If you could change one aspect of Perfect World...
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remove the crafting system. its bs and utterly boring/pointless.0
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i would remove refines. make pvp more balanced-retired-
now playing megaten and...Forsaken World
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*removed*0
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Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »Even allowing Gold Trading in AH is basically what it does... you sell gold, get coins, buy power/mats/whatever with the coins. Thus buy power with $$$$.
while this is true it is also true that when this happens the people that farmed the mats they are buying are making a profit and thus getting what they need as well. with the pack thing these new mats and gear are just coming out of no where.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »I'd remove gambling from this game:
No anni/coral/tiger/whatever packs.
No battle pet packs (= no legendary pets).
No dyes dropping randomly. You could go and buy all colors you want straightforward from Boutique.
I would reduce all of the wizards spells damage by 33% and throw to a black hole jone's blessing.0 -
Take out the ability to buy end game gear...
Add, blood guts an gore!b:victory0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »I would have changed the ability to directly buy gear with cash shop items. It's sensible to give people a bonus for their financial contributions. Charms, refine aids, mounts, all trinkets that help make the game easier but have no effect on the balance of the overall game.JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Charms, refine aids, mounts,
/facepalmJanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »refine aids
how is that any different than buying gear and power?0 -
BecauseBorsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »/facepalm
how is that any different than buying gear and power?
1) You aren't directly buying gear. It still has to be attained.
2) There has to be an incentive to buy things. I wonder what your philosophy is besides facepalming.
Edit: Oh, I see your idea now, removing gold from the AH. Stupid idea. All that would do is make a black market for selling gold for RL cash from separate websites. Good luck with that working.0 -
Ninjaaaa - Lost City wrote: »remove hyper stones , Veno Bramble , and the Glitch on Sin Male when wareing a pants fashion there is a hole its embarrasing omg i wisht hey just fix that glitch b:shutup
OMFG. This....
It's not only to males. It happens on my Veno while I'm wearing my Vixen Wrap... The hole appears on the dress only when I'm on the ground though, if I fly or ride my mount, it won't show, which is interesting.
This is not the biggest issue in the game though that needs to be removed. For me, I'd mostly never want packs to be in the game..[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Sorry I just don't see a difference between a +10 TT99 and a nirvana +0 which does even less damage. I think you're kinda buying gear power directly aren't you.JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Because
1) You aren't directly buying gear. It still has to be attained.
2) There has to be an incentive to buy things. I wonder what your philosophy is besides facepalming.
You do not need refining aids to make a profit from this game. Neither do you need packs. But, oh well, you are being selective. Obviously both may add profit (especially 2nd one due to its gambling nature), so does that make them both ok? Explain your selective reasoning why one is better than another or buying gear together altogether.
After all that's an "incentive" too right?
Why not? Make it like event gold, or some fixed NPC conversion. i.e supply of gold for free-to-play players not from cash shoppers.JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Edit: Oh, I see your idea now, removing gold from the AH. Stupid idea. All that would do is make a black market for selling gold for RL cash from separate websites. Good luck with that working.
And there's no reason black market would exist less or more then... they can always sell for cheaper or more bang for your buck. Fail argument really.0 -
No, buying upgrades is not buying gear. Buying gear is buying gear. Unfortunate that you cannot comprehend the very clear distinction. Upgrading weapons is a very clear profit for the company hence why d.orb sales are very successful, as well as other refine chance bonuses. D.orbs =/= gear. You kinda have to get the actual gear first in order to refine it.. duh. Packs are obviously profitable but the issue with packs for me (maybe you forgot in responding to me that this is my personal issue with the game and packs, not yours) is that one can buy gold outright and get gear that should take time to farm. Aids in refining or aids in helping stay alive a little longer is not going to break the game like packs have being able to get gear directly from them.Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »Sorry I just don't see a difference between a +10 TT99 and a nirvana +0 which does even less damage. I think you're kinda buying gear power directly aren't you.
