Diamonds of Tiger + refines?

/zus - Dreamweaver63
/zus - Dreamweaver63 Posts: 2 Arc User
edited November 2010 in Assassin
Hi all. Today I saw a red named BM and his gears was tt99 with only Diamonds Of Tigers Attack lvl +1 exept for his weapon. I also saw that he made +6 refines on all of them.

I was just thinking , can this be good for a sin going Attack lvl +1 diamonds and refines instead of HP shards?
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  • /zus - Dreamweaver63
    /zus - Dreamweaver63 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    any1 plz?
  • VeritasXXX - Raging Tide
    VeritasXXX - Raging Tide Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited October 2010

    i personally wouldn't go for it.
    As a 5 vit sin those shards keep me alive i already hit hard enough as it is :P.
    Would it be good tho?
    Depends how you play it i guess.
  • /zus - Dreamweaver64
    /zus - Dreamweaver64 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    well i was thinking diamonds + deepchill would be crazy, but tbh i dont like that buff.
  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    DoT's are for hit and run pk. Sage sin is more pvp based, demon is more damage based.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • /zus - Dreamweaver67
    /zus - Dreamweaver67 Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    If u go DoTs , Headgear , body armor , leggings , footwear, bracers and cape, 4 sockets each + weapon (2 sockets), 4x6+2= 26 DoTs which means +26 atk level + jonars blessing (+30 atk lvl) = 56 atk lvl in total without deepchill.

    Thats expensive but you hit hard ^^
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Wouldn't depend on if garnet type gems grant more than Diamonds of Tiger?

    What is equvalt to one ATK level?

    May Garnet gems surpass that amount later?
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Wouldn't depend on if garnet type gems grant more than Diamonds of Tiger?

    What is equvalt to one ATK level?

    May Garnet gems surpass that amount later?
    Attack level gives an attack bonus relative to your attack, Garnets give a set phys attack bonus. So the answer is no; a Garnet gem wouldn't surpass a DoT. If anything, it would be the other way around.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Wouldn't depend on if garnet type gems grant more than Diamonds of Tiger?

    What is equvalt to one ATK level?

    May Garnet gems surpass that amount later?
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Attack level gives an attack bonus relative to your attack, Garnets give a set phys attack bonus. So the answer is no; a Garnet gem wouldn't surpass a DoT. If anything, it woul dbe the other way around.

    If you are talking about weapon, which I assume you are because garnet on armor does nothing to your attack, it'll be better to shard garnet than DoT.

    Math was already done for magic class that even for them sapphire is better. Since most Sins are DPS build, 1% of our hit is significantly less than 1% of caster's hit. If 1% of caster's heavy DPH doesn't match sharding sapphire, Sin won't come close in terms of getting better benefit. The set value on garnet will be multiplied by the damage multipliers from your DEX, mastery as well as attack buffs, so you get much more boost in attack than a shard's face value.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    If you are talking about weapon, which I assume you are because garnet on armor does nothing to your attack, it'll be better to shard garnet than DoT.
    True, we WERE talking about armor here...
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  • /zus - Dreamweaver70
    /zus - Dreamweaver70 Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ok well what about the +1,+2 def lvl stones?

    Better than +10 vit stones or better than HP shards?
  • Twsted - Raging Tide
    Twsted - Raging Tide Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    /zus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ok well what about the +1,+2 def lvl stones?

    Better than +10 vit stones or better than HP shards?

    Vit stones would def be better. As a sin our def sucks so 1% more of what we have is garbage. I wanna know if ppl would prefer to shard cit gems or vit stones? With vit stones you get 100hp but also some phys and mag def but im not zure how much. As opposed to 120 hp and no def from cit gemz.
    is it jus me or does every thread turn into a flame thread at some point? wheres the love?? b:cry
    WTF is a gank? -_- its called pvp
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Twsted - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Vit stones would def be better. As a sin our def sucks so 1% more of what we have is garbage. I wanna know if ppl would prefer to shard cit gems or vit stones? With vit stones you get 100hp but also some phys and mag def but im not zure how much. As opposed to 120 hp and no def from cit gemz.

