Worst Class For Getting in a Random Squad

hellok
hellok Posts: 5 Arc User
edited November 2010 in General Discussion
Hi, because I have to prove something to someone. Which class has the hardest time finding a squad for instances. Yes I know certain instances need a class more then others. But in general on average what class has the hardest time getting in a random squad. As in not with friends or guild.

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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Psychic
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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited November 2010
    Mystic, since their summons won't even work in instances.
  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Psychic

    What's a psychic? O.o
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  • Krisnda - Lost City
    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Venos without hercs...
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    EDIT: ITs ether clerics or wizzies or Psychics
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  • Demon_EA - Harshlands
    Demon_EA - Harshlands Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    idk, psy or archer :(. i think it is wizard. but yeah. its tough for dds :(

    it is because the game is not balanced

    i vote archer, maybe it is me, but people always kick me on my old archer T_T
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  • hellok
    hellok Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    why is cleric winning b:shocked wtf
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Demon_EA - Harshlands wrote: »

    i vote archer, maybe it is me, but people always kick me on my old archer T_T

    What?! How could someone as pro and knowledgable as you get kicked? What a crazy world it is.
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    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What?! How could someone as pro and knowledgable as you get kicked? What a crazy world it is.
    Maybe he was a sage archer...
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    hellok wrote: »
    why is cleric winning b:shocked wtf

    Its because it takes hours just to find a cleric just for a squad. >_>
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  • murkury
    murkury Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Clerics, They SUCK! No one ever needs them. Waste of time even playing that class.
  • hellok
    hellok Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    SilverCleric - Lost City wrote: »
    Its because it takes hours just to find a cleric just for a squad. >_>

    I meant hardest class of the individual looking to get in a squad. Not the squad looking for that class. I probably worded the question wrong b:surrender
    murkury wrote: »
    Clerics, They SUCK! No one ever needs them. Waste of time even playing that class.

    Okay i am definitely getting trolled b:laugh
  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    hellok wrote: »
    I meant hardest class of the individual looking to get in a squad. Not the squad looking for that class. I probably worded the question wrong b:surrender

    If you say that I would say either what Kris said about Venos without hercs or Psychics. b:surrender
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Veno's in general, but especially one without a herc. Then wizard/psychics. Veno's because they are a dime a dozen, including those with a herc, that they either fill up their spot fastest or they usually start the squad, particularly for RB. Wiz/Psy are useful for all things without dmg reduction ([?]), in which case APS build archer/sin/BM/barb or even a veno with -int HA would be better. Unfortunately Nirvana is a huge endgame instance and magic DD's are most overlooked especially for APS build sin/archer/BM/barb or even HA venos w/ -int gear + herc.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Mage, pure vit barb, veno without a herc, and psys are pretty equal I'd say.


    But if I had to pick one I would say mage, Psy DPS is a little bit higher, barbs can devour, and venos can amp.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Psy.

    Wizzies are definitely wanted in at least GV. Psys...not really wanted in any dungeon.
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  • TevesRagen - Lost City
    TevesRagen - Lost City Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    As a cleric, I find it really hard to find a squad. I don't have claws or -interval gear, so nobody thinks I can be of any use. Apparently pots and sins have eliminated the need for a healer.
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Krisnda - Lost City wrote: »
    Venos without hercs...

    This is now replaced by BMs & Sins without -Interval
  • ClericMD - Lost City
    ClericMD - Lost City Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Weird I prefer have a veno (even if dont have herc) in squad to a sin or a wiz, venos can lure, make good damage, have that debuff that increase damage and hey they have a pet so you have 2 in 1 members in your squad, in game are very goods combat pets for venos, herc is no the only one.

    In personal i hate sins in squad hate this agro stolen....
  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I have never seen a wizard in any squad...EVER.
  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Psy's hand down imo. Though close run in with wiz but I give wiz the bump up because they're wanted for rb. after reading about hercless veno's I don't think thats entirely true, since instances like lower lvl bh's, rb, and nirvana. They're not expected to have herc or really don't need one (though veno's are a dime a dozen as one person said).
  • Silest - Sanctuary
    Silest - Sanctuary Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Veno's in general, but especially one without a herc. Then wizard/psychics. Veno's because they are a dime a dozen, including those with a herc, that they either fill up their spot fastest or they usually start the squad, particularly for RB.

