Fix pk drops please <3

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  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    At least you can kill the white name and continue to kill them over and over and over to get rid of them, the blue name you can't do anything about

    yea, unless they kill u b:laugh
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    At least you can kill the white name and continue to kill them over and over and over to get rid of them, the blue name you can't do anything about

    wait till they level up, and put them on you KoS list.
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  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    wait till they level up, and put them on you KoS list.

    What if the blue name is just some random level 1 character freshly flown in from plume?

    (or ran in from ether or lost, no way in hell a level 1 from rt can make it to arch, Ill be so freaking amazed if they somehow can make it)
  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    What if the blue name is just some random level 1 character freshly flown in from plume?

    (or ran in from ether or lost, no way in hell a level 1 from rt can make it to arch, Ill be so freaking amazed if they somehow can make it)

    and if it's and alt from some high lvl and then cuz he/she was mad KoS u? or u can kill him/her (the white name) fast and take the drops u wanted? (if they add that silly thing of the timer)

    Everyone wants drops, i think that making blue name not being able to take drops will make another problem and they'll start complaing that they can't take drops and bla bla.. besides, the game is like that.. on every pw server i know it's like that, so it's not a bug or exploit
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    The rationale is, you killed that person, their drops are rightfully yours.

    In the same sense, you kill mobs and bosses, their drops are locked to you until a certain amount of time has passed.

    There's no reason why blue names should be complaining if this was fixed, unless they make a living out of hanging around west gate waiting for people to drop items.
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  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ITT: PvE people saying its not a problem since they never pk
  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ITT: PvE people saying its not a problem since they never pk

    hahahahahahahahahahahhaaha LOL b:laughb:laugh u'r funny, i come from another PW server (not private server) and i've never seen ppl QQing about drops when i pk, it's like that if u lose ur things or drops from the one u kill, bad luck.. if u can't have drops maybe one day u'll and if u lose items just be a bit smart and buy GS.
    There's no need to come to QQ on forums to say to fix someting that's not even a bug or an exploit.. imagine if ppl come and say: QQ psy don't have skills like sins that give 150 chi QQ fix it b:cry

    I can't believe high levels QQ about not getting drops -_- b:embarrass

    Any mod/dev w/e close this, ppl will never understand that there's nothing to fix in here
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    hahahahahahahahahahahhaaha LOL b:laughb:laugh u'r funny, i come from another PW server (not private server) and i've never seen ppl QQing about drops when i pk, it's like that if u lose ur things or drops from the one u kill, bad luck.. if u can't have drops maybe one day u'll and if u lose items just be a bit smart and buy GS.
    There's no need to come to QQ on forums to say to fix someting that's not even a bug or an exploit.. imagine if ppl come and say: QQ psy don't have skills like sins that give 150 chi QQ fix it b:cry

    I can't believe high levels QQ about not getting drops -_- b:embarrass

    Any mod/dev w/e close this, ppl will never understand that there's nothing to fix in here

    Reading how you spell makes my eyes bleed.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Isn't you know... the whole point of a ranged class to kill from far away?

    Typically, but if you want the drops you have to attack from close range. If you are afraid of dying then you simply have to either get better gear or learn how to handle yourself when you do NOT have the advantage.

    Unless things get changed this is the only way to make sure you get the drops.
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  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Reading how you spell makes my eyes bleed.

    LOL! You'r so funny guy/girl, my eyes bleed when i read that you'r crying cuz you can't get drops b:laughb:mischievous
    If someone else complain about "how do i spell" i'll worry about it. But not from someone who is lvl 94 and complain that he can get drops... lol? it was like this since 2 years and never change, why change? cuz high levels complain on forum? LOL

    Leave it like this and let the thread die with the time, nothing will ever change.... it's useless to continue writing... and if you don't like this thing that you can get drops, go to another game
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    What if the blue name is just some random level 1 character freshly flown in from plume? (or ran in from ether or lost, no way in hell a level 1 from rt can make it to arch, Ill be so freaking amazed if they somehow can make it)

    just for that, i'm gonna have to make a lv1 psychic and go for a long swim now. i did it on my 'sin once, just because i was insanely bored, but he was lv19 at the time. didn't run into anything aggressive though, so i bet i could do it on a lv1 too if i was careful.

    (trying to go overland from, say, dreamweaver though? no freaking way, if you meant that, then you're right - that'd be hopeless.)
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  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    LOL! You'r so funny guy/girl, my eyes bleed when i read that you'r crying cuz you can't get drops b:laughb:mischievous
    If someone else complain about "how do i spell" i'll worry about it. But not from someone who is lvl 94 and complain that he can get drops... lol? it was like this since 2 years and never change, why change? cuz high levels complain on forum? LOL

    Leave it like this and let the thread die with the time, nothing will ever change.... it's useless to continue writing... and if you don't like this thing that you can get drops, go to another game

    Let me put it this way.

