will kill you because they are designed to ambush and stunlock people to death. PK means nothing, but in the non open PVP, sins have no choice but to stun lock or be stun locked to death. Venoes can be even more tricky in other fields. Especially in pk mode, them dumb venoes do not use caster form right, or fox form. I found a stupid lvl60+ veno and easily ownt her on Yulk BM. Assassins on the other hand, even if they are decent, I still beat them. while veno can slightly be stupid and still beat me in duels.

Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Suprised no one's rated Barbs yet. <.<

Furries rated barbs 9/10

Xarathox - Dreamweaver

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

A barb with decent refines and good shards is something HATE, not as much as an Assassin because it's not insanely hard for me to live against a barb, but that HP is a nightmare to tear through. I have to make them use their chi, exhaust their genie, then spark and go all out while they're unable to invoke. Though.. I LOVE claw barbs, they can't stun lock me and I two shot them, just as magywarlor from our server b:sin

I've got **** refines and only Immac shards in my lowly tt90 green armor. Still got over 16k hp w/o trying, and probably more str than I need to smack the hell out of a caster.

Azzazin - Dreamweaver

Assassins not good at 1 on 1 huh... Yulk, seriously, what sort of grubby little hole have you buried your head into for the past year?

Sure you can make the statement that, under the right conditions, a veno with skill can kill any other class in a 1 on 1. But then if you actually think about that a bit, any class played with skill can defeat any other class in a 1 on 1 battle, given the right conditions.

We aren't talking about what is possible here. Its a fact: assassins have all the right skills to do better than other classes in 1 on 1 fights. That little poll with, uh... 112 freakin votes on it (40% of which say assassin best in the pk fight) versus your concept of veno as 'the most OP pvp class'? Yulk, do you even have a character above level 90? 100? Do you have any concept of how easy it is to kill a veno's pet? On my assassin, an aps build of course, under 2 seconds.

Venos have a stun, and a seal/immobilize, that I know of (the skills that stop others from attacking/running away). Assassins have 2 stuns, a long immobilize, a seal, and of course, stealth. Assassins simply have many more ways to disable the opponent/escape the opponent, and an assassin's dps is going to be higher than a venos (even fox-form venos) without even trying. If you are going to equip your veno with interval gear, I shall equip our hypothetical assassin with interval gear too... guess what, assassin's still out-damage venos. By-a-freakin-lot. I'd love to see you try out-dpsing a barb with physical damage... while somehow keeping them from running away for the 10s or more it would take for you to do it! But this is something most assassins with high interval can accomplish.

Do you somehow think everybody is wrong? Venos MUST be OP, cuz the Yulk says so! Reality check dude, when this many people are telling you 'not true', and they all higher level than you with much more credibility, guess what... they right---you wrong.

(Are we just supposed to stand still doing nothing while a veno amps and purges us?... lol.)

Azzazin