Why does Safety Lock allow players to pick up items?
k344y007
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I mean seriously if they just disabled up picking items as well for safety lock, there wouldn't be so many people using it. Instead they had to invent this stupid shatter system where it becomes useless now cuz all lands gives out mirages. Of course they might have had a valid reason for not implementing it in the safety lock, but why haven't they? I mean cmon it shouldve crossed their minds before.
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Ya and how come people with Safety Lock are allowed to move forward??I
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Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Ya and how come people with Safety Lock are allowed to move forward??
I lol'd.
But I do agree there should be bigger setbacks to people using safety lock.0 -
actually I would like it.
Now I cannot join a fb because I might get a drop and cant give in back...0 -
I mean seriously if they just disabled up picking items as well for safety lock, there wouldn't be so many people using it. Instead they had to invent this stupid shatter system where it becomes useless now cuz all lands gives out mirages. Of course they might have had a valid reason for not implementing it in the safety lock, but why haven't they? I mean cmon it shouldve crossed their minds before.
Hey, what are you complaining about? The safety lock system is perfect as it is. GTFO b:bye0 -
Agreed, SL should also have penatlies other then shattering.
But I doubt PW cares tbh. Well actually it would make people buy more dolls so they should implant this idea.0 -
i have an idea
completly remove safety lock
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pk mode item drop upon death is removed.Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.0 -
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Here's the best idea ever...
they should GET RID OF SAFETY LOCK *&* the SHATTER SYSTEM -- ALL TOGETHER!
problem solved !0 -
The real question is why does safety lock even exist? It is the worst change they have ever made to the game. TW and TT changes included.0
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Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »i have an idea
completly remove safety lock
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pk mode item drop upon death is removed.
That would be complete BS; it would remove the reason to PK in the first place! The game was designed so that if you're red, you drop. There are ways to stop from loosing your most important things, and this is called binding or carrying (formerly dolls) scrolls. I think if people can't "pay to play", then don't freakin play (meaning if you cannot bind stuff you don't wanna loose, or cannot carry dolls/scrolls; then DONT PK) I think SL is total **** because now it's a "free" (cheating to me) way out of preventing item drop on PK; the system is utter ****. Seriously this whole system needs to be removed, so we can play the game the way the developers initially INTENDED this game to BE PLAYED !!!0 -
Foxgrit - Lost City wrote: »The real question is why does safety lock even exist? It is the worst change they have ever made to the game. TW and TT changes included.
Safety lock exists so people can prevent hackers & other unauthorized people who access their account from taking all their stuff. However when it didnt lock PK drops, the unauthorized accessors exploited this, and just PKed the inventory & gear out of people. So they expanded it into PK drops. The fact that people use this protection for intentional PvP protection is to a certain extent an exploit of the intended use of the SL system. SHatter was then implemented because they couldnt figure out some way to block unauthorized access PK loss while still allowing regular PK drops. This way no gear is lost but there's still a penalty, so the people trying to steal from an account cant use PK to get past safety lock.0 -
Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »Safety lock exists so people can prevent hackers & other unauthorized people who access their account from taking all their stuff. However when it didnt lock PK drops, the unauthorized accessors exploited this, and just PKed the inventory & gear out of people. So they expanded it into PK drops. The fact that people use this protection for intentional PvP protection is to a certain extent an exploit of the intended use of the SL system. SHatter was then implemented because they couldnt figure out some way to block unauthorized access PK loss while still allowing regular PK drops. This way no gear is lost but there's still a penalty, so the people trying to steal from an account cant use PK to get past safety lock.
Which imo is ridiculous as they can just wait for sl to go off and tada now they can take everything
And you should shatter every time you die on multiple pieces of gear, as if you are red and dont have doll or **** sl on, you would lose a lot of stuff, sl is by far the most moronic thing in the game.0 -
Deora - Lost City wrote: »Which imo is ridiculous as they can just wait for sl to go off and tada now they can take everything
And you should shatter every time you die on multiple pieces of gear, as if you are red and dont have doll or **** sl on, you would lose a lot of stuff, sl is by far the most moronic thing in the game.