You do not need refining aids to make a profit from this game. Neither do you need packs. But, oh well, you are being selective. Obviously both may add profit (especially 2nd one due to its gambling nature), so does that make them both ok? Explain your selective reasoning why one is better than another or buying gear together altogether.
After all that's an "incentive" too right?
Why not? Make it like event gold, or some fixed NPC conversion. i.e supply of gold for free-to-play players not from cash shoppers.
And there's no reason black market would exist less or more then... they can always sell for cheaper or more bang for your buck. Fail argument really.
And you have no clue as to what a black market is, that much is clear. I have an idea. Go play SRO. Then get back to me as to what a black market is (you'll find out very quickly when they spam towns with gold buying websites) and why connecting game currency to real currency is a good idea in stifling in game currency on the black market. This happens with every single game that does not connect virtual currency to real currency. There is going to be profit with it anyways, it might as well be for the company that makes the game instead of someone else who is likely not invested in the game being successful. It was my job to analyze competitors in this very industry that I worked for, so kinda hard to try and BS me on this one.0 -
Even though I have a sin and a physcic...
Remove the tideborn
No rubberbanding
Fix the drop rates in certain instances
and.....[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=8679220 -
Sorry... what? Isn't nirvana upgrading your TT99 or lunar? What about 2nd recast? So you're ok with rapture chests? Uncanny chests? Seriously? What about buying them directly? b:byeJanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »No, buying upgrades is not buying gear. Buying gear is buying gear. Unfortunate that you cannot comprehend the very clear distinction. Upgrading weapons is a very clear profit for the company hence why d.orb sales are very successful, as well as other refine chance bonuses. D.orbs =/= gear. You kinda have to get the actual gear first in order to refine it.. duh. Packs are obviously profitable but the issue with packs for me (maybe you forgot in responding to me that this is my personal issue with the game and packs, not yours) is that one can buy gold outright and get gear that should take time to farm. Aids in refining or aids in helping stay alive a little longer is not going to break the game like packs have being able to get gear directly from them.
How is that any different than "farming" for Dragon Orbs instead of having to purchase them from boutique? Why not just clump nirvana crystals in the cash shop while we're at it. And don't even make them drop from nirvana.
Say, gold on AH is ~350k at the moment.JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »And you have no clue as to what a black market is, that much is clear. I have an idea. Go play SRO. Then get back to me as to what a black market is (you'll find out very quickly when they spam towns with gold buying websites) and why connecting game currency to real currency is a good idea in stifling in game currency on the black market. This happens with every single game that does not connect virtual currency to real currency. There is going to be profit with it anyways, it might as well be for the company that makes the game instead of someone else who is likely not invested in the game being successful. It was my job to analyze competitors in this very industry that I worked for, so kinda hard to try and BS me on this one.
Gold spammers in black market will advertise for 800k a buck.
And yes I've seen gold sellers btw a few times. The reason they are rarely might be completely different, however. RoM was much fuller of bots and black market sellers and it had an auction-trade system for diamonds (without any fee might I add!) so yes I know what I'm talking about. b:bye
But then again there's hardly any botters here, and no pwi hasn't done anything to prevent that... your assumption that the gold trading in AH is what prevents it is not really accurate. Chinese servers are full of bots and gold sellers and stuff like that. Idk what makes them not attracted to these servers, fortunately.0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »What would it be? This can be any one thing. No Warsoul weapons, no 5 aps, no Twilight Temple, no Assassins, no Expel: whatever you choose. I'm just curious to see what people want to get rid of the most.
EDIT: Title should say "if you could REMOVE one aspect," not change.
have u banned...0 -
Those had nothing to do with packs. I haven't played for nearly a month now but I'm pretty sure packs haven't yet come with a chance of attaining Nirvana gear, and rap/canny chests are upgrades, just like d.orbs. I don't think you even understand what you're arguing anymore as you've deviated so far away from what you responded to it seems you're just replying to argue.. whatever the hell it is you're arguing.Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »Sorry... what? Isn't nirvana upgrading your TT99 or lunar? What about 2nd recast? So you're ok with rapture chests? Uncanny chests? Seriously? What about buying them directly? b:bye
Dragon orbs are upgrades, not gear itself. I don't wield a dragon orb, nor do I wear a dragon orb. It's not gear. How many times does that need to be explained? Having upgrades for gear isn't an issue at all for the cash shop. They have to make money somehow, and the post you responded to, which I doubt you even remember anymore, iterated that it would be significantly different if packs didn't outright come with gear.How is that any different than "farming" for Dragon Orbs instead of having to purchase them from boutique? Why not just clump nirvana crystals in the cash shop while we're at it. And don't even make them drop from nirvana.