    Um, no? You get 130 hp from +10 vitality. So Savants are better in either case.
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  • Twsted - Raging Tide
    Twsted - Raging Tide Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Um, no? You get 130 hp from +10 vitality. So Savants are better in either case.

    Woah ur right my bad. I took someones word for that instead of checking it for myself >_> soo yea vit stomes all the way. They cost roughly the same amount as cit gems on RT so u wont have to pay more.
    is it jus me or does every thread turn into a flame thread at some point? wheres the love?? b:cry
    WTF is a gank? -_- its called pvp
  • OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide
    OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    im going with DoT on my assassin.
    but im a dirty CSer and dont need the HP or pdef (ask twsted)
    i want the 56 attack levels. and with 4 APS base, demon chill gives you 3.33 APS (yeah, demon spark and chill, pretty freakin sweet)


    so......that 24+30+5(nirvana pants and top add 5 attack level,for those that dont know)=55 attack level.

    .......may be cheaper to CS a warsoul weapon than rank 8............
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide wrote: »
    im going with DoT on my assassin.
    but im a dirty CSer and dont need the HP or pdef (ask twsted)
    i want the 56 attack levels. and with 4 APS base, demon chill gives you 3.33 APS (yeah, demon spark and chill, pretty freakin sweet)


    so......that 24+30+5(nirvana pants and top add 5 attack level,for those that dont know)=55 attack level.

    .......may be cheaper to CS a warsoul weapon than rank 8............

    In the end, you are still just a fish.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide wrote: »
    im going with DoT on my assassin.
    but im a dirty CSer and dont need the HP or pdef (ask twsted)
    i want the 56 attack levels. and with 4 APS base, demon chill gives you 3.33 APS (yeah, demon spark and chill, pretty freakin sweet)


    so......that 24+30+5(nirvana pants and top add 5 attack level,for those that dont know)=55 attack level.

    .......may be cheaper to CS a warsoul weapon than rank 8............

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  • OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide
    OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Unashamed CSer... We are not impressed; we still hate your kind.
    (Even though I'm a mild CSer myself. It's hard not to CS just a little in this game if you have any sort of real life x3)

    im sorry, should i deny spending money on the game? it isnt that im unashamed, i see no point in trying to lie about what ive spent. oh anf just cuz i CSd doesnt mean i dont know how to play my class, i just had some help getting me gear. but feel free to cry some more brah
  • LeiMai - Raging Tide
    LeiMai - Raging Tide Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    so at the end of this all...

    garnet gems are better than diamond of tiger in weapons
    +10 vit is better than citrine gems or jade of steady defence (+1/+2 Def)?
  • OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide
    OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    LeiMai - Raging Tide wrote: »
    so at the end of this all...

    garnet gems are better than diamond of tiger in weapons
    +10 vit is better than citrine gems or jade of steady defence (+1/+2 Def)?

    yes! and dont forget that Diamond of tiger is better than vit stones in armor
  • nhake
    nhake Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    OptimusRhyme - Raging Tide wrote: »
    yes! and dont forget that Diamond of tiger is better than vit stones in armor

    Not if you have under 13k hp unbuffed.

    When it comes to the jades, same goes if you already have 13k unbuffed go with jades. DoT are just blah and don't give you any wiggle room when it comes to pk or instances. Some can do 3-3 with DoT but I say they will die a lot more then me. b:laugh
  • /zus - Dreamweaver74
    /zus - Dreamweaver74 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Thx for the info all. And sry bit late on replying.

    Now i just got a question, are Vit stones better than HP gems(not shards). I see alot of sins with vit stones. Vit stones in all gears gives 200 vit+.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Sin gets 13 HP per VIT so each VIT stone gives you 130 hp and some extra def. Citrine gem gives less HP and no def.

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