5 APS Veno??

Killmin - Harshlands
Killmin - Harshlands Posts: 122 Arc User
edited September 2011 in General Discussion
Can it be done??

Should it be done??


I want to farm my nirvana gear and I have a very hard time getting a squad with all the 5 aps sins and bms. No one evan cares about amp anymore so I am wondering how to make my veno a 5 aps in fox form so i can farm and then go back to my AA build after i get all my gear made.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    It can be done, but it requires hundreds of millions of coins for the gears.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    TT99 LA wrist + Boots
    TT99 HA neck + belt
    Lunar -int cape
    -int tome
    Nirvana leggings
    Deicide

    That will get you 4 aps. I don't see any way to get 5 aps permanently.
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Is it possible?

    I beleave so, but the cost on getting such a build will be very costly and might not be worth the effort.

    But I don't know how to make such a build so yea... b:cold
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  • DeadSound - Lost City
    DeadSound - Lost City Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Killmin - Harshlands wrote: »
    Can it be done??

    Should it be done??


    I want to farm my nirvana gear and I have a very hard time getting a squad with all the 5 aps sins and bms. No one evan cares about amp anymore so I am wondering how to make my veno a 5 aps in fox form so i can farm and then go back to my AA build after i get all my gear made.

    You cant use fists in fox form.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    DeadSound - Lost City wrote: »
    You cant use fists in fox form.

    There's apparently some bug that allows you to do that.
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  • Saiyori - Dreamweaver
    Saiyori - Dreamweaver Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You have to break the weapon, change to fox, then repair it and don't change back.
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    There's another way to do it besides breaking the weapon. But you'd still have to relog if you want to get out of fox.
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Saiyori - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You have to break the weapon, change to fox, then repair it and don't change back.

    what if u just use an ornament/tome/whatever that adds dex/str to wear the claws/fists, remove it, turn into a fox and then wear it again?

    not sure if it works for that but i use to to cast skills on my cleric with claws xD
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    what if u just use an ornament/tome/whatever that adds dex/str to wear the claws/fists, remove it, turn into a fox and then wear it again?

    not sure if it works for that but i use to to cast skills on my cleric with claws xD

    You can't change equipment once you're in fox form.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Let's talk about hax baby b:cute
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You can't change equipment once you're in fox form.

    aw. clumsy foxes b:avoid

    i should have figured that out, if u could change stuff u could just change the weapon b:beatup

    how about reset notes? XD
  • B_K - Sanctuary
    B_K - Sanctuary Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    can be done, should it ehhh i plan to switch my la armor to my veno when its complete just for the fun of it.

    for the wep depending on the damage i would look for a magic wep at ur lvl that has the highest attack and deal with the missing interval, and compare ur damage output. of course im a sage veno so might not work out so well for me.

    my fav veno was a heavy who accidently got all the interval just from having normal gear ;D
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  • brent40
    brent40 Posts: 49
    edited November 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You can't change equipment once you're in fox form.

    Think you use to be able to switch mid cast.
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    brent40 wrote: »
    Think you use to be able to switch mid cast.

    That was the other method I was referring to. lol
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  • Kehrendorh - Archosaur
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Sad that this game has turned into all classes must go 5aps in order to get anything done end game PvE wise.
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You cant be 5.0 as veno. Venos dont get attack speed from triple spark and they also cant get interval from rank armour. So basically you're like a Sage Barb using claws meaning you cant get more than 4.0 base even with every single int gear available including tome. However by spamming genie skill you can reach 5.0 - which is fully possible if you use like lvl 1 Windshield.

    Demon veno is kinda better if you wanna use claws since you get more weapon dmg from triple spark. Celestial Eruption gives more magic attack but that doesn't affect fists/claws.

    The foxform glitch with claws does work but it seems rather inconvenient breaking your claws to 0 duration several times a day. But i never tried it personally on my veno so dunno, maybe the extra dmg is worth the repair bill + worrying about getting reported + attacking npcs for hours to be able to go foxform lol.
  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You can get 4.0 base, which means if you have high magic on your genie, you can spam wind shield for permanent spark.

