PWE Scheme
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Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »Submit a ticket and ask for a transfer.
If you havent done that and not recieved a negative answer then you have no basis for complaint (yet)
I have filed a ticket, but if you read in my 1st post frankieray already confirmed you will have to have an account stone to transfer.0 -
Desire - Dreamweaver wrote: »Well like i said before, it's a FREE gift. People should stop complaining about it, let's supose they didin't gave us anything, everyone would go and start drama/QQ etc threads whythey didin't gave us anything. People don't seems to understand , they at least should say thanks that they have it on alts or other characters then not having it at all. b:surrender
You could not be more wrong.0 -
Arclight - Harshlands wrote: »The actual gameplay and the way the devs run there busness are 2 different subjects. All your arguments are fail.
Edit on a sidenote I hate snakes but I love snacks.
its still the same business. but since the advantage (game play) out weight the disadvantages (this ****)... you'll still stick around. the management is actualy brilliant. they can **** with you as much as they want... as long as they give you something of more value... you'll stay around to get ****ed around with more. and as far as you are concened... they succeeded.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »since to use the free gift the way you want to use it requires you to spend money.
since every infomercial ever gives you a "gift" for buying something
the gift is free
the gift works exactly as its intended to work, at no cost to you
if you want to get more out of the gift, or use it how you want to use it, you can spend some money. or you can cry on the forums about it.
you think the people that win a car on a gameshow cry about not getting free gas, free tires, free oil changes etc.
"packs" is not much of a retort, buddy. especially since the existence of packs supports my position.
Ok then how come last year there was no strings attached? All you had to do was file a FREE ticket to get your FREE mount transferred to the toon you wanted.0 -
Demans - Lost City wrote: »er w8 didnt u just prove the other guy's point? doesnt that mean he wins? b:chuckle
No, I was pointing out that those damn things have been raking in cash hand-over-fist since last year, "gifting" people for an extra $15 stash-stone purchase is pretty low, especially while they pat themselves on the back for making it to Year 2. Where the latter is concerned, "making money" should not enter into it, and saying "oh, they're a corporation, that's their goal" is invalid in this case.
Likewise, telling people how useful the 'stash stone is, is completely besides the point of the argument. You're right - it's an amazing function - but it's tangential to the actual problem, that being PWE gives you something and then forces you into buying [item] if you want to get any use out of it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »its still the same business. but since the advantage (game play) out weight the disadvantages (this ****)... you'll still stick around. the management is actualy brilliant. they can **** with you as much as they want... as long as they give you something of more value... you'll stay around to get ****ed around with more. and as far as you are concened... they succeeded.
I have never been truly fcked cause Ive have never spent money on the game. So i guess there business maneuvers havent worked on me.0 -
Arclight - Harshlands wrote: »I have never been truly fcked cause Ive have never spent money on the game. So i guess there business maneuvers havent worked on me.
oh for god's sake... are you that dense... i'll try to make it pg13 for you. pwi can make you unhappy (this event)... but as long as they do something else to make you happy (game play)... you'll still around for the next time they decide to make you unhappy AGAIN.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
"AA I NEED TO BUY AN ACCOUNT STASH STONE TO USE MY NEW MOUNT QQ"
1) If you already have a mount on your highest character (and it has to be tradeable, the anniversary mount is I do believe the only mount that isn't) then why don't you just get a friend to help and transfer your tradeable mount?
Solutions have never been so simple.
2) The account stash stone isn't just used for trading an anniversary mount and the people saying the stash is a waste of fifteen gold have proven themselves to be complete morons.
- The account stash stone allows people to build up new alt characters for free if you already have a high level main who has the same gear your alt will one day use. No more arduous farming or paying out the *** for gear.
- The account stash stone cuts out the middle man, and since the invention of the account stash stone I haven't seen a single complaint of somebody saying "I asked a friend to help me transfer X to X but he didn't give it to my alt when I asked!" It's a safer way to transfer items between characters on the same account and you're complaining about it?
- The account stash stone is not only safer but it also doubles up as extra bank space. If you're like me your bank can fill up quickly as you horde items. The stash not only lets me move items onto other characters but doubles up as an awesome extra bank. My stash now acts as a mat bank. If only it had more slots, because now my account stash doesn't have that many spaces free.
