Fb Manners Guide

Kitkate - Dreamweaver

I have noticed a lot of issues coming up with people's manners in game, especially in fbs. Some of these issues are just accidents or you don't realize you are doing it. I just want you guys to be aware of it. We just need to pass on manners to the upcoming new players. If everyone is rude, then the game isn't fun anymore. So here are a few tips to help out with Fbs:

1. It is always good to make sure the tabber has all their quests. They are new to the game, and aren't sure if they have everything. So before you start the fb, make sure to ask if they have everything. If they don't, give them some time to grab it. Don't start killing mobs in the fb that the tabber might need. That only adds to the problem. This includes making sure they have ALL tabs. Fbs aren't a race. If you don't think you have the time for it, don't go on it.

2. The tabber asking you to go on a fb is a PRIVILEGE. Don't take the fb for granted. The tabber is allowing you to get exp, spirit, and even your bh done. Don't be rude and act like you don't want to be there. Always be polite to the tabber, even if it gets a bit annoying trying to explain something to them. Being rude also makes you look really bad. If you see another person acting up, don't feel bad about telling them to chill.

3. Once again, fbs are NOT A RACE. Do not rush through the fb. That causes the tabber to miss things. Holy pathing through the whole fb is not a good idea. The tabber may run slow and miss some of the mobs because you are running too far ahead. This also applies to bosses. Do NOT start hitting the boss until the tabber has already tabbed the pillar. That means waiting for the nice little message to pop up. This not only causes the tabber to miss out, but you will miss out on exp and spirit too. It means you just went through all that trouble of killing the boss and you get nothing for it. I understand some of you have "busy lives" in game, but that doesn't give you an excuse to mess up someone's fb.

4. Tabber and other squad members can go afk. Real life does pop up on us. Phone calls, parents, dinner, and unexpected emergencies do happen. It is nice to give a heads up before you run off and leave the squad clueless. Give them some kind of estimate about how long you will be. You can either follow another squad member or stop somewhere safe within the fb. If you end up being longer than expected afk, kindly leave the fb so that the squad can continue or grab someone else in your place.

5. This one kind of goes along with the one above. I know better than most people about disconnecting, and I know that happens. Give people enough time to log back on before finishing a fb. They helped too, and they deserve just as much exp and spirit as you do. Give someone at least 10 minutes before deciding to continue without a squad member. Technology isn't always are friend. It wont hurt you to sit for a few minutes or duel somebody til the member gets back online.

6. If the tabber misses something, and you know it was your fault, try offering to help the tabber get it done another time. If the tabber missed some mobs once all the bosses are killed, offer to find some more before just leaving the fb. I know in fb51 that you always have to go back and find more mobs after Wyvern. A few more minutes will not ruin your day.

7. If the fb isn't going well, try to find out what the problem is. If there are 4 archers in squad and your an archer too, try suggesting a cleric or other player in your spot. That many of one kind of player isn't always good unless its venos and a herc tanking or its clerics and the tabber is a barbarian. Try to suggest what might work better. Everyone's opinion is important. If one squad member is trying to rush through the fb, you got two options: First is letting them die then telling them what they did wrong, or second is you can try telling them before they die. If you are on the other end of the criticism, don't take it as a threat. Try changing up what you are doing and see if it helps. Arguing in an fb makes it hard on everyone.

8. Be aware of your squad! Just paying only attention to yourself isn't a good idea. Fb's are a group effort. GROUP, not individual. If someone accidentally pulls a mob, try to help out if you aren't really doing much. I know veno's can easily take on two mobs at once, so it shouldn't be any trouble grabbing a mob that starts to chase someone it shouldn't. Your health isn't the only thing you should worry about. Another thing, if you see somebody who is lower than the normal level going on a bh that you just joined, trying asking if they are a tabber. I don't know how many times that has happened to me. It's just easier now with having bhs (OMG THERE WAS I TIME WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE BH? Uh, yeah there was) to just group them together with fbs.

9. It's common courtesy to let the tabber have the drops. That means if a mold drops, then politely hand it to the tabber. Don't run off with it and be like "YES! I JUST MADE 800k OFF A TABBER'S DROP!!!" It is very irritating. I have had to hunt some people down and force them to give up a drop cause they want to be rude. Don't make people have to do that. Just give it up. When the tabber is the one that had to go get the wine and everything, they deserve a little something for their hard work. If you want mold drops, go on a bh or run the fb yourself solo. Or better yet, go buy it.

10. FC pulls are for FC, not for a fb. Keep rushing and mass pulls in FC please. I know you guys have grown to love the FC pulling, but there is a time and place to use it, and a Fb is not one of them. You may not think so, but it can be annoying to be in a fb squad and people try to do that.

So, that's what I got for now. I hope all of you follow these guidelines already, and that it was pointless of me to post this. If that wasn't the case, please fix your mistakes. Thank you.
If you see a spelling error or don't understand one of these and need me to clarify, feel free to point it out. I wont bite your head off for telling me I accidentally did something wrong or didn't explain something fully. I just felt this needed to be posted.

BarbEQ - Dreamweaver

all seems very sensible, and I would love if this was the way of things all the time.

I am sure you will get flames and trolls so just ignore them as they are the people who should probably have read something like this before they hypered to end game. Being courteous in game shouldnt be a chore. If you expect folks to be nice to you and help, you gotta be nice back.

Kitkate - Dreamweaver

Thank you. I would really love for people to be this way all the time too. I'm hoping some people might get a hint from reading this and try to change what they are doing. It keeps happening more and more lately, so I felt posting this was appropriate.

I'm not too extremely worried about flames. If they don't like my opinion they can go on being rude. Then I can just laugh in their face when no one wants to squad with them because of their behavior. =P

Riverwell - Archosaur

Yes. Especially realizing that this could potentially be the tab-ers first time, and they might not know what to do / where to go, etc.