    Why should people other than you and your squadmates be able to pick up your loot?

    A good, logical reason that isn't just "that's just how the game works".
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Why should people other than you and your squadmates be able to pick up your loot?

    A good, logical reason that isn't just "that's just how the game works".
    Define "your" loot first.
  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Let me put it this way.

    Why should people other than you and your squadmates be able to pick up your loot?

    A good, logical reason that isn't just "that's just how the game works".

    It's simple, when you drop something those items aren't yours anymore and since they don't say it belongs to the person who killed you, it means is free for everyone else.. i know that when u kill someone everyone else can take the drops, but it doesn't say it belong to you.
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Define "your" loot first.

    "Your" defined the same way it is with mobs.
    It's simple, when you drop something those items aren't yours anymore and since they don't say it belongs to the person who killed you, it means is free for everyone else.. i know that when u kill someone everyone else can take the drops, but it doesn't say it belong to you.

    When you kill mobs and they drop items, they don't have your name on it either. But it's locked to you for a certain amount of time before it's free for all. Why doesn't this same concept apply to PK drops?
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  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    When you kill mobs and they drop items, they don't have your name on it either. But it's locked to you for a certain amount of time before it's free for all. Why doesn't this same concept apply to PK drops?

    dunno, ask the Devs xD.. maybe they don't see it like a real problem
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    LOL! You'r so funny guy/girl, my eyes bleed when i read that you'r crying cuz you can't get drops b:laughb:mischievous
    If someone else complain about "how do i spell" i'll worry about it. But not from someone who is lvl 94 and complain that he can get drops... lol? it was like this since 2 years and never change, why change? cuz high levels complain on forum? LOL

    Leave it like this and let the thread die with the time, nothing will ever change.... it's useless to continue writing... and if you don't like this thing that you can get drops, go to another game

    Im not crying about that, I am supporting the OP who is complaining how it is broken that blue names are allowed to steal pk drops when they don't even possess the ability to pk themselves that is the issue, so go spell like a 2 year old in your own little corner. As a side note, what does me being level 94 have anything to do with anything?
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    "Your" defined the same way it is with mobs.
    I believe this has been addressed before. Let's just say mobs aren't charmed and mobs rarely heal themselves... oh and mobs don't try to exploit the mechanics.
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I believe this has been addressed before. Let's just say mobs aren't charmed and mobs rarely heal themselves... oh and mobs don't try to exploit the mechanics.

    Now that you mention it, I remember something about charms and heals being brought up. Don't recall anything about exploiting mechanics though.

    But regardless, those things can't excuse blue names, so I don't really see the logic behind blue names being able to pick up pk drops.
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  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Im not crying about that, I am supporting the OP who is complaining how it is broken that blue names are allowed to steal pk drops when they don't even possess the ability to pk themselves that is the issue, so go spell like a 2 year old in your own little corner. As a side note, what does me being level 94 have anything to do with anything?

    Nothing is broken, it isn't a bug or something like that, blue name where able to take drop before you started playing. And if you know how to read you will see what i meant with de lvl 94

    Like the smile says, better..b:shutupb:quiet
  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Now that you mention it, I remember something about charms and heals being brought up. Don't recall anything about exploiting mechanics though.

    But regardless, those things can't excuse blue names, so I don't really see the logic behind blue names being able to pick up pk drops.

    They can add the timer for pk loot, but still if you'r slow to get drops it will be useless and if they put that blue names can't pick up loot, then white names will start taking loot. Also on pk, there's always like 5 ppl near the one that's going to die. If you kill white names, the pk could possible kill you. Maybe if the pk die white names will get drop before you can kill them.
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Nothing is broken, it isn't a bug or something like that, blue name where able to take drop before you started playing. And if you know how to read you will see what i meant with de lvl 94

    Like the smile says, better..b:shutupb:quiet

    Says the level 72, you have no idea when I started playing, this isn't my original main, ijs
  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Says the level 72, you have no idea when I started playing, this isn't my original main, ijs

    Man, stop drinking and leave drugsb:shocked

    First: i don't care when you started playing and whose your original main
    Second: like i say, leave drugs and stop drinking bad for your health, i didn't mean anything with your main or at what date you started playing :S
    Third: READ, i was talking that BLUE NAMES where able to pick up drops BEFORE you started playing. This means that before you started playing blue names already exist on the server and maybe they got some drops.