Removing SL would kill at least half of the PvP on a PvE server. GAs are too expensive for hyper noobs who can't even afford their gear.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
pwcalc.com/e7016929e7b204ae "Pure axe" 8k HP multipath BM, last one of my kind.0 -
Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »Removing SL would kill at least half of the PvP on a PvE server. GAs are too expensive for hyper noobs who can't even afford their gear.
would seriously kill any casual PvP...
get out of sz...sin with +12 pops out of stealth...dead w/o dmg log...1st doll
rank8 archer with +12 approaches...2nd doll
wiz with nirvana +12 casts bids...3rd doll
occult ice...fisted to dead by a bm...4th doll
nix comes from above fleshreams you...5th doll
you just die too often if you don't cashshop...i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss0 -
^ what Regen said
either learn to use SL or go find another game. Pvp on pvp servers are dead as it is, giving SL more penalties would be the stupidest thing PWI could do in regards to the pvp aspect of the game (unless they made dolls 75% or so cheaper).
Besides what does it matter to the OP if another person uses SL? they'd just bound their gear if SL wasn't an option, it's not like ur gonna be getting any drops. As a matter a fact ur more likely to get someone's drops if they forget to reset the SL while in pvp. Without SL ur 99% of the time gonna get squat from drops since they'd be bound.0 -
why you guys trying to fix things that work ?
just care for other things that ruining PVP like jones blessings
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Safety lock took all the fun out of PVP. PWI without PVP is a joke. That is why right after safety lock was changed I quit playing. Now I only log in when the damn woman nags me to death and its for 5-10 minutes then I get the hell off this horrible game.
Occasional forum trolling can be fun though.0 -
Deora - Lost City wrote: »Which imo is ridiculous as they can just wait for sl to go off and tada now they can take everything
And you should shatter every time you die on multiple pieces of gear, as if you are red and dont have doll or **** sl on, you would lose a lot of stuff, sl is by far the most moronic thing in the game.
They have a safe service code which you can implement, haven't tested it out fully yet and don't know how effective it is yet. Basically you have to enter a password to get to your items in the banker, fyi. I think it doesnt allow you to remove gear from your inventory as well.
Sorry don't know how to multiquote, -->Bowlinbob.
I'm fine with people using the safety lock, i just find it insanely stupid that they're allowed to loot the players that they pk, while if they die they have a 100 percent guarantee of not dropping anything. ANd no i don't think pvp will go down if they just implemented this one feature because you could always go and pvp for fun, just that your not allowed to pick up the person's loot. Of course there are the issues of having some lowbie trailing you on a second computer and picking up your victim's stuff. So maybe people pked by people with safety lock aren't allowed to drop stuff? I don't know, it just gets complicated, I just want people with sl unable to pick up ****b:angry
edit: yea they're bound to bind everything after if there wasn't a sl to use, uhhh i don't have a good argument against that yet...
2nd edit: reread the posts and I completely agree with sparc about the way people are using safety lock. If people are afraid of losing their stuff, it's their fault for pking in the first place. Besides safety lock allows people like levii to just randomly pk without a care in the world, at least make them earn that stupid carefree pk by binding their gear. I thought you guys "hated" people who don't earn their stuff -_-.0 -
lol take out safety lock... people are complaining about pvping against same faces all the time and you wanna make dropping items more frequent...
imagine how many people will stop pvping (or avoid it in PvP servers)
want to know why most people don't like PK? I mean, not those "same faces" of elite ones on the server. Because they don't like getting owned. Most of them. And the rest who do go into PvP mode only do it because they can't lose their stuff.
If you remove SL you'll have PvP drop to 10% of what it is now ijsFirst 103 on Raging Tide 30 Oct 2010
Quit.0 -
WHAT??? AND I THOUGHT SHATTERED GEAR WAS BAD ENOUGH
... OMG I HOPE NO ONE PK ME WHEN I GO ABOVE 30 AGAIN b:cry The one and only... demon_troll... i will be pwn when i go demon again >)0 -
Demon_EA - Harshlands wrote: »WHAT??? AND I THOUGHT SHATTERED GEAR WAS BAD ENOUGH... OMG I HOPE NO ONE PK ME WHEN I GO ABOVE 30 AGAIN b:cry
C'mon you had bold red text now bold PINK text?
You know it's annoying to reader's eyes,don't you?By the way,are you emo?b:laughI hate idiots,but I'm forced to stay near them!0 -
I don't understand. Why complain about sl when you can.... You know... Use it for free? That's like saying "I don't want to use a mount, so no one else should be able to either"
And I thought the point of pking was to test your abilities against a living, thinking opponent. Not to just try and get their gear. He'll, I'd even say you'd see a lot more pkers if you didn't drop gear on death. Instead of items dropping, make it where the redder you are the higher chance of shattering (avoidable by using GAs). That'll still give a punishment for being red.