^-- made up numbers.Say, gold on AH is ~350k at the moment.
Gold spammers in black market will advertise for 800k a buck.
Gold sells for what people will buy it for. It's standard old school non-Keynesian economics. Two people involved in the transaction, the buyer and seller, and a crapload of competitors. That's not the case when there's no in-game connection between real world currency (dollars, euros, pesos, pounds, yen, w/e) and virtual currency (zen/gold/coins via AH), so they get away with selling virtual currency for as much dollars as their stranglehold on the black market is, which is a ****-ton, which justifies the type of farming bots the China version has. Ding ding ding! We have a winner. The reason there is no bots here is because there's no demand. Their resources are best in a game where there is no direct in-game connection between virtual and real currency.
There doesn't have to be botters. There just has to be no connection at all between real currency and virtual currency, which justifies people in 3rd world countries willing to spend hours at the computer farming for **** people will pay real money for. While there are indeed botters who farm for gold, this is apples and oranges. So many people like you are clueless as to why being able to trade virtual and real currency through the AH is a blessing.And yes I've seen gold sellers btw a few times. The reason they are rarely might be completely different, however. RoM was much fuller of bots and black market sellers and it had an auction-trade system for diamonds (without any fee might I add!) so yes I know what I'm talking about. b:bye
But then again there's hardly any botters here, and no pwi hasn't done anything to prevent that... your assumption that the gold trading in AH is what prevents it is not really accurate. Chinese servers are full of bots and gold sellers and stuff like that. Idk what makes them not attracted to these servers, fortunately.
Then you haven't the slightest clue as to how the flying hell PWI is supposed to make the profit it does. I suppose they let people farm everything they get -- charms, packs, orbs, mounts, legendary pets, and so on. That way it can be a player's wet dream -- a shut down server due to not being able to run it as it costs money for the server, to maintain it, to hire people to work for the game to develop, to publish, to moderate imbecilic know-nothings who seem to think they know how to run a game from a logical mixed perspective from company and player. Unless you've got some revelation instead of a bunch of silly nonsense to spout, it isn't worth typing up another response to someone who I guarantee never worked for this industry let alone know how they prevent the type of botters who thrive on black market currency trade. b:bye0 -
*drops kicks Pot out of forums*Pot_Head - Harshlands wrote: »have u banned...
Oh....you meant Longknife.
b:sad Whoops. No more troll.
@ Loki: /sadface
I thought you loved me. 0 -
Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »*drops kicks Pot out of forums*
Oh....you meant Longknife.
b:sad Whoops. No more troll.
@ Loki: /sadface I thought you loved me.
I will get on angarika and pk you >:O0 -
Pot_Head - Harshlands wrote: »I will get on angarika and pk you >:O
At this point anga, Sins don't worry me unless they're 9x or above. :P you don't scare meh.
You also don't scare apple. b:chuckle0 -
Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »At this point anga, Sins don't worry me unless they're 9x or above. :P you don't scare meh.
You also don't scare apple. b:chuckle
apple almost got dropped by that boss over by etherblade for Tideborn quest >:O
and well um ya I'm alot more better then some 9x sins u know that
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Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »*drops kicks Pot out of forums*
Oh....you meant Longknife.
b:sad Whoops. No more troll.
@ Loki: /sadface I thought you loved me.
Yea well your married... so if I can't have you just get rid of yab:angryb:bye
b:chuckle jk....