    Again, READ. I won't reply to you since it's useless and it's like talking to a baby (you'll never understand)b:sweat
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Man, stop drinking and leave drugsb:shocked

    First: i don't care when you started playing and whose your original main
    Second: like i say, leave drugs and stop drinking bad for your health, i didn't mean anything with your main or at what date you started playing :S
    Third: READ, i was talking that BLUE NAMES where able to pick up drops BEFORE you started playing. This means that before you started playing blue names already exist on the server and maybe they got some drops.

    Again, READ. I won't reply to you since it's useless and it's like talking to a baby (you'll never understand)b:sweat

    Like you agreed before, there seems to be no logical reason supporting blue names' ability to pick up PK drops. There is, however, a logical reason to remove this capability from their repertoire. This is what people are trying to suggest. The removal of their ability to pick up pk drops.

    Whether it's part of the game or a bug is irrelevant.
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  • Oneji - Heavens Tear
    Oneji - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I understand the OP's post, but your reasoning behind why you want it "fixed", does not justify why it should be quote "fixed".

    First off, PK mode was designed to allow players to engage in friendly, or not so friendlyb:shocked,combat in which unlike a duel, the person can literally die. Now that is the number one reason I believe PK mode was implemented into this specific game.

    Second, if you read the fine print in the help section of your PWI UI, you will see there is a PK section. After reading it you will begin to realize that in PK Mode you can drop your gear based on percentages(white named,pink named,light red-blood red). Dropping your gear is the result of being in PK Mode and being killed.

    Third, If you read through the help section on PK Mode, you will clearly see that dropping gear in PK is not a reward, in fact quote "The punishment for death when your name is red is far more severe...". This should immediately tell you that if you should PK someone, and they so happen to drop lets say a Warsoul of Earth, it is a punishment, or penalty of being in PK Mode. Meaning if a level 20 gets it well, that is that. It never stated that when you PK someone the item dropped is a reward. So if something drops, it is free game for all.

    But PWI has made a way for players to get around this. Of course I am talking about Safety Lock and Or, Guardian Scrolls.

    Now a question does come to mind though, why is it when someone drops mirage stones, or other kinds of chi stones, there is a timer on them, meaning only you can pick them up in the technical senseb:question. Does this imply that Chi Stone drops, and Mirage Stone drops are a reward for you? You could try to argue yes, but based on what PWI has written in their help section it proves no, and that is what I believe personally.


    So in conclusion, PWI does not need to "fix" anything according to your post, because as I said earlier on,nowhere is it stated that "if you PK someone and they drop and item, it is a reward". In fact, put in to context the system is working perfectly as it should.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Personally, I'd think PK drops should be treated like mob drops: Only ther person who killed you or those in your/their squad should be able to pick it up for the first bit, after which it becomes free for all.

    I'm one of those folks who will normally return PK drops to someone, so at times killing someone on a ranged class makes that kinda difficult if someone's standing around them nearby.
  • Falcus - Heavens Tear
    Falcus - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Player killers crying about losing loot to players smart enough to get the area and be un Pk'able

    Is someone actually that senseless, Almost makes me wanna come back and create a new toon to rob you guys.......almost

    Thanks for the laughs, Killers complaining about thieves ......Priceless
  • Martincho - Heavens Tear
    Martincho - Heavens Tear Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Now a question does come to mind though, why is it when someone drops mirage stones, or other kinds of chi stones, there is a timer on them, meaning only you can pick them up in the technical senseb:question. Does this imply that Chi Stone drops, and Mirage Stone drops are a reward for you? You could try to argue yes, but based on what PWI has written in their help section it proves no, and that is what I believe personally.

    This, ppl never complain about blue names picking up those drops (Mirage Stone, Chi Stone, mp Herb, etc etc) they only complain when they weren't able to pick TT gear or any other expensive item. So this thing about blue names stealing drops it's because pk couldn't pick expensive stuff from what i see everyday.
  • starfever
    starfever Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Player killers crying about losing loot to players smart enough to get the area and be un Pk'able

    Is someone actually that senseless, Almost makes me wanna come back and create a new toon to rob you guys.......almost

    Thanks for the laughs, Killers complaining about thieves ......Priceless

    +1

    Good to know I'm not the only one enjoying the irony of this thread b:laugh
  • Deora - Lost City
    Deora - Lost City Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ITT: PvE Carebears saying that this shouldn't be fixed so they can continue taking drops from people that drop things w/o having to make a new level 1 character to be blue like real servers works