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markevin
markevin Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2010 in General Discussion
I remember back in the day gold was only 300-400k a pop.



now its 600k. Basically, discount sales from the boutique automatically increases the prices of gold (e.g. packs, 1 star dragon orb 50% off). A good example would be right now, just before and after thanksgiving, 10+ dragon orbs are 50 gold and 1 stars are 50% off. A flip-flop effect would be the absence of packs from the botique that plunders down the gold price significantly. The more demand for gold , the more the price that exist increases exponentially. Predictabilty for gold prices going up is related to occasions such as thanksgiving, holloween, christmas etc.. So take advantage of that.
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Buying GOLD:

For example, with the absence of packs, and discounts, the gold price is 400k. Let's say I have 60M in-game coins

60,000,000c devided by 400,000g = 150 gold

Selling GOLD:

Now just before Thanksgiving that spans a few days after it, gold becomes 600k because of the aforementioned boutique bonanza.

I have 150 gold

150g x 600,000c = 90,000,000 coins (30M profit)



It takes a loooooot of patience to profit, many months actually.



I brought forth this topic since I have 60M coins and gold buying price is around 550-600k right now.

so 60M devided by 600k = 100gold (not really a smart decision right now). But after Thanksgiving, it as fact that gold price will decrease because of the absense of the bonanza's. And I haven't seen gold this high, which means its the right time to sell gold right now. A right time to buy gold would be the recession of gold and boutique.





It is all about consumer power. If you make a lot of profit ingame you would wanna gold to buy stuff in the boutique because of such discounts. If there is none, why buy gold then..?



One more example is the +10 orb right now is only 50 gold, back then it was 75 gold.

If I buy gold with my 60M coins i get 100 gold. I can get 2 of +10 orbs. Once it deminishes, I can sell it roughly for 45-50M so thats a 90-100M coin back with 30-40M profit. And it will take after thanksgiving to for me to sell it in that price range. That means Im gona be broke and will wait until somebody buy it on my catshop, who knows how long that will take?

< I am seriously considering this option right now and its pissing me off what to do



Now if I was a genius and was totally prepared for the do I might have started to buy gold when it was 500k a piece.

60M devided by 500k = 120 gold

then THANKSGIVING ---

save 20 gold and sell it 600k = 2M profit

buy two +10 orbs (100g) then sell after recession = 30-40M profit

Profit is more evident with discounted boutique items.



So basically to profit, you need to be saving a lot of coins in-game and buy gold when you're absolutely sure that there is totally **** items in the boutique. Then, wait for the right time, like lets say 150k facebook likes, Christmas, New years etc. to sell your gold for more coins profit or buy items from boutque that will sell high after the high times are over.
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I remember back in the day when gold was more or less around 100k.
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I remember back in the day when gold was more or less around 100k.

    o the good ol days how i miss them i rlly shouldnt have been ****ing around bck then and i should have gotten serious and lvled and bought a **** ton of gold to get all tht i wnted then get some more and save it for times like these b:laughb:cry
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well....pretty sure loads of ppl will charge zen....


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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well....pretty sure loads of ppl will charge zen....


    The end of days are here. b:laugh

    the end of days allrdy came the first day packs were put into the game now hell is just slowly geting more layers of ice stacked upb:cry
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  • Faynalia - Sanctuary
    Faynalia - Sanctuary Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited November 2010
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010

    ive seen tht a couple times some son of a *****'s trying to sell gold for 800-1m in AH this yearb:angry
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  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    think u sold a tad bit to early


    sell is at 700k

    Buy is near 700k
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Gold is 750 buy here... b:sad
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Gold is 750 buy here... b:sad

    Well, they put three insane things in the Boutique at the same time:
    1. Tiger Packs at 50% (which means that selling them at 390k is profitable until ~845k gold)
    2. Ocean Orbs at 33% off
    3. 1* Dragon Orbs at 50% off (which means selling them at 100k is profitable until ~720k gold)

    And then there's of course the fact that the sales only just started, which always spikes gold prices.