- The transfer of bound items from one character to another was previously impossible. Now that you can transfer bound items, you don't have to destroy TT80 gold light armor on your archer and refarm it all to give it to your sin. See where this is going? I guess you guys also missed the MASSIVE QQ this caused when everybody who didn't buy one because they thought it was a rip off moaned about how unfair it was.
Pull your head out of your ***. 15 gold is a reasonable price for an account stash and the account stash itself is one of the more useful things that PWE have managed to offer.
This complaint did have some relevance to it until people decided to call the account stash **** and/or a waste of money. I then realised these people don't have a ****ing clue with regards to what they're talking about. Cry more that you were given a free gift and haven't taken the very obvious solution.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »oh for god's sake... are you that dense... i'll try to make it pg13 for you. pwi can make you unhappy (this event)... but as long as they do something else to make you happy (game play)... you'll still around for the next time they decide to make you unhappy AGAIN.
Im dense yet you've been straying from the original argument in almost all your posts. We get it you work for PWE now take another 10 mins to think of something else to say.0 -
Svarius - Heavens Tear wrote: »To this and anyone else who feels like bringing up that ridiculous arguement, I have one word for you.Packs
You lose, good day.Svarius - Heavens Tear wrote: »No, I was pointing out that those damn things have been raking in cash hand-over-fist since last year, "gifting" people for an extra $15 stash-stone purchase is pretty low, especially while they pat themselves on the back for making it to Year 2. Where the latter is concerned, "making money" should not enter into it, and saying "oh, they're a corporation, that's their goal" is invalid in this case.
Likewise, telling people how useful the 'stash stone is, is completely besides the point of the argument. You're right - it's an amazing function - but it's tangential to the actual problem, that being PWE gives you something and then forces you into buying [item] if you want to get any use out of it.
no, first off they not forcing u to buy the item, second, u have to buy the item to GET ADDITIONAL USE from it, the primary use is to go on ur highest lv chacter and function as a free 11 m/s mount, they accomplished that. the mounts were sent FOR THAT PURPOSE , now if u wanna use it for something it was not intended for, then u have to spend some coin on a slightly expensive, let amazing item with multiple uses, but bottom line is, U GOT A FREE ITEM, IT DOES WHAT THEY PROMISED IT WOULD DO, NO MORE NO LESS BY ITSELFwell when ur LA psy has same wep grade and refine as ur pure AA wiz, hits as high per shot, has faster dps, and has 2x the crit %, time to retire the wiz............
dam op fishy....0 -
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/5charsI hate idiots,but I'm forced to stay near them!0 -
If you're an idiot and think it's a scam, NPC the mount. Problem solved.
Little whining babies... OMG I got a free Porsche! It's not in the color I want! *throws the keys in the trash*
What a bunch of morons.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Arclight - Harshlands wrote: »Ok then how come last year there was no strings attached? All you had to do was file a FREE ticket to get your FREE mount transferred to the toon you wanted.
1. because last year was last year, and this year is this year
2. because they realized they where missing an opportunity to make the purchase of a boutique item more appealing
3. on this point i may be wrong, but where account stash stones even being sold at this time last year?
4. because making money = profit
5. because if you never intend to spend any money on the game [making you a direct profit non-factor], and you aren't going to purchase gold from other players to buy things [making you an indirect non-factor] then you don't matter as far as making a profit, and if you don't matter for making a profit then you aren't even a consideration as far as the business is concerned.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »"AA I NEED TO BUY AN ACCOUNT STASH STONE TO USE MY NEW MOUNT QQ"
1) If you already have a mount on your highest character (and it has to be tradeable, the anniversary mount is I do believe the only mount that isn't) then why don't you just get a friend to help and transfer your tradeable mount?
Solutions have never been so simple.
2) The account stash stone isn't just used for trading an anniversary mount and the people saying the stash is a waste of fifteen gold have proven themselves to be complete morons.
- The account stash stone allows people to build up new alt characters for free if you already have a high level main who has the same gear your alt will one day use. No more arduous farming or paying out the *** for gear.
- The account stash stone cuts out the middle man, and since the invention of the account stash stone I haven't seen a single complaint of somebody saying "I asked a friend to help me transfer X to X but he didn't give it to my alt when I asked!" It's a safer way to transfer items between characters on the same account and you're complaining about it?
