The True Player Failures of this Game

ShootJooh - Harshlands

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm one of the people who has complaints about this game. Never did I say that everybody complaining was a failure or a fool.

The people I meant on this topic were the people who sit and complain in game about how much they hate this game and how there is nothing right with it, yet continue to play it. These people are morons, and these are the people who give all the rest of us our "complainer" labels.

I did used to be addicted to this game. I won't deny it for a second. I was in this game every day for several hours, having fun and playing it and spending time with my friends.

With the late changes? I'm lucky if I sign on once in several weeks.

The people who say the game was better before I have to agree with, and you do have to have experienced it to understand what we mean. There may not have been quite as much content, but there was more quality to everything, it seemed. If you look hard enough, there's a saying in that somewhere.

I get what you mean, I guess as I have not played the game back when it was "better" I don't really know what I'm missing out on, so I enjoy it just the same as when I started playing? (Not too long ago)

Not exactly clear on the point I'm trying to make here, but I still don't quite understand why people log into the game that they class as "bad game" just to QQ. Doesn't it make more sense to just not play it in the first pla- Never mind, not even sure why I'm bothering here. b:surrender

QQers: 1
ShootJooh: 0

Airyll - Dreamweaver

ShootJooh - Harshlands wrote: »

I get what you mean, I guess as I have not played the game back when it was "better" I don't really know what I'm missing out on, so I enjoy it just the same as when I started playing? (Not too long ago)

Not exactly clear on the point I'm trying to make here, but I still don't quite understand why people log into the game that they class as "bad game" just to QQ. Doesn't it make more sense to just not play it in the first pla- Never mind, not even sure why I'm bothering here. b:surrender

QQers: 1
ShootJooh: 0

No, I understand your point and it's well conceived. You don't appreciate what the game was like beforehand because you didn't play it back then, and nobody can fault you for not finding the game any sooner. It's understandable that you're happy with the game you play, because you never experienced it as any different.

In the same way, your point that the QQers who only ever QQ yet still play the game is also valid. But!

Keep in mind not everybody who can be seen "QQing" is actually raising invalid complaints. Many complaints have been brought up by the older player base in particular and it's true, while some people do insist on playing the game even though they claim it to be so bad, others don't really play.

Take me, for instance. I have a lot of things I could complain about. I'm logged into the game right now, but I'm not actually playing it as such. I'm chatting to my friends in game and watching world chat go by seeing if anything interesting is happening and if I can be bothered to spend the time maybe doing a BH or finishing my venomancer's chrono quest. In a sense, just because I am logged on, it doesn't mean I'm playing.

So you're right in one instance, and wrong in the next. There are plenty of players who complain about everything under the sun and yet continue to make money in the game and put cash into the game and OHMIGOD GOTTA HIT 105!!!!
But there are also people who will complain about some things and only log on to carry on "playing" the bits of the game that they find fun.

ShootJooh - Harshlands

I have nothing else to say on the subject.

Please continue, thread. -sips coffee-

SoIar - Dreamweaver

Too many people like that ingame and on the forums...to bad I can't name and shame, but I'm thinking of a demon elf archer xD

denesis

Im thinking of Absoluth, archer from ht b:shutup

ShootJooh - Harshlands

SoIar - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Too many people like that ingame and on the forums...to bad I can't name and shame, but I'm thinking of a demon elf archer xD

I secretly love him. If hes a troll, his work is MAGNIFICENT. If hes not, well the- nvm, there is no way in hell that he is not a troll.

I hope we're talking about the same guy here.b:shocked

SoIar - Dreamweaver

ShootJooh - Harshlands wrote: »

I secretly love him. If hes a troll, his work is MAGNIFICENT. If hes not, well the- nvm, there is no way in hell that he is not a troll.

I hope we're talking about the same guy here.b:shocked

lol I think we're talking about the same person, and I agree, he is either an excellent troll or too fail for words b:chuckle either way his posts sure are amusing

denesis

SoIar - Dreamweaver wrote: »

lol I think we're talking about the same person, and I agree, he is either an excellent troll or too fail for words b:chuckle either way his posts sure are amusing

who are u thinking of?

PaleHorse - Lost City

iv joined about 2 months after the genie expansion and since then taken several breaks from the game, not because i dislike it but just because i had to much stuff on to enjoy it. now there has been a lot of "****" ups with the current changes and stuff but i personally still love this game and will continue to play it regardless of how "dead" it is b:pleased


and as for that "demon archer" his posts always make my nights much better

denesis

Lol am i the only one here who dont know who that mysterious guy is.
Just tell me first and last letter of his name.

ShootJooh - Harshlands

denesis wrote: »

who are u thinking of?

Dogs arE awesoMe. i ONce took my dog to thE pArk.

Hmm?

SoIar - Dreamweaver

denesis wrote: »

Lol am i the only one here who dont know who that mysterious guy is.
Just tell me first and last letter of his name.

lol just look at the pvp ponderings section of the forums, find the most fail player there and you will know who we are talking about

ShootJooh - Harshlands wrote: »

Dogs arE awesoMe. i ONce took my dog to thE pArk.

