You Bm confuse me more then barbs QQ

TexanTank - Raging Tide

Made a BM to 25 using the tank build got really bored don't want to go threw that old tank junk again so made another BM all weapon build but looks like theres no room for vit...is this true?

So my level 13 BM has like 500 hp
I'd be getting 1 hit by everything if I don't add vit

Still new to the game so don't pull the whole at 90+ your gears going to be so op you don't need vit.
b:surrender
my 54 barb is running around with whatever I get as drops also broke as hell and misses like crazy.

Seems axe/fist or axe/pole is the way to go and plain axe bms lose a lot from only going 1 path.

Starflair - Dreamweaver

TexanTank - Raging Tide wrote: »

Made a BM to 25 using the tank build got really bored don't want to go threw that old tank junk again so made another BM all weapon build but looks like theres no room for vit...is this true?

So my level 13 BM has like 500 hp
I'd be getting 1 hit by everything if I don't add vit

Still new to the game so don't pull the whole at 90+ your gears going to be so op you don't need vit.
b:surrender
my 54 barb is running around with whatever I get as drops also broke as hell and misses like crazy.

Seems axe/fist or axe/pole is the way to go and plain axe bms lose a lot from only going 1 path.

Like many classes, life is hard for a BM until about lvl 40 or so. And even still it's rough. If you're going all path, you're probably not going to have any VIT (or if so, just a little bit). A lot of BMs end up having to rely on citrine gems to add HP to their equipment.

A lvl 13 bm with 500hp makes sense to me. I know I struggled on my way up. You oughta rely on roar of the pride to stun your mobs, and use draw blood for a bit until you get better skills (Like, around lvl 29).

I think it's weird that you'd want a tank built BM when you already have a barb, but I suppose it does make for different gameplay. The thing about BMs is that while they can make decent tanks, they simply don't have the skills to be a reliable one (at least more so than barbs) so when squadding, people will mainly rely on them to DD.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

I find this a little weird to hear because I did the 3/2 build and solo'd every quest miniboss I had 25+ and could tank ever BH I had 45+ except for pole, where I had to wait till about lvl 85 and have 2 clerics. No problems with only 5 vit. As for gear I used fists and had pretty decent armors, citrine sharded but no high refines. +3 has been my highest refine. It does require a bit of coin but if you don't neglect your grinding and only do BHs like most player you should be fine.

As for the axe BM build only, you do lose alot not having the other skills and you'll want to buy a restat later. I don't exclude people from my squads for build types but having an axe BM is like being down a squad member. Except for aoe stun they don't do enough damage to hold aggro tanking, they don't contribute only a fraction of DD that most players do, and they don't have any exceptional skills to make them valuable.

I do suggest fists/axe build, especially if you're poor cause fists are a great mana pot saver and the speed at which you kill stuff normally makes hp pots unneeded also.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

Never posted ss on this forum but I will give it my best try

73 BM VIT Build path dual axes

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy76/Perigrine85/2010-09-2016-22-00.jpg

ArchSaber - Sanctuary

Thats what you have bell and marrows for. Admittedly bms are squishy until 60. With level 8+ marrows you won't die much.

Vit builds, are kinda PvE. But all weapon build is truly best in Pvp and PvE in my opinion.

Vit build BMs can't even tank bosses lol, they hit so low they can't even keep aggro. From my past bh69 run, a pure axe sage bm was in my squad and he was really c0cky that he has most hp and def in squad. But i was sick of him so i just auto attack nob. Then suddenly i get debuffed from nob and get 2 shotted.

Just remember vit doesn't add much defense, just hp. I've even tanked first half of FCC.

Kaste - Sanctuary

Well in my oppinion (and who cares xD) you should not level as 4 weapon BM. Get some axes and level up just with them, but add some extra DEX. You should look something like that then:

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=582b6e95c8c334f3


When you reach around level 80 then reset the VIT (keep it lower then 53) and add it to DEX and STR. Around this level you will not need it anymore.

Okeano - Harshlands

Why do so many people mix up then and than... I just don't get it >.>. It's like everyone I see switch those 2...

Kaste - Sanctuary

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Why do so many people mix up then and than... I just don't get it >.>. It's like everyone I see switch those 2...

O.O did i?

Okeano - Harshlands

Kaste - Sanctuary wrote: »

O.O did i?

No but the OP did. And you probably would have if the situation came up... like 90% of the people who had used those 2 words mix them up.

Telarith - Sanctuary

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

No but the OP did. And you probably would have if the situation came up... like 90% of the people who had used those 2 words mix them up.

Defiantly

That's the one I dislike seeing the most, it's not even spelled nearly the same as definitely, but people **** that up all the time.

And level up as a fist and axe build. I did it that way with absolutely no issues, why stat in a way that only helps people who are bad at their class? Only reason for vit early on, is if you're on a PvP server to protect from RPK somewhat.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thats what you have bell and marrows for. Admittedly bms are squishy until 60. With level 8+ marrows you won't die much.

Vit builds, are kinda PvE. But all weapon build is truly best in Pvp and PvE in my opinion.

Vit build BMs can't even tank bosses lol, they hit so low they can't even keep aggro. From my past bh69 run, a pure axe sage bm was in my squad and he was really c0cky that he has most hp and def in squad. But i was sick of him so i just auto attack nob. Then suddenly i get debuffed from nob and get 2 shotted.

Just remember vit doesn't add much defense, just hp. I've even tanked first half of FCC.

I have 98 vit at lvl 73... I tank every single boss I come across soloing most. I wear full TT 70 armor and calamity axes +3 with an accuracy shard. On average I can hit things anywhere from 2500 to 22000 and those aren't even the crits... The dmg I take is aywhere from 60 to 500 at 4015 hp (from mobs) hp and a diamond sutra is always handy. If you know how to use a vit bm It becomes your best friend.

Marrow magic gives me around 4000 to 5000 magic defense and makes physical def around 2000

Physical marrow makes physical defense well above 13000 but magic goes down to something like 20 lol... I need to relook at those numbers


Oh and I never waste money on hp shards... Only defense. Why do I want more hp when I can just make it so they don't hit me as hard???

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

LOKl_ - Harshlands wrote: »

Oh and I never waste money on hp shards... Only defense. Why do I want more hp when I can just make it so they don't hit me as hard???

Two reasons: PvP against magic classes (unless you mix p. def and m. def shards which still sucks) and tanking bosses. Especially BH69 bosses are evil and so are BH59 if you have only p. def shards. Your HP seems to be fine though.

ArchSaber - Sanctuary

Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »

Two reasons: PvP against magic classes (unless you mix p. def and m. def shards which still sucks) and tanking bosses. Especially BH69 bosses are evil and so are BH59 if you have only p. def shards. Your HP seems to be fine though.

this^

hp is far more effective then garnets. Since they are only useful for physical mobs, magic attack will hurt. Besides, my fists give me extra 1500 physical defense and attack boosts, and you only hit 22000 with zerk. With fists, i hit that about every 3.6 hits.

I actually tried taking a boss using only axe spamming all my skills spark and tree of protection. Well the wizzie got shotted about 6 seconds later.

LOKl_ - Harshlands

I mixed em... Physical and magical defense... Future gear I see adds alot of hp so again I am not worried about it... I can tank some bh 59 bosses (not all but some) and the 69 ones.... Yea I admit they hurt and so far have all given me dirtnaps lol