"Freedom" vs. CoC

mogwai
mogwai Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2010 in General Discussion
Taken from PWI wiki, please pay attention to the last line...

"Bidding

Any willing and capable faction can bid on any opposing territory provided they have no affiliations with the current owners. The bids can only be made if the faction has a real intention of attacking and trying to win the territory. All bids must have a legitimate chance to win. This includes factions that are but is not limited to the following:

Training Wars

Practice or Training Wars are not allowed by the branch faction if the Territory is owned by an affiliated faction.

Small Factions

Factions with too few members should not bid." <--- this one


"Freedom" is steadily at 195-200 members, CoC has a guesstimated 10 members, 3 of which showed up to attack.

My question is, What happened to the TW monitoring system?
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Rogaine didn't even defend Essence attacking their land, they only had this one TW...

    Isn't that against the rules for one faction to not defend their land and to give it away?
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  • Loltank - Harshlands
    Loltank - Harshlands Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    A guild in Harshlands didn't show up to their OWN ATTACK WAR because their bid was only to skew the scheduling so two other factions would stack.

    This system is a joke.
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  • Asheera - Raging Tide
    Asheera - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Isn't that against the rules for one faction to not defend their land and to give it away?
    No.

    A faction's members are not obligated to show up on all attacks they get, it would be stupid to force them to do so.

    That sticky before, and the rules you see in this first post, is about BIDDING.

    A faction that bids MUST show up on the attack, if they don't want they should not bid.

    Moreover they should apparently bid with a small chance of winning and not "training wars" or just to **** ganks.
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No.

    A faction's members are not obligated to show up on all attacks they get, it would be stupid to force them to do so.

    That sticky before, and the rules you see in this first post, is about BIDDING.

    A faction that bids MUST show up on the attack, if they don't want they should not bid.

    Moreover they should apparently bid with a small chance of winning and not "training wars" or just to **** ganks.

    Yes, but it's very vague. It says all factions must not lose on purpose...
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yes, but it's very vague. It says all factions must not lose on purpose...

    Don't look at HT right now then. b:shutup
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  • GreatStorm - Sanctuary
    GreatStorm - Sanctuary Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Nefarious no showed 2 lands.
    Kantorek wrote: »
    Hello all,

    Here is a clarification of the Territory Wars rules in respect to what will get you banned. Just because the rewards and bidding announcements have changed, does not mean the fight has changed. Nor does this give you free reign on "fake bidding". Please be advised of these rules when participating in combat. Have fun and be safe!

    Bidding

    Any willing and capable faction can bid on any opposing territory provided they have no affiliations with the current owners. The bids can only be made if the faction has a real intention of attacking and trying to win the territory. All bids must have a legitimate chance to win. This includes factions that are but is not limited to the following:

    Training Wars

    Practice or Training Wars are not allowed by the branch faction if the Territory is owned by an affiliated faction.

    Small factions

    Factions with too few members should not bid.

    Factions with a low level average should not bid.

    Alliances

    Alliances are allowed in Territory Wars provided they are not bidding on each other others Territories.

    Alliances cannot fund directly or indirectly another faction to protect one of its own territories or that of their alliance members.

    All factions must have independent leadership

    Any collaboration before, during, or after a Territory War that tries to circumvent the fair play of the system is prohibited.

    No faction may lose on purpose or decide the victor through non in game mechanics.

    Factions that cannot abide by these rules or that of fair play should not bid as anything that constitutes fake bidding will have sever repercussions. Any user caught withholding information about possible Territory War violations will be punished along with the perpetrators. All bids will be thoroughly screened and researched by the GMs. Any behavior determined to be suspicious will require additional research were temporary bans maybe issued. Upon confirmation of the crime the faction leaders as well as the members involved will be banned at the discretion of the GM.

    Update
    For further clarification, we are by no means discouraging factions from participating in TW. The fact of the matter is, there will be factions that try to cheat the system. Honestly, most of the players who are being so nit picky about the rules, are the ones who intend to abuse them. If you think your faction has a legitimate chance to win the TW, then by all means go for it.

    We judge all TW wars on a case by case basis. Not just a concrete "If faction X has Y players, and they are attacking faction Z." Obviously a faction with less than 20 or so members with a low level average of say 30 is not going to win versus a big guild. But now what if that faction only has 20 members strong, but they're all level 60+ and are attacking a faction that has to defend a lot of territories. Maybe they think they can sneak in a win in against a weakly defended territory? We look at the data on our end and make the judgment call. This is where it becomes difficult for us to give hard numbers. The intention to win the war must always be there. It all comes to not having a built in system within the game to stop and discourage TW wars but rather monitored on the human side. As far as I know, we are the only version that polices these types of fake bids and we pride ourselves for not turning a blind eye to it.

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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    mogwai wrote: »

    Factions with too few members should not bid." <--- this one


    "Freedom" is steadily at 195-200 members, CoC has a guesstimated 10 members, 3 of which showed up to attack.

    My question is, What happened to the TW monitoring system?


    You have to submit a ticket. They dont monitor every tw bid.
  • GreatStorm - Sanctuary
    GreatStorm - Sanctuary Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You have to submit a ticket. They dont monitor every tw bid.

    actually frankie said he has gathered 2 months of TWs in the TW thread
  • Tinaaaaaa - Lost City
    Tinaaaaaa - Lost City Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Rogaine didn't even defend Essence attacking their land, they only had this one TW...

    Isn't that against the rules for one faction to not defend their land and to give it away?


    Elayne should get banned then, since it was givin to him :P b:laugh

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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Tinaaaaaa - Lost City wrote: »
    Elayne should get banned then, since it was givin to him :P b:laugh

    No, Rogaine should be banned because they no-showed. Not even a fight. b:cry
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