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Prohibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »Gear-wise Rad and Enrage aren't amazingly different - Rad just blows, hardcore.
Been over this before... the core group of enrage are much much better equipped than any other single guild around. It is the combination of better equips, strategy, and tw skill/experience that makes them unbeatable at the moment, because no 1 other guild even comes close.
Keep waiting for someone to challenge you, because as redmenace said, it won't happen any time in the near future.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »Been over this before... the core group of enrage are much much better equipped than any other single guild around. It is the combination of better equips, strategy, and tw skill/experience that makes them unbeatable at the moment, because no 1 other guild even comes close.
Keep waiting for someone to challenge you, because as redmenace said, it won't happen any time in the near future.
Define "core group" - which Enrage players have gear that nobody in Rad can compare to? I can't think of very many that would make that big of a difference b:surrender[SIGPIC]http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4183/sgtdrunkramble.png[/SIGPIC]
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I dunno, am I considered core? I guess not, cuz the only piece of good gear I have is my bow.0
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Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »I dunno, am I considered core? I guess not, cuz the only piece of good gear I have is my bow.
u blow gtfo.
On a serious note - $20 says one of the mentioned "core players" is going to be GSX_R, ****in +12 hax **** ****..[SIGPIC]http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4183/sgtdrunkramble.png[/SIGPIC]
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MsE is such a killer.. she kills and kils and kills more[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"0
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Prohibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »Define "core group" - which Enrage players have gear that nobody in Rad can compare to? I can't think of very many that would make that big of a difference b:surrender
Not many but it evens itself out since alot of Rad are better geared than alot in Enrage ... Where they **** us over is in teamwork, experience etc . Cant knock them for being good at TW.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »Been over this before... the core group of enrage are much much better equipped than any other single guild around. It is the combination of better equips, strategy, and tw skill/experience that makes them unbeatable at the moment, because no 1 other guild even comes close.
Keep waiting for someone to challenge you, because as redmenace said, it won't happen any time in the near future.
Not only do I continue to disagree with you about Enrage having better gear than Radiance. Few weeks ago I would have said its almost exactly the same. In recent days the most likely 80 people Radiance sends to fight Enrage's 80 people is actually better geared than those in Enrage. Not by much but by a very small amount. Not sure how much longer Enrage can have an advantage in 2 of the 3 lanes for much longer.
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asdfasdfasdfProhibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »Define "core group"[SIGPIC]http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4183/sgtdrunkramble.png[/SIGPIC]
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We will continue to disagree then, but certainly from my point of view, enrage out-equip rad basically in every class.
I don't see rad having 38k hp barbs or 20k hp bms, rank 8 wizzie, 4x rank 8 archers (sure, they have 1), rank 8 sin, +12 weap veno. Add to that the average enrage player is better geared (hp, defence, armour-wise) than the average rad player... when TE fought rad a few weeks ago, most rads were fairly easy to kill. Sure I have rank 8, but even then, it shouldn't be easy for me to kill well equipped players- the fact that i was able to get 100+ kills in TWs vs rad is a good indication that they are quite squishy in general and cannot even take down a squishy cleric quickly.
Wall, you are a cata barb and obviously have not been TWing against enrage for a long time, so in my opinion, you cannot be a good judge of the equip difference between the 2 guilds.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »We will continue to disagree then, but certainly from my point of view, enrage out-equip rad basically in every class.
I don't see rad having 38k hp barbs or 20k hp bms, rank 8 wizzie, 4x rank 8 archers (sure, they have 1), rank 8 sin, +12 weap veno. Add to that the average enrage player is better geared (hp, defence, armour-wise) than the average rad player... when TE fought rad a few weeks ago, most rads were fairly easy to kill. Sure I have rank 8, but even then, it shouldn't be easy for me to kill well equipped players- the fact that i was able to get 100+ kills in TWs vs rad is a good indication that they are quite squishy in general and cannot even take down a squishy cleric quickly.
Wall, you are a cata barb and obviously have not been TWing against enrage for a long time, so in my opinion, you cannot be a good judge of the equip difference between the 2 guilds.
We dont have any rank 8 sin. b:sad[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Yea..no rank 8 sin
Surely..the top geared Enrage people are far better then the top geared people in Rad, but 5~ people like that don't make a TW.[SIGPIC]http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/image.php?u=14463705003&type=sigpic&dateline=1322469658[/SIGPIC]0 -
MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: ». Sure I have rank 8, but even then, it shouldn't be easy for me to kill well equipped players- the fact that i was able to get 100+ kills in TWs vs rad is a good indication that they are quite squishy in general and cannot even take down a squishy cleric quickly.