- The account stash stone is not only safer but it also doubles up as extra bank space. If you're like me your bank can fill up quickly as you horde items. The stash not only lets me move items onto other characters but doubles up as an awesome extra bank. My stash now acts as a mat bank. If only it had more slots, because now my account stash doesn't have that many spaces free.
- The transfer of bound items from one character to another was previously impossible. Now that you can transfer bound items, you don't have to destroy TT80 gold light armor on your archer and refarm it all to give it to your sin. See where this is going? I guess you guys also missed the MASSIVE QQ this caused when everybody who didn't buy one because they thought it was a rip off moaned about how unfair it was.
Pull your head out of your ***. 15 gold is a reasonable price for an account stash and the account stash itself is one of the more useful things that PWE have managed to offer.
This complaint did have some relevance to it until people decided to call the account stash **** and/or a waste of money. I then realised these people don't have a ****ing clue with regards to what they're talking about. Cry more that you were given a free gift and haven't taken the very obvious solution.
These points would be good if they were relevant to these topics...
1. Is the account stash useful? What are its pros and cons?
2. Is the price of account stones reasonable?
Unfortunately for you these arent the topics at hand.
The topic was about PWE's shady business practices.0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »If you're an idiot and think it's a scam, NPC the mount. Problem solved.
Little whining babies... OMG I got a free Porsche! It's not in the color I want! *throws the keys in the trash*
What a bunch of morons.
But throwing the keys away... you are still stuck with the Porsche b:chuckleMadness?
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SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »3. on this point i may be wrong, but where account stash stones even being sold at this time last year?
OMG BINGO.
Account stash stones were introduced months after the first anniversary. You can guarantee that, had they been introduced beforehand, people would have been told to buy them if they wanted to transfer their mount back then, too.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Arclight - Harshlands wrote: »Im dense yet you've been straying from the original argument in almost all your posts. We get it you work for PWE now take another 10 mins to think of something else to say.
lol... just cause i don't cry about every little thing pwi does... i work for them. by your logic everyone who is of any value (in game) works for pwi. and only the worthless fillers of space are allow to speak out against pwi. that works for me.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf0 -
ZAPATON - Sanctuary wrote: »But throwing the keys away... you are still stuck with the Porsche b:chuckle
Not if it's parked in public.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Airyll - you're absolutely right about the 'stone being useful. Also about some people being idiots but... PWE forums. 'nuff said.
By page five, most people probably aren't even reading this comment, but I'll repeat anyway:
-Problem is not with account stone, or any other [item "X"]. It's PWE "gifting" us something, but then saying "pay up."
EDIT: good lord, I type slow today.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Games come and go - cinema lasts a lifetime. (Except VHS - that only lasts 15 years)
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For those who keeps reiterating that it's free, I can certainly see you guys rushing to send money after receiving an email congratulating you that you've won millions but you need to send money for administrative purposes just for you to get those millions. Or the emails that tells you the sender has a private stash of money somewhere but needs your help in moving the money out of the country. You guys are the kind of dim bulbs these scams are targeted at, after all it's free money.
Me? I'm just going to NPC the second anni mount. I thought I was only going to get the garment and blessings and not the mount otherwise I wouldn't have clicked on the link. Ends up now I have 3 mounts, 1st anni mount, 2nd anni mount and a 9 tails which I use. I would gladly have given the 2nd mount away to someone who needs a 11m/s mount and can't afford it but as it is right now, I have to NPC it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6J9LLe2Jlg<- One of my best loved piece of trance track0 -
Arclight - Harshlands wrote: »These points would be good if they were relevant to these topics...
1. Is the account stash useful? What are its pros and cons?
2. Is the price of account stones reasonable?
Unfortunately for you these arent the topics at hand.
The topic was about PWE's shady business practices.
Way to fail at reading.
1) Was a solution to your entire QQ. If you already have a mount on your highest character, transfer that one instead. You're sitting here complaining that you can't use that one particular mount yet I assume your highest levelled character already has one.
Now that you've just proven you are looking for a fight rather then actually searching for a solution this thread can be locked down. Your stupidity is quite incredible.
2) Explains how the stash is useful and that's it's also at a reasonable price, which also makes your complaint totally irrelevant. So again you completely ignore the second solution at hand, once again trying to pick a fight rather then find a solution.
