Repeating History
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MrHanky - Harshlands wrote: »canadians aren't smart - okopogo is canadian - okopogo isnt smart
i would like also to call him the 3 letter word that starts with g and ends with ay.
tyvm
b:surrender Canadians are only stupid half the time ._.'NiaJade - Harshlands wrote: »I agree but it is a speical kind of guild hopper... it is the one that drags three or four with them, or.. worse care scenario..... more. These are the one that for what ever reason, mutiny against you and leave.
For a lot of people, a Legion might not be a good fit for them .. so they seek one out that is... or they mirror what their buddies do... and join in a cluster > leave in a cluster.
Well ... many things cause Legion issues but the odds are .. its all happening on the inside.. and too many times, spies are there poking bigger holes in the smaller holes and sitting back, watching the fun as they continue to undermine.
ALL Legions have their growing pains but if they just remember this, they can overcome and recover.
Its true that there are a lot of "spies" are trying to tear apart guilds as you say, also the number 1 reason for factions falling apart is because of internal issues. All the guilds ive been in that have fallen apart is because the leader wasnt active enough, or the officers just didnt give a rats *** about what happened to their guild members :I thus making people leave for the lack of help and active-ness and the guild slowly dies. But all guilds are going to die. nothing lasts forever and every good thing has to come to an end at one point.
Now guild hoppers are another story, personally i think they shouldnt even join a guild if their going to join it then leave a half hour later. they need to find a guild they like and stick with it, else their going to end up causing some things that they may or may not have wanted to cause. but then again most people are faction hoppers and when they see the ship go down, they jump and hope to survive the mess.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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OP should write a ****ing poetry novel.
This is a game, you play a game for fun, when it is no longer fun, you leave and quit.
The place were I am having the most fun is the guild I'm in now, which is not the best... So I dont understand when people say they should drop the incredible evil people that are in zulu... They just choose to play the game in a different way b:shocked0 -
Innamorata - Harshlands wrote: »
I see the same fate for Harshalands, Zulu being the new Warlords. Soon Kylin and Crimson will fall and the same horrible fate awaits us all.
What can be done to prevent such a disaster, damning us to shadow and dullness?
Kylin hasn't completely fell, and Crimson is no where near falling. You can't base how a faction will survive based through TW. It's quite obvious that Zulu will take the map, but doesn't mean every single faction on the server will suffer and fall.
People will just quit from boredom.
Long story short. Zulu owns Harshlands. There's no stopping them for a while.
Get over it~
And stop assuming things. Everyone quits, whether it's cuz we can't beat a powerful faction and there's no point, or that fact that this game gets lamer by the minute, so why waste your time.
And hai Oko.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
The main reason no one is going to beat us is because there's people just don't have a clue as how to lead TW.60 / 250.0
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Bloop - Harshlands wrote: »The main reason no one is going to beat us is because there's people just don't have a clue as how to lead TW.
Quoted for truth.
As far as loyalty, a lot of people on HL I noticed are serious guild leapers--Not hoppers. They'll go to a faction because they think it looks cool, and if there's anybody below level 70, most people just bail.
It makes you wonder what they would do if all of us 70+ guilds just stopped accepting members?
And then of course, there are those who are in a faction that is COMPLETELY fail (we can all name a few) who thinks that they're hot sht because they have a few 10x on their side, who barely log on for a few minutes. Better yet, those who think they can gank a high level and think about calling it PK. Newbie factions are getting to that point, and it's kind of pathetic to think about... >.>;
Crimson is nowhere near dying, although I am seeing fewer and fewer pretty yellow dragon icons running around lately... It could be a phase, who knows. We all know Crimson has been here a VERY long time, and has survived worse scenarios than this.
I do agree though; it's mostly a question of loyalty. Too many noobs want endgame power (or something close to it) instantly. It's all about the power, and right now? Zulu has it. Life moves on.0 -
Relax people, I know it's just a game, but then again I'm talking in the spirit of it. We are supposed to chitter chatter about TW and what not. Don't think I was being dramatic heh.0
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Bloop - Harshlands wrote: »The main reason no one is going to beat us is because there's people just don't have a clue as how to lead TW.
your wrong i think
a leader is nothing without their followers and the members of zulu win the wars not the leader Fail troll of harshlands0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »OP should write a ****ing poetry novel.
This is a game, you play a game for fun, when it is no longer fun, you leave and quit.
The place were I am having the most fun is the guild I'm in now, which is not the best... So I dont understand when people say they should drop the incredible evil people that are in zulu... They just choose to play the game in a different way b:shocked
yes its a game Woneo but we cant help bringing our own pride and hate to the game. b:chuckleFail troll of harshlands0 -
Partially true.Bloop - Harshlands wrote: »The main reason no one is going to beat us is because there's people just don't have a clue as how to lead TW.