There are many games out there that have other systems for pk besides drops, so don't say that's the only reason people pk (aka they have karma systems.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Sparc - Harshlands wrote: »That would be complete BS; it would remove the reason to PK in the first place! The game was designed so that if you're red, you drop. There are ways to stop from loosing your most important things, and this is called binding or carrying (formerly dolls) scrolls. I think if people can't "pay to play", then don't freakin play (meaning if you cannot bind stuff you don't wanna loose, or cannot carry dolls/scrolls; then DONT PK) I think SL is total **** because now it's a "free" (cheating to me) way out of preventing item drop on PK; the system is utter ****. Seriously this whole system needs to be removed, so we can play the game the way the developers initially INTENDED this game to BE PLAYED !!!
last time i checked pk was something fun
if i want gear i farm it... wheres the point?
dropping stuff sucks
more people would pk if there were no drops enabled at all (so no need for sl either, witch is annoying as it is for anything else but pk)
i guess you cash your dolls or have all your gear bound so you can farm poor people
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Ehh I just like to kill people, I couldn't give a rat's *** about your gear/items that end up on the ground, frankly I don't want them anyway I'd rather earn all my equip.
But I can tell you that when I pk I do exploit the lock, I do have a reasonably absurd timer on it and even if I don't care about your items that you dropped, I'm 10x less likely to leave my pc on and let lock dwindle away just so I can hand it back.
Pk w/o drops is wonderful imo, I prefer the game play against other people since there's still a fair lack of things to actually do in game to either make money for gear or do something for fun.
Let's face it, not many find playing with mobs to be of any interest once you've capped off your leveling to a large extent. The quest lines are boring, and unless you have some decent connections you're not filling a large quota of your piggy bank daily here w/o creating a second account to sit as your catshop and play who's the better under cutter.
At 100, you have
FF - for friends/self exp and help
Nirvana - better get to know the competent runners and become good friends
CoA - yea...
Dragon Temple - no comment, not interested really
Jungle Ruins - love it, I don't go in to even finish the place, just to do the quests and get event gold.
That aside the game is empty, pk is a great time filler, on the ground that you can
A) afford scrolls out the yang
turn on lock and enjoy not running instances where you may need to hand off an item
A "hardcore" gamer has the time to sit here, set up shop, log another account, sit around waiting for runs in chat, but the average player... rofl gl with that I'd say at around 7-9x the general gamer bails or hyper's up then says mmmm yea I'm bored and leaves for something with some actual entertainment value.
edit: my sleepy grammar b failI can see what you see not,
Vision milky, then eyes rot.
When you turn, they will be gone,
Whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be,
Shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind,
Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.0 -
if pk had no drop penalty i would definately do it more i would prob even switch to my 2nd fav server lost city lolb:victoryCollector of pet eggs, armor, weapons, fashion, and mountsb:chuckle0
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12something2 (maybe Asomethingka too) have the best pvp systems. Kill players to get the rarest items in game from drops (just like boss drops). Players don't lose anything, the game makes it all. How are you supposed to pvp when all your good items are gone or shattered? You just get weaker/poorer each time.0
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Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »would seriously kill any casual PvP...
get out of sz...sin with +12 pops out of stealth...dead w/o dmg log...1st doll
rank8 archer with +12 approaches...2nd doll
wiz with nirvana +12 casts bids...3rd doll
occult ice...fisted to dead by a bm...4th doll
nix comes from above fleshreams you...5th doll
you just die too often if you don't cashshop...
This is why I started using SL. Losing money to cashoppers? No, thank you.0 -
Foxgrit - Lost City wrote: »Safety lock took all the fun out of PVP. PWI without PVP is a joke. That is why right after safety lock was changed I quit playing. Now I only log in when the damn woman nags me to death and its for 5-10 minutes then I get the hell off this horrible game.
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So, let's say 2 white names without anything in their inventory go PvP...
they don't have fun anymore bc of SL? even though they wouldnt drop ***** in the first place
*facepalm*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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SneakyStalk - Harshlands wrote: »So, let's say 2 white names without anything in their inventory go PvP...
they don't have fun anymore bc of SL? even though they wouldnt drop ***** in the first place
*facepalm*
Correct me if I'm wrong.... but how can whitenames "go PvP" when after killing someone you're no longer white named? b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Squirrel - Harshlands wrote: »why you guys trying to fix things that work ?
just care for other things that ruining PVP like jones blessings
no1 have problem with SL
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