Wiz > Chan or Crit

bubble7th
bubble7th Posts: 10 Arc User
edited September 2010 in Wizard
as the title, which is best for pure int wiz, chan or crit, and what is the best weapon for it.

thx
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  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    If you are a cashshopper - both
    If not - I suggest crit, since it's cheaper to get decent level of crit rate.
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  • Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »
    If you are a cashshopper - both
    If not - I suggest crit, since it's cheaper to get decent level of crit rate.

    LOL, you read my mind ...
    hmm wait...
    The psychic is me not you b:chuckle
  • Prohibited - Heavens Tear
    Prohibited - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    99 gear for crit would be like;
    2x attendance ring @ +3% each x2
    tt99 sword @ +3% x1
    demon masteries @ +1% ea x3
    base @ +1%
    xmas tome @ + 1% x1
    = 14% crit fairly cheap
    include WS belt for extra +1%, tt99 boots + stick 6 points into dex (to have 20 total) = +1% crit as well

    2ez
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  • bubble7th
    bubble7th Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »
    If you are a cashshopper - both
    If not - I suggest crit, since it's cheaper to get decent level of crit rate.

    can you describe what it called both, because my opinion about not focus to 1 thing are, the final will not get best resuly

    thx
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Most end game gear incorporates both.

    Lunar rings - -6% chan +3% crit +250 pdef each
    hh99 wrists -6%
    weapon either channeling crit or both
    nirvana pants and top give crit and channeling.

    I have -21% channeling and 17% crit myself. You can do whatever you want but I highly suggest you do not sacrifice pdef (pdef adorns) for -channeling (mdef adorns)
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    LOL, you read my mind ...
    hmm wait...
    The psychic is me not you b:chuckle

    ?
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  • bubble7th
    bubble7th Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Amour - Lost City wrote: »
    Most end game gear incorporates both.

    Lunar rings - -6% chan +3% crit +250 pdef each
    hh99 wrists -6%
    weapon either channeling crit or both
    nirvana pants and top give crit and channeling.

    I have -21% channeling and 17% crit myself. You can do whatever you want but I highly suggest you do not sacrifice pdef (pdef adorns) for -channeling (mdef adorns)

    wow, ic thx for the attention b:cute
  • Evanera - Heavens Tear
    Evanera - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,423 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Good to have a mixture of both.

    Prohib, demon masteries don't stack.
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  • Rule - Heavens Tear
    Rule - Heavens Tear Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I personally focused crit until 100, then got the 99 gear and event rings to have both. ~33-36% channeling and 16% listed crit, masteries are in there afterwards.

    *Carry a second set of heavy phys def gear in either case*
  • XEmpressX - Heavens Tear
    XEmpressX - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    What is the lowest -chan u can get? Not so interested in crits (although seeing those big numbers is nice). I'd like to be able to at least cast the spell, and worry about what damage it does afterwards...
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    83% channeling is the max
    Unless I missed something:

    10% from lunar nirvana/Beamhoof slicer with 2 stone of savants
    3% Warsoul helmet
    6% from rank top
    3% 2nd cast nirvana pants
    6% from 2 rings
    1% from tome..is there more possible?
    12% from belt
    12% from sleeves
    12% from necklace
    6% from cape
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    83% channeling is the max
    Unless I missed something:

    10% from lunar nirvana/Beamhoof slicer with 2 stone of savants
    3% Warsoul helmet
    6% from rank top
    3% 2nd cast nirvana pants
    6% from 2 rings
    1% from tome..is there more possible?
    12% from belt
    12% from sleeves
    12% from necklace
    6% from cape

    rings/wrists/neck/belt all have a CHANCE to get up to 3 -channel stats, so a possible -18% channeling per item. Don't think any item exists on the server with -6% channeling 3 times.. but it is "possible".
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  • Balthier - Dreamweaver
    Balthier - Dreamweaver Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    83% channeling is the max
    Unless I missed something:

    12% from belt
    12% from sleeves
    12% from necklace

    There are -18% sleeves on DW server, and the same can be gotten on rings, belt and neck aswell.
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Ah wow..didn't think -18 was possible. Guess that's how that video of a wizard with what was it..120% chanelling was possible
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  • Zoroastra - Sanctuary
    Zoroastra - Sanctuary Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    like people said, the best choice would be both, but im guessing it rly depends on how u play and what u want to do with ur char.

    currently i have 18% crit (considering 3 masteries stack, but we never know. description sugests it does) and 21% chanel. could get 27% if i bothered to buy a second lunar ring.
    I changed from TT99 glaive to TT99 magic sword after i started tw'ing since i noticed the most eficient way to kill the classes i was told to (mostly bms and archers, since im usually on suport, not cata kill) is to land a crit or 2, so i'd say i like crit better than chanel (still gonna get crit belt - helm - top one day)...

    so, im not a pvp'er but it seems common sense that if u are one, u should use phys def orns instead of channeling ones. I do change for -6 %chanel ornaments for nirvana/TT/warsong /other pve instances.
  • fulgida
    fulgida Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    83% channeling is the max
    Unless I missed something:

    10% from lunar nirvana/Beamhoof slicer with 2 stone of savants

    That would be 16% channelling?

    Beamhoof (and lucky nirvanas) have 10% even without those stones...
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I'm sure I worded it well enough..if you thought I meant it another way, that means I think a weapon can have 4% channeling on it..which is obviously wrong. 10% from the weapon PLUS/WITH 2 savants..
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  • ThrilKill - Heavens Tear
    ThrilKill - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Thanks for the answers. So with that much -chan gear, does it significantly improve the time it takes to hit someone with say BIDS or BT? Or is it generally better for the lower spells like glacial and divine pyro?
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Ultis yes, because they have low cast times and long channel times. Generally best spells to use would be those with long channeling and low casting times.
  • ThrilKill - Heavens Tear
    ThrilKill - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Is there any gear that decreases cast time? I see that certain Demon skills have this in the description, wondering if you can get -chan and -cast?
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ThrilKill - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Is there any gear that decreases cast time? I see that certain Demon skills have this in the description, wondering if you can get -chan and -cast?

    There is no way to reduce cast time on a wizard (only way for other classes is by learning a select few lvl11 skills)
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  • ThrilKill - Heavens Tear
    ThrilKill - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    My bad, just re-read the descriptions and it was Spark Eruption that Increases your cast speed by 25% for 15 seconds
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  • Sun_Burn - Lost City
    Sun_Burn - Lost City Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ThrilKill - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My bad, just re-read the descriptions and it was Spark Eruption that Increases your cast speed by 25% for 15 seconds

    if it says cast then its a typo, nothing decreases cast time as far as i know.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ThrilKill - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My bad, just re-read the descriptions and it was Spark Eruption that Increases your cast speed by 25% for 15 seconds

    Must be a typo or something, there is no way to reduce cast times as a wizard
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Sun_Burn - Lost City wrote: »
    if it says cast then its a typo, nothing decreases cast time as far as i know.

    Casting time is possible to decrease almost to zero. It's a bug in game. When you have +95% NOT 100% channeling, the casting time thanks to this bug disappear. Of course impossible to get in this version PW.
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  • Noc - Harshlands
    Noc - Harshlands Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Casting time is possible to decrease almost to zero. It's a bug in game. When you have +95% NOT 100% channeling, the casting time thanks to this bug disappear. Of course impossible to get in this version PW.

    Can it be exactly 95% to work, or does it need to be between 96% and 99%?
  • MrHanky - Harshlands
    MrHanky - Harshlands Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    lol thinking about that demon setup huh
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  • Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear
    Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    OH jeeeez
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Don't bother that has been fixed since the genie expansion b:chuckle
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