Zulu has had a lot more challenging TW's than any of the other servers besides Kylin. When Kylin was able to give a good fight, ya'll had amazing TW's. So just from those TW's, you guys got some really good practice/plans in.
And like ya said, the leading of TW has a lot to do with it.
However, it's nearly impossible for any "smaller" faction to lead a TW against an extremely powerful faction. Zulu has how many Rank 8? Just one Rank 8 can take out maybe 1/5 of of the whole 80 (average-geared players.)
Not saying Zulu is only powerful because of their Rank 8, but ya, they know how to lead. The core that created Zulu are all experienced with the game and TW tactics. The Rank 8 are just a bonus to add to their strengths.
It's clear that, while you need good strategies and leadership in TW, it also requires those extra bonuses. In this case, Rank 8.
Lol unless you can take the Rank 8 peeps first, there's no way you'll be leading that TW to victory.
Given and true fact
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Bloop - Harshlands wrote: »The main reason no one is going to beat us is because there's people just don't have a clue as how to lead TW.
That's pretty arrogant, but I wouldn't expect much less from you.
I don't quite agree though. I think players got lazy and joined what was easy, which is what Zulu is.
The players that could and/or have lead great TWs in the past are burned out on the game.0 -
Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »serious talk about loyality
humans would back stab their own family if they got paid to do so b:surrender
i personally doubt many zulu members are loyal they are just there for the power involved
Wow....think that's more how u are, some ppl don't have a price (and it's true)....
I wouldn't wanna be in your family.
Now, in game is a whole different story, is true that there's nothing that can be considered a serious matter for loyalty, I'm just establishing how guild hopping kills a guild, not saying it's something guild hoppers should be ashamed of or anything.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
-Semi-quit the game, I'm very busy nowadays
-Former member of Kylin
-Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte0 -
I would back stab my family for money if it was a good 5mil or so....ijs
I only care about myself in the end, **** everyone else.
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Pot_Head - Harshlands wrote: »I would back stab my family for money if it was a good 5mil or so....ijs
I only care about myself in the end, **** everyone else.
see everyone has a price ^.^Fail troll of harshlands0 -
Garaver - Harshlands wrote: »Wow....think that's more how u are, some ppl don't have a price (and it's true)....
I wouldn't wanna be in your family.
Now, in game is a whole different story, is true that there's nothing that can be considered a serious matter for loyalty, I'm just establishing how guild hopping kills a guild, not saying it's something guild hoppers should be ashamed of or anything.
ok garaver if someone were to give you a choice between your familes lives or 100 million in cash which would you choose?Fail troll of harshlands0 -
Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »see everyone has a price ^.^
Pot_Head is not every1Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »ok garaver if someone were to give you a choice between your familes lives or 100 million in cash which would you choose?
My family[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
-Semi-quit the game, I'm very busy nowadays
-Former member of Kylin
-Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte0 -
Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »ok garaver if someone were to give you a choice between your familes lives or 100 million in cash which would you choose?
ouch, why would you even give somebody that choice?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thank You Forsaken
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Garaver - Harshlands wrote: »Pot_Head is not every1
My family
good you made the right chose there b:victory
now...
All your family or 6 million other people?Fail troll of harshlands0 -
Luckyrose - Harshlands wrote: »ouch, why would you even give somebody that choice?
its to show character and to see if he is as good as he say's he is.Fail troll of harshlands0 -
Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »its to show character and to see if he is as good as he say's he is.
And who are YOU to judge character when you yourself are just as flawed, if not more?
You certainly have a knack for derailing threads, putting them off topic, and either killing or over-emphasizing the point. Go level your cleric or something.0 -
I think that you are forgetting that Lutirica has nothing better to do then pretend to be this awesome, "HEY IMA ****-SHIET UP" troll.
She/He/It will most likely not go out and level Her's/His/It's characters because She/He/It loves spending time pretend to be a cooler troll.0 -
Innamorata - Harshlands wrote: »Let me take you back 2-3 years ago, when PW just started. The server: MY Oracle. A malaesian named NeoNe0 and his friends started playing PW and made a guild named Warlords. They power-leveled and soon became the strongest guild on the server. Week by week they took over territories and got hundreds of millions in revenue, while the other guilds got broke apart and players moving to Warlords because of greed. Soon only their allies remained on the map, moment when they broke all their ties and took over those terfs too. Now they had the entire maps, looted TW every week and becoming the best geared in the game, while others could barely keep up with gear and constant PK. Some tried to merge and uphold WL but it was too late, they have been on first place too long and were to well geared and juned. This went on months and months until the server became a disgusting cesspool to behold for everyone except Warlords. The End.