You have enough TW experience to know that even though you're are credited for a kill very rarely is it your's alone. Most of the time it's 4+ people all hitting one target.
We had players come out the last 3 hour Enrage fight with a 70+ kill count .... Does that make Enrage squishy in general ? ofc not because those kills are not 1 v 1 so they dont = the targets/characters strength.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
70+ kills is alot? b:surprised[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Fyren - Heavens Tear wrote: »70+ kills is alot? b:surprised
It is for a Barb b:chuckle j/k
But no there where a few Archers with alot more ( damn your pointy arrows ) but was only an example not an exercise in e-peenor[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I see more rad with around +8-+10 gear, but i definitely see more Enrage with +12 gear.
Then there are those randoms who are wasting their time in Drakon-ElectricFox, Tabbata, Leolord, jimbo?, and a ton of others who have quite good gear and are wasting it in that guildb:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Having +8-10 weaps mean nothing if you die easily- like I said, in general, enrage members survive a lot better than rad's- this is probably a combination of better equips and better pvp skill.
hmmm no r8 sin? my mistake then... add mefe to the list of r8 archers (?) instead. And it's more than the top 5-10 ppl; the point I was trying to make is that enrage have those well equipped people and rad doesn't.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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Prohibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »u blow gtfo.
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Prohibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »u blow gtfo.
On a serious note - $20 says one of the mentioned "core players" is going to be GSX_R, ****in +12 hax **** ****..
Congrats!
You're the first "sore winner" I've ever met.
RedMenace
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Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »Congrats!
You're the first "sore winner" I've ever met.
RedMenace
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Congrats!
You completely avoided a response to my post - good job proving my point that you're both completely wrong and really ****ing stupid.
Just an FYI, the post that you quoted wasn't serious at all and was meant to be taken as a joke. L2comprehend?
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DUTY_CALLS - Heavens Tear: "I QUIT THE FORM'S FROM NOW U ALL JUST FORM TROLL'S AND TALK **** ALL TIME MEET ME IN PvP U GOT SOMTHING TO SAYb:shocked"0 -
Prohibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »You completely avoided a response to my post - good job proving my point that you're both completely wrong and really ****ing stupid.
Just an FYI, the post that you quoted wasn't serious at all and was meant to be taken as a joke. L2comprehend?
Bless your heart - you're just a little Rage Machine, arent you?
I'll speak slowly for you, then.
I agree that one of Enrage's strengths is the coordination and experience they have in TW. However, as I said in the beginning anyone who wants to take them down will have to *start* with ridiculously heavy gear (cash-shoppers) to even get in the door. *Then* they have to get damn good in TW.
The above explanation is for the rest of the people in the thread, as you're kinda busy flailing around like a p*ssed off trout to understand that we actually agree on several things.
DON'T YOU GO CHANGIN', SKIPPER!
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btw, fun TW, Dominus... where do you get all those wizzies from? :O
I can survive one, two... but 4 hitting at the same time plus a nix, an archer and a bm... b:cry
I had no luck trying to get a res from you guys inside your HQ... b:sad mean people see a hurt person and dont help!
ty for all the kills (and I'll avenge my deaths b:angry) LOL :P0 -
38k Hp Barbs? I Wish I Was. I Am No Where Near That Or Have High Refines On My Gear. It's Ok I Am Ok With Being A Fail Barb No Biggy.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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When I go to sleep, I have 38k hp.0
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I didnt know any barb in Enrage at this moment got above 30k hp... As I recall Domgrath and Doghunter are no longer in Enrage...
I think Radiance and Enrage are pretty equal gearwise, its the Enrage TW skills that are better, we dont have that teamwork in Radiance, a lot of new players etc, even though its old good players we need to give it some more time.. Hopefully ppl from Enrage wont leave right away or quit when its all blue.. I would really like to be a part of beating Enrage at their best so we dont have to listen to all that **** in the future that Enrage was the best back in the days and nothing in the future can compare to it.. its always like that, the mind make up funny things at times... Enrage is probably better on using useful pots for survivability, better squad leaders and target callers etc. And more +12 weapons also help... This weekend and next weekend can be totally different I think.. .Enrage will still win most likely but I think its time we give em a good fight.. and I can TW vs Enrage for the first time in Radiance. wohoo b:cute
If the attendance and teamwork/squadleaders are good.. TW will be fun once again, so keep your hats on Enrage, we are coming b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] OH really? What a surprise.0 -
But then Rad will become the new Enrage if that happens. <__<[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Exegesis - Heavens Tear wrote: »I didnt know any barb in Enrage at this moment got above 30k hp... As I recall Domgrath and Doghunter are no longer in Enrage...