    This is very accurate.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well I've never had issues getting squad, but apparently this thread is telling me I'm wrong and I'm horrible at getting them.


    The only disadvantage a Psychic has with getting invites to a squad is that people are bloody ignorant about the class, and thus may be more likely to invite a class they actually know something about. I have run into a few squads where people were absolutely clueless about what a Psy does and chose to invite a more "normal" class instead because they knew what they were getting.


    Otherwise Psys are excellent AOEers (I can pullm aggro from a Zhenning wizard), pretty good support (an AOE heal spell over time, a buff to increase effects of heals, debuffs to quickly kill a mob/absolutely nerf it's casting rate, buffs that allow us to pull aggro off of others and stay alive while doing so, white voodoo often allows a Psy to hold a boss for a fallen squad just as easily as a barb would), have better DPS than a wizzie (best magical DPS in the game) and have a 6 second AOE stun just like Blademasters: two members in a squad with 6 second AOE stun is quite powerful. Also, on occassion, Soulburn will absolutely **** specific opponents. A great example is hitting the BIG *** SLASH boss in FC with Soulburn just before he does his big *** slash. So why would a Psychic be the last pick?


    A Psychic friend and I have solo'ed bosses before just between the two of us. Between our stuns and Psy will, we didn't need a cleric because we never got hit.
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  • Sam_ - Harshlands
    Sam_ - Harshlands Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Psy.

    Wizzies are definitely wanted in at least GV. Psys...not really wanted in any dungeon.

    unless the psy its urDian b:chuckle
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  • Janrey - Raging Tide
    Janrey - Raging Tide Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Wiz, Cuz we have less Aoe skills and Some skills requires 1 or 2 chi.
  • Lanyiara - Harshlands
    Lanyiara - Harshlands Posts: 271 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    A Sage Sin that doesnt have any -int gear.

    Noone seems to get that I think -int is for the sheep >_> My Sin only just hit 95, itl be ages afore 96 b:cry
  • Minimus - Sanctuary
    Minimus - Sanctuary Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Depends which instance. Barbs are replaced by bms, sins for tanking. For some instances only one cleric or none is being taken in squad. Psychics skills aren't well known what makes it harder for them. Sin may be seen as too squishy for some players. Venos have problems as well. Wizzies don't have comparable dps with sins,bms,barbs,archers. Bms have a good time even if they aren't 4+ aps but someties there are too many of them. Psychics and wizzies are important in TW but since there is less incentive to do them especially these two classes may have a hard time.
  • Krisnda - Lost City
    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    ClericMD - Lost City wrote: »
    Weird I prefer have a veno (even if dont have herc) in squad to a sin or a wiz, venos can lure, make good damage, have that debuff that increase damage and hey they have a pet so you have 2 in 1 members in your squad, in game are very goods combat pets for venos, herc is no the only one.

    In personal i hate sins in squad hate this agro stolen....


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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Depends entirely on the instance.

    I see alot of RB delta squads (not the sissy BH squads, but real wave5 and up) begging for a wiz for hours (mostly when I do NOT have time for a delta, since I still need my wave 5b:surrender )
    A GOOD wizzy for delta is almost impossible to get.
    On the other hand veno's (or sins) have an impossible task getting into delta. There's a ton of em, only 1 job for them on the squad (so either veno, or sin, or an extra zhenner/BM). If I had to choise I'd pick sin last, veno first, and extra zhenner 2nd. Only reason to get a sin over a zhenner would be bonus beans

    Outside of delta.... Well FC needs zhenners, wizzy is a good zhenner (a sage wizzy can through DB every room without even dropping below 2 sparks).

    Other than those 2, specially with double drops. Almost impossible. Though simply TT2-3 runs generaly just take any DD's they can get, nirvana and 3-x is almost impossible for us wizzys.

    And psy's. I think psy's have it even worse
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  • _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear
    _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Due to fishy racism, I'd say psy, with sins being a bit more wanted because of high APS. I dunno why wiz got so high I've never had problems getting into any squad but nirvana o.O
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