I remember my first fb19, they told me to talk to the pillar to tab the boss, and I said that I couldn't see any quests. They raged and then left because I "didn't have my tabs" only I did.

It turns out that I was trying to talk to a normal rock-stone thing. =/ If they had taken the time to try and figure out what was wrong... *is still kind of bitter about it*

But yes. I do think people need a reminder that fbs aren't a race, and to go through them a little more slowly. Newbies get lost easily... Hell I still don't really know the fb51 layout with all the tricks and turns and patrols. XD

Magicsaber - Dreamweaver

Kitkate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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2. The tabber asking you to go on a fb is a PRIVILEGE. Don't take the fb for granted. The tabber is allowing you to get exp, spirit, and even your bh done. Don't be rude and act like you don't want to be there. Always be polite to the tabber, even if it gets a bit annoying trying to explain something to them. ...

May be. But let you look at some simple situation.

Someone was asking all people around to help with fb19 near banker at the south of Archosaur.

Not at any start city, but at Archosaur.

He was blademaster.

I understood situation of the player and said him: "I can do it for you."

Paid something about 5000 coins, jumped into Firecrag Grotto, AOE killed all mobs (no mobs left) and boss(mobs at bh59 more powerfull than those boss).

After those fb19 I got 2 reputation points and small amount of exp/spirit.

I don't think, that it was a "PRIVILEGE".

It was help.

Kitkate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

3. Once again, fbs are NOT A RACE. Do not rush through the fb. That causes the tabber to miss things.

I like to see how someone will spend about an hour or two to explain all about bosses, traps and mobs at fb to tabber. I not saw it yet.

Edit:

About exp/spirit:
you can take it from BHs too. And from simple mobs or quests. And sometimes even more than from fb.

Kitkate - Dreamweaver

Riverwell - Archosaur wrote: »

Yes. Especially realizing that this could potentially be the tab-ers first time, and they might not know what to do / where to go, etc.

I remember my first fb19, they told me to talk to the pillar to tab the boss, and I said that I couldn't see any quests. They raged and then left because I "didn't have my tabs" only I did.

It turns out that I was trying to talk to a normal rock-stone thing. =/ If they had taken the time to try and figure out what was wrong... *is still kind of bitter about it*

But yes. I do think people need a reminder that fbs aren't a race, and to go through them a little more slowly. Newbies get lost easily... Hell I still don't really know the fb51 layout with all the tricks and turns and patrols. XD

I have gone on a ton of fb19s, and that one always seems to take the longest just because you are trying to explain everything to the new player. The mobs inside are extremely easy, but you can't speed through it because the tabber always wants to lag far behind. I'm sorry your first fb19 was a bad squad. That is never any fun. D=

Magicsaber - Dreamweaver wrote: »

May be. But let you look at some simple situation.

Someone was asking all people around to help with fb19 near banker at the south of Archosaur.

Not at any start city, but at Archosaur.

He was blademaster.

I understood situation of the player and said him: "I can do it for you."

Paid something about 5000 coins, jumped into Firecrag Grotto, AOE killed all mobs (no mobs left) and boss(mobs at bh59 more powerfull than those boss).

After those fb19 I got 2 reputation points and small amount of exp/spirit.

I don't think, that it was a "PRIVILEGE".

It was help.


I like to see how someone will spend about an hour or two to explain all about bosses, traps and mobs at fb to tabber. I not saw it yet.

Edit:

About exp/spirit:
you can take it from BHs too. And from simple mobs or quests. And sometimes even more than from fb.

Privilege: a special advantage or benefit not enjoyed by all; a right reserved exclusively by a particular person or group.
Fb's are something you have to be chosen to go on by the tabber. The tabber is allowing you to gain something (no matter how small) for helping them. You not only gain spirit or exp from fbs, but also reputation which is actually very important later on in game. Even in fb19 you are gaining something you didn't have before because someone is allowing you to. It's a privilege. Fact is you should be nice anyway, whether or not you really feel it is.

And I have spent over two hours explaining bosses and fb's to new members. I'm a faction leader, and I do it frequently. Since I have been on this game for over a year and a half, I know how everything works and I normally end up the one explaining things. I am normally the one helping out on fbs and bhs for lower level faction members. I also help just for the fact of helping, not for the rep or exp. If I did, I'd be over level 100 like many of my friends.

Alphae - Lost City

I actually really like it when my FB people do FC-esque pulls. It makes things go so much faster, and it's really epic to see.

I think the MOST important things are to:
1. Make sure the tabber is keeping up with you!
2. Make sure the tabber is ok with what you are doing.

While it becomes untrue in higher levels, esp. in lower levels (when FBs are not wined after 20/20/20), the tabber shouldn't be getting anywhere near they action, the mobs are too strong for them. If they understand agro mechanics they are perfectly welcome to throw in hits that won't draw agro. But frankly they shouldn't be getting into the thick of things.

Magicsaber - Dreamweaver

Kitkate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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You not only gain spirit or exp from fbs, but also reputation which is actually very important later on in game ...

About reputation I can tell, that I not see any, really any profit from it (for my hero).

1. My hero has better gear even now, than reputation rewards.
2. One only useful for my hero sword cost 200,000 reputation points, which is very large sum, as I think (my hero has 4075 reputation points now only).

Kitkate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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I am normally the one helping out on fbs and bhs for lower level ...

I am helping too sometimes.

Alphae - Lost City wrote: »

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I think the MOST important things are to:
1. Make sure the tabber is keeping up with you!
2. Make sure the tabber is ok with what you are doing.
...

Totally agree with you.

Rainesong - Dreamweaver

Kitkate definitely like the way you think lady... thank you so much for posting this! b:victory