    Oh, and add the 2x and we'll see it stabilize at like 800k for the rest of the week. That's my guess, at least.
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  • BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear
    BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    omg will ppl ever stop qqing about natural inflation?

    yes, gold was at 100 k per, but that was at times when highlvl was at 60-80.
    times have passed, highlvl now is 104 = more ingame coin income than in 60s lets see next year if there r still enough players it will be 1 m-1.2 m per gold
  • Egaenil - Heavens Tear
    Egaenil - Heavens Tear Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    b:surrender Gold only 850 here.. I wish I can buy some at 650k
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    omg will ppl ever stop qqing about natural inflation?

    yes, gold was at 100 k per, but that was at times when highlvl was at 60-80.
    times have passed, highlvl now is 104 = more ingame coin income than in 60s lets see next year if there r still enough players it will be 1 m-1.2 m per gold

    We QQ because the **** admins think TW pay is actually a .... factor in why gold was so high. I think doctor phil says it best, "how's that working for you?"

    PS Gold @ 700k x 50 = 35m, +10 orbs where 30m 1 month ago @ 75 gold. This game is getting pathetic now. I'm tired of every move PWI makes is to make gold go up higher and higher and its pissing me off.
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    dw is sleeping, 679/650

    WTB cross-server ccount stash :b
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    GMs, so like.....why is gold so high? b:laugh
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  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    omg will ppl ever stop qqing about natural inflation?

    Natural inflation grows steadily, it doesn't jump.

    This is pretty amusing though. :p
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  • condo2009
    condo2009 Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    read back to what was said when they dropped the prices of dq items....it was to bring the price of gold down.....never happened, only doubled the price!!!
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    what a pity we cant all farm nirvy in 10min during 2x drops, sell the raptures for 2mil and buy gold for 100k ^.^
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    GMs, so like.....why is gold so high? b:laugh

    Obviously the fault of all those TW mirages & the new Dragon Order system duh.
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  • BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear
    BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    well i still think its natural inflation.

    first year low prices to attract players.

    2nd year playerbase reached a certain lvl. now bring some difference between the highlvls. => packs were born => increased gold price. still natural inflation.

    3rd year main playerbase is at 100 => main income is higher than in 2nd year. => packs stay in boutique => higher goldprice. still natural inflation

    killing tw money, brings more balance since op tw guilds r not in such a huge advantage in getting too much free ingame money.

    lowering tw prices same result since there is a highlvl playerbase.

    seriously game would be lame if u could still get gold at 100 k once ur a lvl 100 if tw guild or not, grind 1 hour at lvl 100 and u get 800 k (at least i get that much(not on this char tho))
    that would be 8 gold in 1 h. how fast do u think u would get all over +12 gear with best shards? maybe 2 weeks.
  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    grind 1 hour at lvl 100 and u get 800 k (at least i get that much(not on this char tho))

    That is pretty pro grinding. I concede to your greatness.
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  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    sleepcat wrote: »
    That is pretty pro grinding. I concede to your greatness.

    agree im happy if i do uhm 200k o.o but o well,persons post failed when called prices natiraul inflation. would be no packs, but we do have em.
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

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  • AlysonRose - Heavens Tear
    AlysonRose - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Gold is over 850k on HT right now. I had never sold any gold in the more than a year of playing this game, but I sold some yesterday for 600,200 b:cry and tonight for 850k b:laugh

    I'm enjoying my new bulbfish and 4soc Wings of Cloudcharger. I was gonna get a cube neck or a warsong belt but no ne was selling them and I saw that cape for cheap.

    For someone that had NEVER had more than 18mil on them at one time (and only once) I rather enjoy how the economy just shat itself. For now at least. Dragon orbs are still way too high to actually use coins on them, and I'm not buying any gold in a VERY long time.

