TW Schedule Sorted 9/17 ~ 9/19
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Exegesis - Heavens Tear wrote: »A merge would probably end up in chaos, if TE were to take it serious, make rosters, sign ups etc, use vent and use a proper strategy /tactic or at least try to do it decent it might be something out of it..
That's why i say i don't see a merge happening...
our disorganised TWs, it's just pure chaos b:chuckle [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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No such thig as an organized TW...<3 30 second briefings"One of the most important factors, not only in military matters but in life as a whole, is ... the ability to direct one's whole energies towards the fulfillment of a particular task." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
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Wilzxen - Heavens Tear wrote: »I don't know why people thinks this.... but Enrage is not invincible as everyone think they are.
If you think back Enrage could not handle Tao, Rad and Caesar and was losing land.
Like if you get 3 guilds with full 80 members attending with semi decent gears. Enrage will lose at least 1 maybe 2 land.
Think about it there is noway they can field 240 ppl.
What guilds have to do is make sure that they turtle in and pure defend the first 15 mins then once all TW have start, they start the attack.
Lets say Guild 1, 2 and 3 attacks enrage
Guild 1 will enter TW first
Guild 2 follows after 3 mins
Guild 3 follows soon after
First 15 mins is extremely critical.
Because if Guild 1 can hold for 15 mins, enrage will be forced to split their force.
But if Guild 1 can't hold for 15 mins, it will be a very fast TW overall. cos enrage member from the first battle will split between the other 2 battle and fields more member each.
Notice this week the TW against enrage last longer cos both guild (Rad and TE) could hold them off for a bit. Now imagine we had maybe Dominus as the 3rd TW guild. I would imagine enrage will struggle and maybe lose 1.
Unless you are telling me that they are able to pull 20-30 people out of the Rad battle to defend Dominus?
The above scenario works fine if they hadn't hidden the bidding, and made the failed bids non-refundable. Now you have to rely on blind chance, and a sucessfully laid-out multi-faction gank is much harder to create.
It's random chance now. Enrage will die of boredom waiting for it.
Better to just pull up a lawn chair and watch them gnaw on each other.
RedMenaceA human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just need some of the smaller Factions to stop turning up with 20 vs Enrage and merge together.
But cant see that happening
but even 60-80 lvl 80s can be easyily be 1-2 shotedouka - 101 HA veno - " Squeek, I'm A Fox!"
ouka__ - 103 vit barb- "Nom Nom I'm A Panda!"
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Asmodiel - Heavens Tear wrote: »No such thig as an organized TW...<3 30 second briefings
pfft briefings my a.ss
and i don't think anyone actually cares enough to communicate with each other (leader to leader) and plan a gank attack[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Shifong - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'd like to see TE, Dominus and drakon grow for more competition. And i agree that if small factions want to be serious about TW, they should either merge with a bigger guild or merge together with smaller guilds. So many high levels popping out of nowhere. What's the point of leveling without end game goals?
levels doesn't mean **** when there is no brains behind it... especially true after last weekend. i ****ing got hit by stormrage from a cv/99 bow.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
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Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »levels doesn't mean **** when there is no brains behind it... especially true after last weekend. i ****ing got hit by stormrage from a cv/99 bow.
lmao, a lot of non-archers might not get that."Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu
"Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
~Iron Mike Tyson Enrage.omgforum.net
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In all fairness, even with the messed up TW bidding and hidden bids, etc
Sicne Rad lost our land there's a higher chance of a good gank happening this weekend, as Rad can now bid on any land we want.
Leaders need to talk >.< DO IT! DO EET NAO!~Almost original Tao member~
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If you can find Vivi online to talk. :O[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Fliiick - Heavens Tear wrote: »In all fairness, even with the messed up TW bidding and hidden bids, etc
Sicne Rad lost our land there's a higher chance of a good gank happening this weekend, as Rad can now bid on any land we want.
Leaders need to talk >.< DO IT! DO EET NAO!
Doesnt matter Bids dont work like they used to. Nearly impossible to plan a gank since it seems like the TW times r pretty random now.
Also lvls might not mean much in a 1v1 but in a gank all u need is a smart faction and they other 2 just be cannon fodder[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »lmao, a lot of non-archers might not get that.
i got it[SIGPIC]http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4183/sgtdrunkramble.png[/SIGPIC]
DUTY_CALLS - Heavens Tear: "I QUIT THE FORM'S FROM NOW U ALL JUST FORM TROLL'S AND TALK **** ALL TIME MEET ME IN PvP U GOT SOMTHING TO SAYb:shocked"0 -
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »levels doesn't mean **** when there is no brains behind it... especially true after last weekend. i ****ing got hit by stormrage from a cv/99 bow.
Yea, and remember Gale getting hit by someone's vicious arrow? So useful -_-0 -
Prohibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »i got it
oh wait[SIGPIC]http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4183/sgtdrunkramble.png[/SIGPIC]
DUTY_CALLS - Heavens Tear: "I QUIT THE FORM'S FROM NOW U ALL JUST FORM TROLL'S AND TALK **** ALL TIME MEET ME IN PvP U GOT SOMTHING TO SAYb:shocked"0 -
Prohibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »oh wait
lol, u ****ing troll"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu
"Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
~Iron Mike Tyson Enrage.omgforum.net
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Fliiick - Heavens Tear wrote: »Sicne Rad lost our land there's a higher chance of a good gank happening this weekend, as Rad can now bid on any land we want.
