Effective Health calculator

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

nah, thats too easy for you b:chuckle i know, how you archers love to struggle with equations on paper to count anything

cant take all that fun from u guys

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

edit:

friend suggested to write some introducion for people who arent familiar with 'Effective HP 'terms.

let me know if this is still not clear. english isnt my strongest point b:surrender

NightRage - Raging Tide

Fallghost - Raging Tide wrote: »

Forum =/= game

These forums are fun,while this game is dead.

Get off my jock.

Ilenka - Harshlands

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

nah, thats too easy for you b:chuckle i know, how you archers love to struggle with equations on paper to count anything

cant take all that fun from u guys

Im an archer.... this is sweet.... and omg yesh! i love it

i always knew citrines were the best!!!!!! b:victory

ClericMD - Lost City

Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »

soo after testing.. even with the extra 60% from lvl 10 vanguard AND the fact that garnets add more def than citrines add health... its apparently STILLbetter to use citrines for physical def survivability.



and given the nature of more hp they work with magic too. so citrines win no contest


soo.. that kinda surprised me.

i thought garents would be better than cirtines in armor for at least physical def...

I learn that went i expend a looooot of money in phsyca def shars and see that i only win 10% of phsycal damage reduction b:surrender, citrines for win.

BTW nice tool you put here.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

Ilenka - Harshlands wrote: »

Im an archer.... this is sweet.... and omg yesh! i love it

i always knew citrines were the best!!!!!! b:victory

uhh, that dont have to be truth. thats why it s good to check it actually b:chuckle

Kataguruma - Harshlands

REally nice tool seriously! I tried to find a good calculator, than you come up with this! This is awesome!
Can we have this to be sticked? I think a lot of player may use it!

Keliska - Raging Tide

((Move:Bump))

I believe this is what I been looking for, got to wait until tomorrow to find out.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

fixed minor error in LoS Calc. Now it truncate decimals in damage value.

im not really sure if game does same, but it is just 'cosmetic fix'

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

seems that many people dont understand how defense works, so i decided to add new values to this Calc

Total Physical Damage Reduction and Total Magic Damage Reduction will show how much base damage will be reduced by every stat that affect it i.e. p.def. p.dmg reduce, def lvls, attack lvls, lvl difference or even blue ball.

important fact is that all those values are multipliers in damage equation - which means that their order doesnt matter.


anyway, this isnt big update. TDR is pretty much same thing like DEF-E, just shown in different way.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

another fix b:surrender

i just noticed that i wrongly counted multiple amplifiers


btw confirmed this calc's accuracy for melee dmg in pve and pve, against enemy on same level (less than 0.5% error)

cant still confirm magic damage behavior in 100% (1%+ error)

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

there was bug in EHP magic equation in last downloadable file b:shutup

redownload plz

Fleuri - Sanctuary

Is your evasion formula right? I know you just have that for pve and not pvp, but I was still curious.

(In other words, does the defender always have level 25 for the purposes of evasion where the attacker always has their own level?)

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

it is not my formula. it is asterelle's (i believe)

and it works for pve and pvp

it should be accurate, but it is not confirmed.


chance to evade% depends only on attacker's level and his accuracy, and your evasion. '25' number there is just default multiplier (and yes, it is always same)

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

The evasion formula someone posted randomly in the archer forums a while ago but I don't know anyone who has verified it. The original form that was posted was:

evasiveness = 1000*evasion / accuracy
evasion% = evasiveness / (40* level + evasiveness)

I combined those two into:

evasion% = 25* evasion / (level*accuracy + 25*evasion)

While it hasn't been verified or tested it does have the feature of becoming less viable at higher levels which most people agree is true.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

there was bug in EHP magic equation in last downloadable file b:shutup

redownload plz

i re-uploaded old file then..

fixed now...


re-download plz ._.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

btw i added new paragraph: 'Defense mechanics'.

I think it is more.. smart now. Correct me if there is something wrong

HP gems (citrine or vit) and refining gives fixed amount of HP (i.e. one flawless citrine +40hp). More HP you have - less will your survivability gain from another shard or refine i.e. 40hp added to 1000HP increases it by 4%, but added to 4000HP - just by 1%.

Physical and magic defense act in similar way: defense increase DEF-E by fixed amount (however, level of attacker is important here) i.e. you will always again +0,25 DEF-E from every +1000 magic or physical def. points, if attacker is 100lvl (higher level means smaller gain).
Just like in HP case: more defense you have - less will your survivability gain from another p.def or m.def added.

Defense levels work in same way, but level of attacker doesnt matter i.e. +0.24 DEF-E from 20 def. levels above enemy attack level.
There are two separate equations; one when your def. lvl > enemy attack lvl, and second - when your def. lvl < enemy attack lvl. Firstly, equation substract attack levels from defense levels, then remaining defense levels give damage reduction.
This also means that more defense levels you have - smaller survivability gain will be.

Keep in mind that damage formula is bunch of multipliers, so defense, defense levels and bonus damage reduction (and also HP for final EHP result) will affect each other. Alone, from 1000 m.def you would get +0.25 DEF-E, from 20 def.levels +0.24 DEF-E, but together - they will give +0.55 DEF-E.


EHP and DEF-E equations will help you to find out which type of stat (hp, def or def levels - or mix) will be most 'profitable' to build up. Focusing only on one of survivability factors (hp, def or def lvls) will usually give less effective results.

LXianghual - Heavens Tear

I have just noticed that there is a small mistake on line 115:
"i.e. two builds one with 2000 EHPaPD and 10000 EHPaMD, and second - 3000 EHPaPD, 4000 EHaMD will have same General EHP = 6000."

I think it should say something like:
"i.e. two builds one with 2000 EHPaPD and 10000 EHPaMD, and second - 3000 EHPaPD, 9000 EHaMD will have same General EHP = 6000."

It is just a minor thing, but I thought I'd point it out. Nice work btw.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

oh thx

one of those errors you could look at 100 times and never notice b:chuckle

Shifong - Heavens Tear

A youtube link?

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

yeah, im rage-quiting b:pleased

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

yeah, im rage-quiting b:pleased

gimme that spreadsheet!!! QQQQ
(or ur oht top)

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

gave it to someone already

and check ur pm


btw shame they didnt wait with this maint 2-3 more days. i got def equations from ecatomb (thx eca btw) and i could finish this sheet

no desire to do it now :P