    My seeker/mystic will get an awesome cape at lv45 tho b:thanks

    Time to grind up the chips and coins for that springrush amulet I was working on this month. Doing somethings the hard way ftw b:victory
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  • KillerCandy - Heavens Tear
    KillerCandy - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Looks like a lot of people agree about this whole "packs= end of game" thing... at least for people that dont cash shop and are under lvl 100 and can't crack out on nirvana. I remember when i first started this game, i liked it a lot, it was a fun, challenging, pass-the-time kinda game. now even at lvl 95 i have to choose between lvling or making coin, both taking weeks to get anywhere because I can't spend my life on the computer. I've stopped playing this game, been playing another mmo for about a week and i am much happier to see it hasnt been infected with nerds that spend $100s on a game. Yet...b:shutupb:surrender

    Would like to point out the main point: If you are below level 100 and DO NOT buy gold with cash, it is more stressful to try to play this game than it's worth. Go play a pay-to-play. D:

    By the way, if you are one of the people buying gold with cash and selling for more than 400k, i hate you. you make it not fun to play this game.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    lol, I have friends who are just soo tempted to charge zen since gold is 800K+. rofl rofl.....PWI's plan is working. b:cry
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  • Darkjagans - Heavens Tear
    Darkjagans - Heavens Tear Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    We QQ because the **** admins think TW pay is actually a .... factor in why gold was so high. I think doctor phil says it best, "how's that working for you?"

    PS Gold @ 700k x 50 = 35m, +10 orbs where 30m 1 month ago @ 75 gold. This game is getting pathetic now. I'm tired of every move PWI makes is to make gold go up higher and higher and its pissing me off.

    Well that's pretty much how I used to feel back when I actually cared, but in the end, we all know PW never really gives a **** and will continue to churn out insane sales to increase gold prices/encourage more zen charges, which is of course beneficial for PW and that's what really matters for them.

    PW will never admit their constant "sales" are a factor, so they put the blame on whatever else they can.

    Here's the infamous thread by xarfox and pretty much when gold prices started to skyrocket
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=365942
    And to think we used to complain about gold being 200k b:chuckle
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  • tigerbarb
    tigerbarb Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    LOL now wasn't this reason why TW was pawned, to prevent this from happening, b:laugh

    $$$ is KING !!!!!!b:dirty
  • Gryphyyn - Heavens Tear
    Gryphyyn - Heavens Tear Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I will just post my response from another thread, as this thread is very similar:

    "Bank and Tank" baby....this is how these games are developed. Better to leave while you're still ahead.

    In the short term, the game will generate revenue; however, in the long run, they will have shortage of new players - meaning less potential gross revenue over time. Definitely bad PR.

    Time for this game to get a respirator.
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  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I sold about 50% of my assets last night for about 150 mil to buy 267 gold for 566k each....anticipated that it will reach 700k. But now its past the 800k mark! b:victoryb:laugh lol - 60+ mil profit in 15 min.
  • ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear
    ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    woot over 800k in HT server i gonna beeeeess rich!!!
  • AlysonRose - Heavens Tear
    AlysonRose - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I've already decided that an Earthguard flyer will be the last thing I ever use real $ on in this game, and only if i like playing the new classes. While I did enjoy the "black friday hysteria" over gold, and I'm happy with what I managed to get for relatively little investment, I'm seriously hating the way things have been going.

    Unlike most, I'm not talking about since day one of packs QQing, I'm talking about all my friends that have quit in just the last 3 months due to the "roll a sin or bm or have nothing to do at endgame" BS that permeates the game anymore.

    I personally still realize that its just a damn game, and if it goes to hell its entirely because of those people whose names you see in Yellow or Red text all day every day on your servers. The ones that people would make free players buy gold just to get an extension of their Black list.

    Dragon points are the single greatest addition to this game. No matter what else happens, i'm very thankful that they were implemented and can't wait to see what they might add in the future.
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