Huh ??? I thought we were all chipping in to max bid on TE
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Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »Huh ??? I thought we were all chipping in to max bid on TE
b:mischievous
Rumors have it that Drakon will max bid on TE.
*coughs*
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I wonder if 200m is still the max bid after the changes[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »I wonder if 200m is still the max bid after the changes
Why aren't you being AFK?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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sorry, i can't be afk all the time b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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Never ever fully afk....so dangerous.."One of the most important factors, not only in military matters but in life as a whole, is ... the ability to direct one's whole energies towards the fulfillment of a particular task." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
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i always went afk during TW, getting drinks and food etcb:avoidb:chuckleTheEmpire
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MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »sorry, i can't be afk all the time b:surrender
TheEmpire, we AFK with one eye open.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »I wonder if 200m is still the max bid after the changes
I would still think so seeing as you can only have 200 mill in your inventoryouka - 101 HA veno - " Squeek, I'm A Fox!"
ouka__ - 103 vit barb- "Nom Nom I'm A Panda!"
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good point... i wonder if u can bid with 10m notes b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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Wilzxen - Heavens Tear wrote: »I don't know why people thinks this.... but Enrage is not invincible as everyone think they are.
If you think back Enrage could not handle Tao, Rad and Caesar and was losing land.
Like if you get 3 guilds with full 80 members attending with semi decent gears. Enrage will lose at least 1 maybe 2 land.
Think about it there is noway they can field 240 ppl.
What guilds have to do is make sure that they turtle in and pure defend the first 15 mins then once all TW have start, they start the attack.
Lets say Guild 1, 2 and 3 attacks enrage
Guild 1 will enter TW first
Guild 2 follows after 3 mins
Guild 3 follows soon after
First 15 mins is extremely critical.
Because if Guild 1 can hold for 15 mins, enrage will be forced to split their force.
But if Guild 1 can't hold for 15 mins, it will be a very fast TW overall. cos enrage member from the first battle will split between the other 2 battle and fields more member each.
Notice this week the TW against enrage last longer cos both guild (Rad and TE) could hold them off for a bit. Now imagine we had maybe Dominus as the 3rd TW guild. I would imagine enrage will struggle and maybe lose 1.
Unless you are telling me that they are able to pull 20-30 people out of the Rad battle to defend Dominus?
Thats just the only reason dragon members want to do bid only on Enrage and not on other factions (beside the fact Enrage has awesome players you can learn alot from fighting against etc.). How about TE? Just how many times have TE leadership skiped a chance to bid on Enrage and thus making them conquer faster? ..
Weeks ago Dragons + Radiance had same time slot against Enrage 1st time after many months. Rad almost won in 3 hours and we lost in 46 min being vastly outnumbered. I recon then the server saw its duable again, but to talk about ganks now its just too late LOL.
Its the TW bidding system and random time slots overall (that got even more random after TW changes) that enabled guilds in CN, MY, Japan, Russia and International servers to simply strive and easy make 1 color maps. Due to the massive coin boost they would get from the Game Masters http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=818032, this was not so hard at all.
If you look at the HT history, a single guild could not handle 2 major guilds untill Tao fall and so many of of their ex-Enrage enemies just jumped to Smurf Battleship. In the past, 2-3 ganks against enrage were enough to keep them on bay: Tao+Triad, Tao+Rad and Caesar+Tao ganks. Even in triple bid, the smurfs would show for 2 wars and always losing 1. I think now, GMs were 'tweaking' time slots back then so that the server lands would stay in ownership of more guilds. Tao, Triad and Caesar had same time slot every week, was so easy to take 2 lands a week from Enrage, unlike last 6 months where those things started to change for numerous reasons.
Today its harder to beat main guild with any 2 or 3 guilds compared to the past (even tho Dragons and TE with Rad in same time slot almost did it - but thats still 2 guilds not 3). I think not enough active TW players on the server in General versus Enrage that has more active TW players than Rad+ any 2 other guilds together.
The discontinuity of stronger factions attacking in double bids on HT started with TheEmpire bidding on Rad with Enrage rather than the other way around. This then triggered Rad not to bidding on Enrage as well. Until Rad got land locked, they would be bidding on TE.
But lets move on.
I think this post should have been on TE forums way back, tho I dont think TE ever really wanted to beat Enrage until now, and just maybe now. The way TE and Enrage were holding hands in pk, events, tw, pwi forums, alt sharing and members sharing etc - didnt really show any devotion to beat them, whats different today?
And finally, its a bad power-loving romance story for some, that think current map domination is a result of enrage guild being more capable compared to others - while 30% of all lands were taken for free and with 90% of successful defenses manged only due to extreme overpower and lack of serious ganks. There are so many fake bids on HT that its getting ridiculous. If someone wants to build a monument for Enrage heroes that delivered the success = do it for lapdance and guilds like it.
KK Thanks for your time all
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I took the time to read that...and I want my time back.
Moving on."One of the most important factors, not only in military matters but in life as a whole, is ... the ability to direct one's whole energies towards the fulfillment of a particular task." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
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Monoftalmus - Heavens Tear wrote: »Rad almost won in 3 hours and we lost in 46 min being vastly outnumbered.
i notice that every week... there is always some guild who "almost" won against enrage.... and yet none of them actually won.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
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Asmodiel - Heavens Tear wrote: »I took the time to read that...and I want my time back.
Moving on.
Even after this?
Monoftalmus - Heavens Tear wrote: »KK Thanks for your time all[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Asmodiel - Heavens Tear wrote: »I took the time to read that...and I want my time back.
Moving on.
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