5.0 CoD?

Mosz - Heavens Tear
Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
edited September 2010 in Assassin
This is mostly to Kita or A_noob i believe it was, Cheez? or someone else who might know
with demon CoD r8 rest of interval gear g13 nirvana(-.1 daggers) do you get 4.0 or 5.0 aps? cant search find the thread >< sry
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  • Asheera - Raging Tide
    Asheera - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    It was with fists.
    First 103 on Raging Tide 30 Oct 2010
    Quit.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    That picture was taken before the release of sage/demon skills, and it was with full interval gears, TT100 fists and level 10 CoD. Fists start at 0.7 interval and goes down to 0.15 interval with full interval gears. CoD on that doubles the interval to 0.3 or 3.33 APS, which sparks to 5 APS.

    For daggers and demon CoD:

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=10124582#post10124582
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    That picture was taken before the release of sage/demon skills, and it was with full interval gears, TT100 fists and level 10 CoD. Fists start at 0.7 interval and goes down to 0.15 interval with full interval gears. CoD on that doubles the interval to 0.3 or 3.33 APS, which sparks to 5 APS.
    That's sexy...I'm tempted to rethink my plans on going Sageb:lipcurl
    Although, lvl 10 CoD + 5APS is rather over kill isn't it? Only thing I could see that being used for is soloing bosses.
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  • Ruvil - Sanctuary
    Ruvil - Sanctuary Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    You can only reach 5.0 w/ DEMON CoD fists and max interval gear. I don't mean to offend anyone but the picture of A_noob is somehow not what people seem to think it is...

    Interval + (Interval x Debuff) - (interval x buff) = New interval, round down to the nearest .05 interval and then convert to APS

    ^how to calculate APS w/ CoD + Demon spark [or a buff and a debuff]

    EVERYONE kept/keeps on saying .15 interval get doubles to .3 [3.33 aps] and as we are all aware 3.33 aps turns into 5.0 aps w/ demon spark... except it doesnt in the case of CoD.

    The reason why it doesnt is because of "double counting." This part --> (interval x buff) instead of using (.15 x .25 ) people are using (.3 x . 25) [even though actual interval is .15 not .3] which subtracts a larger value from the end interval resulting in a higher APS then actual.

    If you don't believe me or this doesnt make any sense just get on your sin and test.

    My sins normal aps is 3.33 (3.0 interval) demon sparked is 5.0. With Demon CoD APS becomes 2.0, Demon Sparked with Demon CoD 2.22.

    Removing Demon CoD and my TT99 bracers + TT99 Belt my natural attack speed is 2.0 (.50 interval same as up there^ yea?) When I demon spark my attack speed becomes 2.86. If none of this made sense so far at least you should be able to tell that 2.22 =/= 2.86 which is ridiculously strong evidence that 3.33 w/ CoD + Demon spark =/= a "natural" 3.33 + Demon spark in terms of aps.

    Max Interval + Demon CoD
    .15 + (.15x.7) - (.15 x.25) = .2175 rounds down to .2 = 5 aps you sexy beast you~

    Max interval (minus r8 chest) + Demon CoD
    .2 + (.2 x.7) - (.2 x .25) = .29 rounds up to .3 = 3.33 aps LOL!! Q_Q for you go cash shop more.

    Max Interval + Sage CoD
    .15 + (.15 x1) - (.15 x 0 <--- cause ur fail sage :O) = .3 =3.33 aps ... thank god for culti swaps

    A_noob SS
    at the time there was no Demon CoD assuming max interval and lvl 10 CoD (Hey mayb it wasn't level 10 ?)

    .15 + (.15x.1) - (.15x.25) = .2625 rounds to .25 or 4.0 aps. I don't presume to know how the picture was made but unless the game mechanics change at .15 interval then 5.0 aps from JUST Demon sparking w/ LEVEL TEN CoD was unacheivable at that time. Theorteically you could do it with a very insane genie, a weapon w/ the beserker mod and a moderatley insane genie, a lower level CoD w/ DoTs in armor, or something else.

    original post
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=718442&highlight=math+check

    p.s. I am kinda assuming max interval results in .15 cause i don't wanna check atm
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Ruvil - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Max Interval + Demon CoD
    .15 + (.15x.7) - (.15 x.25) = .2175 rounds down to .2 = 5 aps you sexy beast you~

    Max interval (minus r8 chest) + Demon CoD
    .2 + (.2 x.7) - (.2 x .25) = .29 rounds up to .3 = 3.33 aps LOL!! Q_Q for you go cash shop more.

    Max Interval + Sage CoD
    .15 + (.15 x1) - (.15 x 0 <--- cause ur fail sage :O) = .3 =3.33 aps ... thank god for culti swaps

    b:laugh I lol'ed at this part b:chuckle. Yeah you are right. That's bad math on my part (Archers b:angry). This is the picture and I think I and a lot of people assumed it was level 10 CoD due to the 50 attack level, 20 from Frenzy. It was probably lower level CoD and DoT on armor.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Ruvil - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Verry long wall of text

    Let's go the number shall we?
    http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6159/61348498.jpg the picture itself, for starters.

    Now on the lvl of CoD:
    Attack lvl is a grand total of 50. 30 from lvl 10 chill, and 20 from frenzy

    The original thread:
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=711812

    Notice the date is before jones blessing, so you can rule that out to

    You can also see demon spark, frenzy, and chill of deep in the screeny
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Let's go the number shall we?
    http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6159/61348498.jpg the picture itself, for starters.

    Now on the lvl of CoD:
    Attack lvl is a grand total of 50. 30 from lvl 10 chill, and 20 from frenzy

    The original thread:
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=711812

    Notice the date is before jones blessing, so you can rule that out to

    You can also see demon spark, frenzy, and chill of deep in the screeny

    He could've had DoT's in armor like we said...
  • Ruvil - Sanctuary
    Ruvil - Sanctuary Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    oo0oo the picture for just a moment.

    If you just use the formula it will turn up the correct aps w/ CoD and demonspark (.1 for lvl 10/sage and .7 for Demon CoD). But when you apply the formula to the A_noob pic 4.0 aps turns up not 5.0 [if you assume the pic is what you first thought it was]. Either the picture is not what most people think it is, or the formula is wrong (which it's not but go ahead and try to show that it is.)

    As I already said w/ demon CoD my aps is 2.0 when I demon spark my aps goes to 2.22
    w/o demon CoD and when i remove .2 interval, my aps goes to 2.0 (the same), when I demon spark my aps goes to 2.86.

    Isn't it pretty obvious that this ^ means that starting from the SAME aps before demon spark results in DIFFERENT final aps's after demon spark when comparing CoD active vs no CoD. Therefore the basis for explaining the A_noob pic is also wrong? (.15 doubles to .3 and .3 results in 5.0 when sparked the SAME way it does for a no CoD situation, except as shown above it doesn't).

    I can understand that the A_noob picture is easier to grasp and believe. But the math is also there though it is EXTREMELY difficult to understand (OMGz addition, subtraction, AND multiplication!! too hard >_<).

    Just get on a sin and test it out for yourselves.



    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=47a034747f316875

    5 (nirvana) + 21 (lvl 4 cod 70%) + 8 (atk blessing) = 34 atk lvl + 16 dots (out of 18 potential remaining slots) = 50 atk lvl + Frenzy = 70 atk level lol =/

    I don't think this is the setup that A_noob was using. This would be a 5.0 70 attack level assassin, pre-jones blessing w/ 9560 hp unbuffed so... yea ^_^;;

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