I see the same fate for Harshalands, Zulu being the new Warlords. Soon Kylin and Crimson will fall and the same horrible fate awaits us all.
What can be done to prevent such a disaster, damning us to shadow and dullness?
Well there's a big difference, isn't there?
That guild sounds like it was one of the top guilds since the beginning, and it sounds like they earned good money for winning TW, AKA no reduced TW pay via mirages. This would mean that they had a drastically better income than 90% of the server, so of course they were free to control it. They also had the age advantage and were able to develop this dominance before anyone else.
Zulu on the other hand is actually quite young; younger than both Kylin and Crimson, and the TW pay nerf took effect somewhat early in Zulu's TW career.
If anything, the fact that long-standing guilds like Kylin, Kingdom and Crimson have gone under shows that our server won't meet the same fate. The fact that Zulu is currently dominating is, in my opinion, just a result of better tactics on Zulu's part and their one good opponent (Kylin) losing power.I
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What tactics? o.OLongknife - Harshlands wrote: »The fact that Zulu is currently dominating is, in my opinion, just a result of better tactics on Zulu's part
Zulu got more and more CS American players who attended TWs, Kylin kept losing similar players and recruited almost only non-CS players from Europe who, even when well-geared, never wanted to wake up at 2-3 a.m. for TW.
Mystery solved b:chucklePacks World International0 -
/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »What tactics? o.O
If other guilds are TRULY asking themselves this, then yes, they're guilty for their own losses.
But I wasn't targetting Kylin with that anyways. Kylin has (or at least had) their **** together in TW and was a good and fun opponent. All others still need to practice, learn and improve.I AGOREY0 -
Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »good you made the right chose there b:victory
now...
All your family or 6 million other people?
Lawl,u just went completly out of topic, u were talking about ppl having a price based on money, on the situation that I had the fate of 6million ppl on my hands (which is absolutly stuped) I would probably, with all the grief of the world choose the 6mil ppl, but is just sooooo dumb to even try to make a point out of a ridiculous statement like "ME!!!!!! THE GREAT DECIDER!!!!!"Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »its to show character and to see if he is as good as he say's he is.
O.o I'm not saying I'm a saint, is just common sense lol, there are some things in life that can't be bought or sold (for some ppl) like values, family, real love, and others, usually, ppl that think otherwise have a) been raised poorly or b) suffered a grand trauma in their lifes.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
-Semi-quit the game, I'm very busy nowadays
-Former member of Kylin
-Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Well there's a big difference, isn't there?
That guild sounds like it was one of the top guilds since the beginning, and it sounds like they earned good money for winning TW, AKA no reduced TW pay via mirages. This would mean that they had a drastically better income than 90% of the server, so of course they were free to control it. They also had the age advantage and were able to develop this dominance before anyone else.
Zulu on the other hand is actually quite young; younger than both Kylin and Crimson, and the TW pay nerf took effect somewhat early in Zulu's TW career.
Oi. At least we know Nurfed isn't making money IRL off of selling TW income to gold-selling sites like Wasabi did and, I believe, NeoNe0 did. And probably a lot of people from the CN servers did as well. Given the outcome of those two versions, I can easily see why they nerfed TW pay.
But yes...WL and Immo both originally came from the CN version if I recall right. They all already knew how to play the game and how everything worked.If anything, the fact that long-standing guilds like Kylin, Kingdom and Crimson have gone under shows that our server won't meet the same fate. The fact that Zulu is currently dominating is, in my opinion, just a result of better tactics on Zulu's part and their one good opponent (Kylin) losing power.
Watching TW as an outsider for the past few months, I have to conclude that it's probably a combination of tactics and gear. Now, I don't know what everyone's gear is like in Zulu/Kylin/Crimson/etc., but that combined with bad tactics is usually the reason for quick losses. Reminds me of getting steamrolled by Utopia in MY.
That being said, I would like to see Zulu take the map. It is the ultimate goal of any TW guild, is it not? Anyone who says otherwise is pretty much deluding themselves.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I say we zulu go take the whole map so it is reseted and we go back to PVE TW b:dirty0
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Applequest - Harshlands wrote: »I say we zulu go take the whole map so it is reseted and we go back to PVE TW b:dirty
I say Zulu takes the whole map and they merge us into LC when they see what a failure of a PVP server this is.0 -
HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »I say Zulu takes the whole map and they merge us into LC when they see what a failure of a PVP server this is.
Happy why you so mad? b:surrender0 -
Applequest - Harshlands wrote: »I say we zulu go take the whole map so it is reseted and we go back to PVE TW b:dirty
U in Zulu? O.o
go figure....[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
-Semi-quit the game, I'm very busy nowadays
-Former member of Kylin
-Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte0 -
Garaver - Harshlands wrote: »U in Zulu? O.o
go figure....
Whats that supposed to mean0
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