Cleric Build Question
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Before people go blowing pointless amounts of money to achieve an actual efficent LA/HA or whatever insane out of the box build, I would suggest you test it out on the many available private servers. I do all my hands on testing on a server that starts me out at 100 with full set of TT90 gears. I can stat, restat, and restat again with every gear available from LA/HA/AA. I can go out test on PvP, PvE, Solo, and never spend more than what it cost to run my PC.0
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when people talk about squishy clerics they are basically describeing the fact they have little to no P-def, in which case they absorb at best 15-20% of in comeing physical damage, and a lot of AoE mobs in endgame content does some very impressive physical AoE damage, You said you were able to solo every "magic boss" to date. Common sense would tell you why you were able to. When you can solo a physical boss, then you achieved somthing.
How's Yan the Traitor? (at time quest was received). The first time I solo'd Yan on a cleric an archer wanted to join me. He promptly took aggro, and died before I could heal him. I spam healed myself, rezzed the archer, and continued killing Yan.
Then there's Raged Wraith, albeit a magic boss, where it's simply more expedient for a cleric to solo than to try to heal a barb.
How many barbs and BMs solo these two bosses?
Oh, and yeah, I know about end game bosses. I've solo'd level-110 Callas (and all the bosses in that instance) on a level-99 cleric. How many barbs solo Beezlebub?
Even with physical bosses, I've found that if I can't be two-shotted, I can beat the boss, regardless whether he's magic or physical.
Thank you for your definition of "squishy." I still don't think it's appropriate to continually apply it to clerics, particularly since an on-the-ball claric can easily survive 4, even 5 physical mobs that would easily take out other classes.
Clerics may be squishy given the most narrow of definitions, but certainly no more so than other classes, given different types of mobs and bosses.0 -
Chrystin - Raging Tide wrote: »How's Yan the Traitor? (at time quest was received). The first time I solo'd Yan on a cleric an archer wanted to join me. He promptly took aggro, and died before I could heal him. I spam healed myself, rezzed the archer, and continued killing Yan.
Then there's Raged Wraith, albeit a magic boss, where it's simply more expedient for a cleric to solo than to try to heal a barb.
How many barbs and BMs solo these two bosses?
Oh, and yeah, I know about end game bosses. I've solo'd level-110 Callas (and all the bosses in that instance) on a level-99 cleric. How many barbs solo Beezlebub?
Even with physical bosses, I've found that if I can't be two-shotted, I can beat the boss, regardless whether he's magic or physical.
Thank you for your definition of "squishy." I still don't think it's appropriate to continually apply it to clerics, particularly since an on-the-ball claric can easily survive 4, even 5 physical mobs that would easily take out other classes.
Clerics may be squishy given the most narrow of definitions, but certainly no more so than other classes, given different types of mobs and bosses.
jus laffs...0 -
pssst chrystin..
zimo does mag dmg
which means most of the time, squishies like us DO tank him, especially when theres no barbie b:chuckle
why are yu trying to prove that yur an uber cleric by saying that as an AA pure mag cleric, where yur magdef is pretty high, that yu can solo a mag mob or boss ?
i mean.. most clerics die from mag bosses, nbd..b:surrender
4, or 5 physical mobs? uhhhm....
sorry, im full mag as well, and im heavily sharded with a pretty awesome set for my levl, which is mostly tt80g, and if im sharded cits, im sharded with flawless and up. with a barbie buff i have about 3.6k hp. i think im at a good position, and i'm keeping this set well through the 8xs and even the 9xs. my sets only weakly +'d, with an all around +2 average (some exceeding, and maybe 1 going +1). without shell, can i survive 1 phys mob thats 2 levls lower than me? yes. can i survive 2 phys mobs? sure, if i stack IH like a *****. 3? thats questionable.. doing almost 1.3-1.4k at a time. 4? ...5?... uh, IH runs out after 15seconds i hope yu know. and thats with a mob thats 2 levls lower than i am. now, i'm not poorly geared, nor am i an uber noob that spams the attack button to deal pity damage.
i have solo'd many of my own bosses, but these bosses i've soloed have MAGIC ATTACKS. not physical. i walked into my bh59 just so i can try to get some more tags for rep.. if i dont carefully lure, i'll easily die. sure, i can solo the bosses who have MAGIC ATTACK from range, but doesnt mean i can go through the whole dungeon tanking 5-6 mobs on me.