Hmm?

lol

denesis

SoIar - Dreamweaver wrote: »

lol just look at the pvp ponderings section of the forums, find the most fail player there and you will know who we are talking about

Oh i found him, guess i dont visit PvP ponderings that oftenb:surrender

Typhyse - Sanctuary

I'm the biggest failure for not having internet over the Summer; I could have been 9x by now if I hadb:surrender

/end thread

MANray_ - Sanctuary

People who threaten violence over the internet are a liability, and should be banned from organized online comunities.

A) Threats can have a real impact on some users, they are in fact a form of abuse. Crossing the line into trying to have someone fear an attack (regardless of how pathetic an attempt) is clearly indicative of sociopathic tendencies.

Some people actually attempt to carry off their threats, usually through scripts, keyloggers, etc. While fortunately those with the technical knowledge to actually track someone down will rarely have the disposition to use such capabilities in this fashion, many users lead more open lives on the internet. Some guilds i've been in do include people that know each other irl for instance, which does open the posibility someone may be presented with the oportunity of learning irl info about other users. Cases of actual violence have fortunately been rare so far but the possibility exists.

Flaming and nerdraging are one thing, but going to the extreme of making threats is not just sad and pathetic, it is dangerous.

Vorhs - Lost City

The real failures are the players who still pay PWE for zen.
Whats the point in "pay2win" in a broken game?
They should start buy zen again only after devs fix PWI, but i fear its a bit too late, devs should have thought about it earlier.

The new real failures will be the ppl who, pissed off with PWI, will start playing Forsaken World when it comes out.
Do you think they will treat FW in a different way?

- cash shop to win
- unbalance between classes
- idiotic bugs NEVER fixed

and, worse then EVER:

RACISM, HARRASSMENTS AND SCAMS NEVER BANNED, or, if they did (1% of the cases), its NEVER permanent.

This is the game i know where GMs authority fails. Cash shoppers control gms, not viceversa.

Foxgrit - Lost City

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wall of Stupidity...

The true failure of this game is that there are morons like you who try to justify how the game was systematically destroyed by developers and GMs. False promises, lies, and flat out greed by those in charge destroyed this game.

Game is dead.

Foxgrit - Lost City

Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »

This is the game i know where GMs authority fails. Cash shoppers control gms, not viceversa.

100% true. Punishment is handed out dependent on how much money you spend.

NightRage - Raging Tide

Ehuahuehahuehuahueahuaeea game is dead.

Airyll - Dreamweaver

Foxgrit - Lost City wrote: »

The true failure of this game is that there are morons like you who try to justify how the game was systematically destroyed by developers and GMs. False promises, lies, and flat out greed by those in charge destroyed this game.

Game is dead.

... did you even read my first post?

Also, point out to me where I said that

a) Developers weren't greedy asshats
b) The game was systematically destroyed
c) Where I blame GMs for anything that happens in this game with regards to packs or actual changes

Fine me those three things, the things you claim I'm saying, and then you can call me stupid. Find me the quotes. Go on. Call me stupid if you have the proof to back it up with.

Until then, you just failed hardcore at reading comprehension. You haven't paid attention to what this thread was about at all and you are only looking for somebody to point the finger at so you can continue to post your "game is dead" comments on every thread you see.

Also, FYI little miss/mr i-think-i-know-it-all, here's my opinion of the game:

1) It was destroyed by a new team of developers who should never have touched this game with a ten foot pole. They made unnecessary changes that benefited neither version of the game they were trying to fix and they saw a great deal of profit to be made in "fixing" what was never broken in the first place.
2) It was further decimated by a greedy team of people at PWE who saw profit in these new flaws and broken systems and decided to take advantage of the players by introducing gear in packs and breaking any sort of balance there was in these games. Their lies and falsities lie in their claims that TW was changed to fix an economy for example; a lie so blatantly obvious it hurts.
3) The sales team are just as greedy as the rest of them, and why wouldn't they be because it's money into their pocket and **** the game.

Now maybe you'd like to stop jumping on people and calling them stupid if you clearly do not know their point of view and can't be bothered to read an original post, you arrogant little ****, you.

darthpanda16

Hook a GM up, send the screenshots, or date and time of the chats to you, with any other info you would like, to Customer Support in a ticket.

The ban sabres are recharged overnight, and ready to go. b:chuckle

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Let's see..

I met a venomancer in a BH59 (when heavy armor'd venos first became popular) who was pure axes, no fox skills, no human skills, no magic weapon, but had a herc as well. They said this is how their character was going to end up. I politely told them that no FF or RB squad or any decent squad for any instance that requires actual veno skills or veno tanking would ever take a veno that can only hit one target and with a friggen axe. They raged the squad. I later saw them, still using axes, in a FF squad, except this time.. they had the level 50 supply stash magic sword! Still the same fail, just slightly evolved.