If something like that were to happen (I know it won't)
I would say offer everyone with a tideborn a new toon of same lvl of there choosing and equivalent gear.... But thats just me[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=8679220 -
the Manageri like potato0
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*rolls eyes* It's not like my husband's ever on.LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »Yea well your married... so if I can't have you just get rid of yab:angryb:bye0 -
So you are ok with packs containing rapture chests? b:questionJanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Those had nothing to do with packs. I haven't played for nearly a month now but I'm pretty sure packs haven't yet come with a chance of attaining Nirvana gear, and rap/canny chests are upgrades, just like d.orbs. I don't think you even understand what you're arguing anymore as you've deviated so far away from what you responded to it seems you're just replying to argue.. whatever the hell it is you're arguing.
What about gems you get from packs? Are those not "upgrading" gear?
So now not even gems should be farmable in rebirth, I guess...
Explain your reasoning. I find it highly an issue when a cash shopper does more damage than me, I don't care how he has done it. Bought gear, "upgraded" gear, sold gold and bought gear, I don't care. I don't give a **** if he has different gear or same gear but upgraded. Is there a difference gameplay wise?JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Dragon orbs are upgrades, not gear itself. I don't wield a dragon orb, nor do I wear a dragon orb. It's not gear. How many times does that need to be explained? Having upgrades for gear isn't an issue at all for the cash shop.
They have to make money somehow? Well, why be selective then. Oh wait, they aren't. They have both types in cash shop... an ***-kisser will obviously love both, hypocrites will be selective, and people like me will want none of it.
Huh? A gold farmer gets coins for free (botting is free, basically). He can sell at a price above of what players demand for gold. Simply because it's free.JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Gold sells for what people will buy it for. It's standard old school non-Keynesian economics. Two people involved in the transaction, the buyer and seller, and a crapload of competitors. That's not the case when there's no in-game connection between real world currency (dollars, euros, pesos, pounds, yen, w/e) and virtual currency (zen/gold/coins via AH), so they get away with selling virtual currency for as much dollars as their stranglehold on the black market is, which is a ****-ton, which justifies the type of farming bots the China version has. Ding ding ding! We have a winner. The reason there is no bots here is because there's no demand. Their resources are best in a game where there is no direct in-game connection between virtual and real currency.
Obviously a gold seller wants the highest price and the gold buyer wants the lowest price. But when your coin income is free, you can put it up above the competition who doesn't get it for free (aka normal players) so that people buying coins would choose you over the AH trading.
It's pretty simple. Supply and demand works when both are limited. When supply is free (of either gold or coins) black market can exist in theory (of course, as long as people create one to begin with, not all games attract botters).
No, because you're a freaking selective moron. They make money with packs. By your idiotic logic they are all fine and dandy. You say they should make money, yet you don't like buying gear.JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Then you haven't the slightest clue as to how the flying hell PWI is supposed to make the profit it does. I suppose they let people farm everything they get -- charms, packs, orbs, mounts, legendary pets, and so on. That way it can be a player's wet dream -- a shut down server due to not being able to run it as it costs money for the server, to maintain it, to hire people to work for the game to develop, to publish, to moderate imbecilic know-nothings who seem to think they know how to run a game from a logical mixed perspective from company and player. Unless you've got some revelation instead of a bunch of silly nonsense to spout, it isn't worth typing up another response to someone who I guarantee never worked for this industry let alone know how they prevent the type of botters who thrive on black market currency trade. b:bye
I say they should make money, but I don't like upgrading gear because it's the same as buying power. What makes you think you make any more sense since it all breaks down to buying power? Of course they are out there for the money -- I WILL complain about it, however. I don't give a rat's *** what you consider the cash shop as being good or not -- what ever happened to the "convenience only" formula that all interviewers get as an answer.
So if you are going to admit that they're in for the money and not bash them, then shut the **** up about packs or any other cash shop complaints because your idiotic selective about "upgrading" and "buying gear" has no logical basis and is the same thing: buying power.
You only make yourself look like a hypocrite bashing one thing while admitting the other has to be in "to make money". Where do we draw the line? Why not make money from both as PWE has clearly done? Why only one and not the other?