yu cant be 2 shotted? okay. how bout 3? how bout a few stuns in there and IH interupting skills?
now... if yu had fully +10 gear and all that shet, then sure yu can, but for most of the general cleric population, we make terrible physical dmg tanks. shell can save us for 20 seconds but which boss takes 20 seconds to kill? please, tell me yur godly ways on how to do that. i would love to know.
and an answer to the opening question,
i prefer pure mag. b:victorylevl 8x cleric on ragingg tidee; Solae0 -
Laughs back.
psst ... Solae ... you're 3 levels higher than me and my HP with a barb buff is 1K more than yours. Perhaps you should rethink your "awesome set."
You people want to go on believing clerics are squishy, fine; I've said my piece.
Gotta love all the misplaced, juvenile condescension here.
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Wow nothing like watching a cat fight between 2 female clerics arguing when BOTH are pure magic heheb:laugh
Btw Yan the traitor is MAGIC RANGED SO OFC YOU COULD SOLO HIM and the archer when he got aggro went poof (low mdef and prob no barb buff). Hmm so a 77 pure mag cleric says they've ALWAYS soloed their own bosses eh? Oh so tell me how did jewelscalen, gargatong, kimsa, the wood ranged boss outside fb 59, bh 51 bosses, the last 2 bosses in fb 69, etc. go for ya? Those NO cleric at the level they get them will EVER solo them unless they wanna have +10 or higher gear in their 40-70's and still wouldn't be able to handle some of those. I'm just wondering what actual "physical" bosses you've managed to "solo?"[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Chrystin - Raging Tide wrote: »Laughs back.
psst ... Solae ... you're 3 levels higher than me and my HP with a barb buff is 1K more than yours. Perhaps you should rethink your "awesome set."
You people want to go on believing clerics are squishy, fine; I've said my piece.
Gotta love all the misplaced, juvenile condescension here.
Ta
If you put aside all the discussion over LA/AA, point distributions, equipment used/bonuses, skills etc. The fact remains that AA is of course going to be the weakest against physical damage. Clerics and mages predominantly use AA and when fully buffed mages will have the more pdef because of their stone barrier self buff.
Cant really argue with that but thats not to say all clerics are squishy or similarly that all other chars are non-squishy.
@Rawthorne dont think any class can really solo those bosses at the level you get them! b:shocked--Retired--
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Wow nothing like watching a cat fight between 2 female clerics arguing when BOTH are pure magic hehe
Now if only we could convince them to do it in the nude, and in lime jello, it would be on!
(I just hope one or both dont have a pair of nads under their robes)0 -
Now if only we could convince them to do it in the nude, and in lime jello, it would be on!
(I just hope one or both dont have a pair of nads under their robes)
You bringing the jello or the whipped cream cuz I'll get the otherb:victory Oh wait who's gonna film this.....any volunteersb:laugh?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
ohnoes. whyy liimee jelloo ?
then we'll get all..sticky.. b:shutup
...*stops*
anyways...
chrystin, what exactly is yur set...?
im actually quite curious how a levl 77 can have 4.6k hp buffed as a full magb:thanks
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i do think a tt80gold set is a pretty "awesome set" o-o
idk what sets yu use.. but if yu consider tt80gold to be a bad set, then im guessing yur a heavy cash shoppah who only uses +10 and up. but personally, i think its safe to say its a pretty decent set, if not good. .__.levl 8x cleric on ragingg tidee; Solae0 -
I'd go with highly-offensive i have lvl54 cleric with it and he's pretty good. to get my hp kinda good, i get armor with +vit and +mag or mag attck and use hp shards. my lvl54 cleric has 16 vit (armor, i never ever lvled it) and 1,300hp probably cuz of shards. but i recommend putting shards on armors that u will keep or just make armor like i do. and also, to solve the problem from near-death experiences use ironheart and if available,spark and those mobs will be easy. no worries, even without spark u can still kill mobs with ironheart before attck. I also would advice u since ur cleric. when ur about to leave and ur lvl30-40 use alot of cs. when u reach lvl40 do bh's, more xp than cs and lvl40-50 is fastest. Hope this helped.0
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