Sage/Demon question...again...lol

SteelStar - Heavens Tear
SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
edited November 2010 in Assassin
Just looking for a bit of advice.

I am currently building a full HA Sin and I can't make up my mind what would be best. ASP is nice, but sins all ready kill quick. Better blood paint ect I think would be great to because as being HA I could possibly tank when needed like a fist BM.

So I guess really the question is: Whay do you think would be best for a HA Sin, Perma-Spark or better Survival Skills?
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My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
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  • NSAT - Lost City
    NSAT - Lost City Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    a bm.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Going HA on a sin is pretty much the same as going BM.

    And technically, you could just use Deicide to get to 5 aps with Sage as well, but that'd be so hilarious it's not even funny.

    A full-str HA sin with daggers is pretty much like a weaker BM with bloodpaint.

    Oh and btw, if you want to keep your daggers, you'll have to start as LA and restat to HA at endgame, since you won't have enough +stats to keep HA and daggers at the lower levels.
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  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I understand on how the stats go and I agree LA would be best, but I've got a stash stone and TT99 HA on my Barb.

    I present my BM.. I mean Sin. http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=65eea6ba30360fb0 I have all these gears except the cape and well my sin is only lvl 20... lol

    Just trying to think a head and see if it is really worth it.
    It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
    My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
    VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    a bm.

    If one is aiming for a pure auto-attacker with high-aps, Sin is better due to BP.
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  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well this is nice, No real input from anyone except for those that disagree with the build just call it fail. Thank you all for your input and time. -.-
    It's a game and I'm proud to be a stupid fail demon barb!
    My EPIC Fail Demon Barb has 40k/48k HP and my stat points are as follows:
    VIT 552 STR 310 DEX 60! b:surrender
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well this is nice, No real input from anyone except for those that disagree with the build just call it fail. Thank you all for your input and time. -.-

    A Demon sin already has incredible survivability due to massive bloodpaint heal from high damage and aps. If you plan to do this, I suggest that you:

    1: Definitely go for claws to take advantage of all that str you will be statting for HA.
    2: Demon. HA will already give you enough survivability if you plan on wearing armor your level range.
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  • Teny - Heavens Tear
    Teny - Heavens Tear Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    to be honest with you, a HA build can work if/only if you're flexible with some pieces of gear.

    i.e. mix/match HA/LA pieces so you'll still end up with some decent interval, it's all about your money management really because you're saying "perma spark or Survival Skills"

    There's no build where using skills is going to help you survive, sry2say.

    It takes a lot of gear to get a sin hitting 5.0 with a demon spark, the only flexibility you get is if you are fortunate enough to have rank 8 on a sin, where you can lose 1 piece of .05 interval.

    HA sins have a serious damage nerf, and you have so much strength that arguably it's not even worth using the daggers anymore, you'd be better off with claws like someone jokingly suggested earlier.

    Also, given the HA situation, you'll need a very, very good weapon if you intend to "tank" stuff due to your damage nerf.

    HA can work but, GL getting the interval you need w/o sacrificing some gear.

    tl;dr: Go demon at the very least, quicken is -not- overrated.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You don't need to mix up LA and HA as full HA BMs can achieve high aps with HA.
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  • Teny - Heavens Tear
    Teny - Heavens Tear Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You don't need to mix up LA and HA as full HA BMs can achieve high -int.

    Except this is about his Assassin with daggers, not a BM.

    A demon sin, generally, needs the following to get to 3.33 base:

    2x TT99 Lionheart -.05
    2x TT99 Ashura -.05
    Interval Tome -.05
    Nirvana Pants(LA/HA) -.05
    Interval Cape -.05
    1st Cast TT Nirvana Daggers -.1
    Rank 4 top -.05

    The only extra interval available, like I said, would be in the rank 8 top, where it would give .1 instead of .05, so he could lose .05 from that list of reductions and still hit 5.0 in a demon spark.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Except this is about his Assassin with daggers, not a BM.

    A demon sin, generally, needs the following to get to 3.33 base:

    2x TT99 Lionheart -.05
    2x TT99 Ashura -.05
    Interval Tome -.05
    Nirvana Pants(LA/HA) -.05
    Interval Cape -.05
    1st Cast TT Nirvana Daggers -.1
    Rank 4 top -.05

    The only extra interval available, like I said, would be in the rank 8 top, where it would give .1 instead of .05, so he could lose .05 from that list of reductions and still hit 5.0 in a demon spark.

    If you go HA and still use daggers...b:bye
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  • Teny - Heavens Tear
    Teny - Heavens Tear Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    If you go HA and still use daggers...b:bye

    ...? Do you even have a point or do you just post for +1?
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    ...? Do you even have a point or do you just post for +1?
    Except this is about his Assassin with daggers, not a BM.
    No, I'm carrying on a conversation with you. Disagreeing with you, if you will.
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