There was a barb, who, as it turned out, was actually a chick in realz, who, in a FF squad, told my wizard not to attack harpies in the first hall, as a veno or archer should. Then they tell me only to use dragons breath instead of ultis the group at the shade before the first boss, even though the ultis I used smashed those mobs when the BM HF'd. Err, okay.. then pulling all the magic mobs to the shade before the 2nd boss (the one w/elementos in the start), they die from not invoking, so I ask them if they had the sparks for invoke, and they say they don't invoke. Of course, that's exactly why they got creamed by ~ 9-10 groups of magic mobs. They tell me not to tell them how to play a barb as they are perfectly pro at their class. I was like, uhh, you were ok giving me advice on how to play a wizard, then I got booted. Other people in local chat told the barb that wasn't cool, then she raged and told them to find another barb.

Oh, and, let's see, two players on HT who liked to pretend they were e-pimps and **** over decent ladies who happened to like them when they were pretending not to be the hole of their rear ****. Yeah, way too long and personal a story, but those two were, and at least one of them still is, an epic amount of fail, projecting their real life fail onto the game.

Airyll - Dreamweaver

darthpanda16 wrote: »

Hook a GM up, send the screenshots, or date and time of the chats to you, with any other info you would like, to Customer Support in a ticket.

The ban sabres are recharged overnight, and ready to go. b:chuckle

I have to be honest, I would have sent screenshots or actually dated the time and general idea of the chat if I had thought sending a ticket would do any good.

The system seems like a few tickets do get overlooked and never answered, and I'm not sure how many tickets bring about solutions. Of course, the fact I haven't sent one means that it's on my own part that this person isn't going to even have the chance to be punished for what he did, but that was my choice to make.

Either way, if it happens again, I'll be sure to send in a ticket of some kind so you can see what lovely breed of players the recent bouts of greed and "MUST GET OP GEAR AND 105" have spawned.

Vorhs - Lost City

darthpanda16 wrote: »

Hook a GM up, send the screenshots, or date and time of the chats to you, with any other info you would like, to Customer Support in a ticket.

The ban sabres are recharged overnight, and ready to go. b:chuckle

I sent endless dated screenshots of whispers, general and even world chat violations.
You always say "we'll take appropriate action"
All i see is that those persons im trying to ban are always online. Its like 5-6 months that i send tickets about them and nothing ever happens.

Teppeii - Dreamweaver

This authoritative body is not capable of action.b:surrender

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver

lol wut?
pm plz? xD

VlLKASS - Sanctuary

WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »

you sure?

wizzeled: YOURE ALL JUST JEALOUS. YOUR HATRED JUST SHOWS HOW ENVIOUS OF MY CASHED GEAR YOU ARE. IM LUCKY TO HAVE A LIFE, AND CAN PLAY AND SPEND AS MUCH AS I WANT

o.O Wasn't he like blackmailing the rich chicks on serv with their naked pics to get his $?

Foxgrit - Lost City

Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »

I sent endless dated screenshots of whispers, general and even world chat violations.
You always say "we'll take appropriate action"
All i see is that those persons im trying to ban are always online. Its like 5-6 months that i send tickets about them and nothing ever happens.

Same here. I used to send in 20-30/week. ****/necrophilia/etc. Not a single person was ever banned. Then all of a sudden I was permabanned for improper WC which they refused to tell me what I even said. After 3 weeks of arguing by email waiting 3-5 days between replies and them still ignoring my question wanting to know what I said. The most pathetic part was the 1st week I was banned for 3rd offense botting although never was banned before at all. 2nd week that changed to 3rd offense multiclienting. 3rd week it changed to improper world chats. They couldnt even make up their mind what I did in the first place. At the end of the 3rd week when they refused to tell me what I had said that was worth a permaban I told them they could keep their crappy *** game and they would never get any more money from me ever again. 2 hours later I get a response from someone claiming to be the boss of the GM I was dealing with and my accounts were unbanned instantly.

Moral of the story...Threaten to stop spending money and you will be instantly unbanned. I know of many who have used that line and every single one of them was unbanned instantly.

I still have never given them another dime since then and never will.

Game is dead.

denesis

The game is really dead...

Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm one of the people who has complaints about this game. Never did I say that everybody complaining was a failure or a fool.

The people I meant on this topic were the people who sit and complain in game about how much they hate this game and how there is nothing right with it, yet continue to play it. These people are morons, and these are the people who give all the rest of us our "complainer" labels.

I did used to be addicted to this game. I won't deny it for a second. I was in this game every day for several hours, having fun and playing it and spending time with my friends.

With the late changes? I'm lucky if I sign on once in several weeks.

The people who say the game was better before I have to agree with, and you do have to have experienced it to understand what we mean. There may not have been quite as much content, but there was more quality to everything, it seemed. If you look hard enough, there's a saying in that somewhere.

Mmm yes, but there are those of us that are on the other side of the fence on this topic as well. I've been here since Closed Beta, and I still play this game ... almost as much as I used to, for different reasons. Plainly seeing that ... this is the best game out there in its current F2P medium. So, not EVERYONE that has seen this game in its "glory" days thinks it was better then now. Different, yes, but not worse and not better. Just.. different. Nothing stays the same forever though. Even very big-name P2P has ganged pretty much everything fundamental about their game... lets just say... I'm glad PWI doesn't change the BASE things like Skills and what not to suit the QQing.

On the subject of the thread though, thats pretty funny. o.o; Poor soul.