    Also, the veno here is probably 5aps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJaE7j1N2E

    I made this thread a long time ago.
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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    In fox form, it's very much worth it to go 4aps. You DON'T need to break your weapon every time you want to go in, so there's no repair bill to worry about. Worrying about getting reported is an issue... BUT, there was a thread made awhile ago in which Frankie stated that he did not know of anyone getting banned for switching weapons as you go into fox form. That's not to say it isn't bannable, but so far hasn't been an issue. It really falls under the same category as BMs who cast one skill with one weapon and then quickly switch to another to cancel it while still keeping the effect - if they don't get banned for it, this method of using claws in fox form should in theory be safe too. At the very least I'd expect you'd get a warning first before being banned.
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  • Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary
    Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    meh why u all talk about fists in foxform? i heard and got confirmed it was bannable for barbs so it it for venos then i suppose >.>
  • KingThis - Heavens Tear
    KingThis - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I have the first 5.0 veno on pwi i believe since i haven't seen or heard of another.
    it's actually 4.0 perm and using genie skill Lv1 wind shield to get 5.0.
    They sure are fun. purge, amp, insane def. and insane dmg.
    the fact i can demon nova, amp, ex poison, +more with 5.0. makes bosses drop.
    Veno's 5.0 with the right gear gives them a unique system to play with :)
    it's tricky and all about timin for those who would like to attempt it.

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  • Cheze - Lost City
    Cheze - Lost City Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You can get 4.0 base, which means if you have high magic on your genie, you can spam wind shield for permanent spark.

    Also, the veno here is probably 5aps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJaE7j1N2E

    I made this thread a long time ago.

    jesus christ all those bms cancel like proz
  • Killmin - Harshlands
    Killmin - Harshlands Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    So than what is the gear I have to get to make this happen?? does it have to be tt99?? I ask becouse I already have 99 gold AA and I would hate to have to refarm it in LA or HA but if needed I will i geuss.
  • Toxic - Dreamweaver
    Toxic - Dreamweaver Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    KingThis - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I have the first 5.0 veno on pwi i believe since i haven't seen or heard of another.
    it's actually 4.0 perm and using genie skill Lv1 wind shield to get 5.0.
    They sure are fun. purge, amp, insane def. and insane dmg.
    the fact i can demon nova, amp, ex poison, +more with 5.0. makes bosses drop.
    Veno's 5.0 with the right gear gives them a unique system to play with :)
    it's tricky and all about timin for those who would like to attempt it.

    G/L :)b:bye

    I know there's been one on DW for quite awhile.
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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Toxic - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I know there's been one on DW for quite awhile.


    There's another on HT as well, though not sure how long they've been using their int gear on their veno. lol
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  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    KingThis - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I have the first 5.0 veno on pwi i believe since i haven't seen or heard of another.
    it's actually 4.0 perm and using genie skill Lv1 wind shield to get 5.0.
    They sure are fun. purge, amp, insane def. and insane dmg.
    the fact i can demon nova, amp, ex poison, +more with 5.0. makes bosses drop.
    Veno's 5.0 with the right gear gives them a unique system to play with :)
    it's tricky and all about timin for those who would like to attempt it.

    G/L :)b:bye

    I know Hoang's Veno debuted 2 weeks ago on the Tiger Event. Were you before or after him? :O
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    People who don't value amp are stupid peoples.

    I wouldn't go 5.0 with Veno just to farm. I mean listen to yourself, look at what you are going to spend to reach 5.0. Is it worth that just to farm?

    Physical classes reach high APS "to farm" because it's an improvement on their character to do so. If I hit faster with claws I hit faster with bow. However, attack speed doesn't exactly improve your character as a veno...If you are LA build then maybe you could go for it, but if not, I would just make friends. There are plenty of people who would be nice enough to take a friend regardless of class.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Cheze - Lost City wrote: »
    jesus christ all those bms cancel like proz

    Canceling is hard?
  • Cheze - Lost City
    Cheze - Lost City Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    Canceling is hard?

    because most ppl don't. and also notice they cancel two skills at once...
  • Proclivity - Archosaur
    Proclivity - Archosaur Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    i have actually been looking into the possibility of a Fist veno purely for CoA Farming becouse i know how to get into fox form with fists, bows on... not that i do it ofc, and they wouldnt be as terrible as alot would think.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b1fd34c4707f50af

    4 APS is the max any class except Sin and BM can go, unless you do what i did and make a pure magic genie that has level 1 wind shell, allowing you to spam it for the 10% speed increase every cooldown.

    The Tiger Gems are in there becouse them 2 parts + the rings and neck/ belt (assuming u have replacements) are the parts you would interchange to go from Magic to fists. That build also has enough magic for a 95 Neon Purgtory wand.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Killmin - Harshlands wrote: »
    Can it be done??

    Should it be done??

    no...
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