I think Radiance and Enrage are pretty equal gearwise, its the Enrage TW skills that are better, we dont have that teamwork in Radiance, a lot of new players etc, even though its old good players we need to give it some more time.. Hopefully ppl from Enrage wont leave right away or quit when its all blue.. I would really like to be a part of beating Enrage at their best so we dont have to listen to all that **** in the future that Enrage was the best back in the days and nothing in the future can compare to it.. its always like that, the mind make up funny things at times... Enrage is probably better on using useful pots for survivability, better squad leaders and target callers etc. And more +12 weapons also help... This weekend and next weekend can be totally different I think.. .Enrage will still win most likely but I think its time we give em a good fight.. and I can TW vs Enrage for the first time in Radiance. wohoo
If the attendance and teamwork/squadleaders are good.. TW will be fun once again, so keep your hats on Enrage, we are coming b:bye
Doghunter quit awhile ago. Domgrath still pulling cats for us b:cute. Feel bad for the guy's charm though b:sad This is exactly the kind of attitude that HT needs. Can't blame Enrage for taking the map we are only 180-190 peeps when there are far more people on this server. Everyone keeps bashing Radiance for their poor showings, but that isn't the case at all. They have been attacking and are trying to take our crystal so of course they have to risk their HQ, thus meaning shorter TWs. They field 80 competent TW members each time. 200k charm tick in 17min TWsb:shocked. They have the ability on any given night to draw out 3hr tws or win in the future. Oh and people say Enrage outgear people. I know plenty of regular TWers that have +6 or lower weaps and under +5 gear.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
We had a 30K barb who did not pull catapults regularly. I'm not sure if he's 30K anymore; he stat'd some more offensive stats lately. He was a killing barb, not a puller...you might not have noticed unless you were hit by his armageddon xDExegesis - Heavens Tear wrote: »I didnt know any barb in Enrage at this moment got above 30k hp... As I recall Domgrath and Doghunter are no longer in Enrage...
I think Radiance and Enrage are pretty equal gearwise, its the Enrage TW skills that are better, we dont have that teamwork in Radiance, a lot of new players etc, even though its old good players we need to give it some more time.. Hopefully ppl from Enrage wont leave right away or quit when its all blue.. I would really like to be a part of beating Enrage at their best so we dont have to listen to all that **** in the future that Enrage was the best back in the days and nothing in the future can compare to it.. its always like that, the mind make up funny things at times... Enrage is probably better on using useful pots for survivability, better squad leaders and target callers etc. And more +12 weapons also help... This weekend and next weekend can be totally different I think.. .Enrage will still win most likely but I think its time we give em a good fight.. and I can TW vs Enrage for the first time in Radiance. wohoo b:cute
If the attendance and teamwork/squadleaders are good.. TW will be fun once again, so keep your hats on Enrage, we are coming b:bye0 -
I will stop trying to get my point across about equips because it clearly isn't going to work. Believe wat u will, just don't think teamwork and strategy will get you close to winning TWs without having decent equips.
Last thing I will say is this... in my opinion, rad's DDs are overall much much weaker than enrage's, both in terms of damage and hp. There are maybe 3-5 DDs who are particularly good in rad, there are 20 who stand out in enrage. As I said earlier, equips alone isn't the reason, it is a combination of equips, strategy, and pvp skill.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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Prohibited - Heavens Tear wrote: »As you can see, none of those listed are in Enrage but all have amazing gear. Let me break it down for you simply, since you seem to be a bit on the slow side - Enrage isn't relying on amazing gear, it's relying on months and sometimes years of cooperation and tactics. Lots of the core squads in Enrage haven't changed much over the past year and work together very well.
Cut the ****. We all know the best of Caesar, Radiance and every other decent (geared and experienced) guild members are in Enrage right now. They just lowered their (ethical) standards and joined the scum of HT for a simulacra of glory.
Note that most of the rest have just left. For better PW skies, not necessarily International.
And that's where PW life (and fun) really starts.
Blame it on the friggin' bullies*, hehe.
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ExELFine - Heavens Tear wrote: »Cut the ****. We all know the best of Caesar, Radiance and every other decent (geared and experienced) guild members are in Enrage right now. They just lowered their (ethical) standards and joined the scum of HT for a simulacra of glory.
Note that most of the rest have just left. For better PW skies, not necessarily International.
And that's where PW life (and fun) really starts.
Blame it on the friggin' bullies*, hehe.
(*bullies: all and any of Enrage's members, period.)
Someone's butthurt.
The scum of HT (or any server for that matter) is stupid people like you.0
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