You buy power with both aka pay2win. End of story. At least I'm not a hypocrite even if unrealistic.0 -
Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »*rolls eyes* It's not like my husband's ever on.
you're pretty easyb:embarrass0 -
Pot_Head - Harshlands wrote: »you're pretty easyb:embarrass
I was stating a fact. .-. Jeeze. Don't be so desperate! b:shocked0 -
Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »I was stating a fact. .-. Jeeze. Don't be so desperate! b:shocked
who is the one desperate here >.>0 -
Pot_Head - Harshlands wrote: »who is the one desperate here >.>
I'm not desperate....I'm married. b:chuckle0 -
Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »I'm not desperate....I'm married. b:chuckle
ZIIING!!!!!b:beatenupb:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=8679220 -
It's kinda hard to put this in simple terms for you to understand, and there's no crayon font to make it maybe colorful and large enough for you to read, so I'll try one more time.Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »So you are ok with packs containing rapture chests? b:question
What about gems you get from packs? Are those not "upgrading" gear?
So now not even gems should be farmable in rebirth, I guess...
Explain your reasoning. I find it highly an issue when a cash shopper does more damage than me, I don't care how he has done it. Bought gear, "upgraded" gear, sold gold and bought gear, I don't care. I don't give a **** if he has different gear or same gear but upgraded. Is there a difference gameplay wise?
They have to make money somehow? Well, why be selective then. Oh wait, they aren't. They have both types in cash shop... an ***-kisser will obviously love both, hypocrites will be selective, and people like me will want none of it.
Huh? A gold farmer gets coins for free (botting is free, basically). He can sell at a price above of what players demand for gold. Simply because it's free.
Obviously a gold seller wants the highest price and the gold buyer wants the lowest price. But when your coin income is free, you can put it up above the competition who doesn't get it for free (aka normal players) so that people buying coins would choose you over the AH trading.
It's pretty simple. Supply and demand works when both are limited. When supply is free (of either gold or coins) black market can exist in theory (of course, as long as people create one to begin with, not all games attract botters).
No, because you're a freaking selective moron. They make money with packs. By your idiotic logic they are all fine and dandy. You say they should make money, yet you don't like buying gear.
I say they should make money, but I don't like upgrading gear because it's the same as buying power. What makes you think you make any more sense since it all breaks down to buying power? Of course they are out there for the money -- I WILL complain about it, however. I don't give a rat's *** what you consider the cash shop as being good or not -- what ever happened to the "convenience only" formula that all interviewers get as an answer.
So if you are going to admit that they're in for the money and not bash them, then shut the **** up about packs or any other cash shop complaints because your idiotic selective about "upgrading" and "buying gear" has no logical basis and is the same thing: buying power.
You only make yourself look like a hypocrite bashing one thing while admitting the other has to be in "to make money". Where do we draw the line? Why not make money from both as PWE has clearly done? Why only one and not the other?
You buy power with both aka pay2win. End of story. At least I'm not a hypocrite even if unrealistic.
Following along? You can't upgrade gear you don't have. In order to get gear in the first place, then, you'd have to actually farm it, or pay the price in coins. You won't eliminate cash shopping for coins, ever. Don't know how often I will have to reiterate this. People will do that anyways. However, at very least they're playing in a trade system that benefits everyone who wants to participate, which is the AH. More trade going in and out of the AH means more competition which, in turn, means people get a price they will pay for it. Win/win. It's kinda hard teaching economics to someone who has an inferiority complex over others because of their gear. My purpose is actually making things worth attaining and creating a game that has more worthy long term goals for the heavy majority who won't pay up the *** for gear, not QQing because people have better gear than me like you are.
So maybe while you're still stuck back pages ago with your feeble brain trying to comprehend the bigger picture, even more-so, engaging in your usual e-peen nonsense, since it looks e-peen is the only function you have in this game, the idea is moving forward. If you can't keep up, please don't waste my time with your stupidity. I feel like I'm trying to teach a kindergarten student calculus since he can't comprehend some very obvious statements.0 -
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