It's this entire mentality you have that causes your own problems. You aren't willing to use the solutions people have offered you and you brush them off saying they "weren't listening" rather then accepting the fact they just told you how to fix your problem without any of this stupid bull**** of being scammed.
Get a life, you sad little moron. If you aren't willing to use the fixes that are available to you, you have no right to complain about the problem.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Arclight - Harshlands wrote: »These points would be good if they were relevant to these topics...
1. Is the account stash useful? What are its pros and cons?
2. Is the price of account stones reasonable?
Unfortunately for you these arent the topics at hand.
The topic was about PWE's shady business practices.
except it isn't shady, you just dont like it.Arclight - Harshlands wrote: »Im dense yet you've been straying from the original argument in almost all your posts. We get it you work for PWE now take another 10 mins to think of something else to say.
his ban count would seem to indicate otherwise.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
LeirtA - Lost City wrote: »For those who keeps reiterating that it's free, I can certainly see you guys rushing to send money after receiving an email congratulating you that you've won millions but you need to send money for administrative purposes just for you to get those millions.
If you win 10 million dollars, you have to pay taxes on it. A LOT of taxes. You probably would have 6 or 7 million left.
Invalid point.
You're a dim bulb if you think it's a scam.
b:byeI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
what kind of fail players got less than 15 bucks worth of coins with multiple 9x chars on same account? what kind of players didnt outlvled their main in a year? just asking...0
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SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »1. because last year was last year, and this year is this year
2. because they realized they where missing an opportunity to make the purchase of a boutique item more appealing
3. on this point i may be wrong, but where account stash stones even being sold at this time last year?
4. because making money = profit
5. because if you never intend to spend any money on the game [making you a direct profit non-factor], and you aren't going to purchase gold from other players to buy things [making you an indirect non-factor] then you don't matter as far as making a profit, and if you don't matter for making a profit then you aren't even a consideration as far as the business is concerned.
Then why say it's a gift?
I could care less about mounts and gifts, Im just sick of PWE and there money making schemes and the morons that follow them around like little lambs trying to defend them.
You guys act as if this is the 1st time theyve done something shady to make money. This is not how you treat customers in a respectable business but obviously PWE has proved time and time again there anything but respectable.0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »If you win 10 million dollars, you have to pay taxes on it. A LOT of taxes. You probably would have 6 or 7 million left.
Invalid point.
You're a dim bulb if you think it's a scam.
b:bye
LOLz whatever Mr dimmer bulb. You'd have more luck with the packs than winning at lottery.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6J9LLe2Jlg<- One of my best loved piece of trance track0 -
I cry about every little thing? Look at my post count and try again.Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »lol... just cause i don't cry about every little thing pwi does... i work for them. by your logic everyone who is of any value (in game) works for pwi. and only the worthless fillers of space are allow to speak out against pwi. that works for me.0 -
Thats it, ive had enough with this. I going to get a damn PWI card to buy the damn Supply Stash.
I give up. b:crytatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.0 -
Arclight - Harshlands wrote: »Then why say it's a gift?
I could care less about mounts and gifts, Im just sick of PWE and there money making schemes and the morons that follow them around like little lambs trying to defend them.
You guys act as if this is the 1st time theyve done something shady to make money. This is not how you treat customers in a respectable business but obviously PWE has proved time and time again there anything but respectable.
Wow... another moron.
You do realize the trend to give away free Anniversary Mounts pre-existed Account Stash?
You do realize that they stopped transferring free Anniversary Mounts the first time because there were thousands of requests and it was interrupting their actual job duities.
You do realize that if you have multiple accounts, the cost of an account stash is pretty cheap... you can even share bound gear. Mine only cost around 5m cause I bought mine when gold was about 330k.
Yes, they gave you a mount you cannot sell. QQ.
So use the mount on your main and give your alt one of your other mounts. Problem solved.
Bunch of brainless monkeys, the lot of you.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Lol your the one not reading I never complained about not being able to use the mount and never asked for a solution. My problem was the way PWE does business. Understand now?Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »Way to fail at reading.
1) Was a solution to your entire QQ. If you already have a mount on your highest character, transfer that one instead. You're sitting here complaining that you can't use that one particular mount yet I assume your highest levelled character already has one.
Now that you've just proven you are looking for a fight rather then actually searching for a solution this thread can be locked down. Your stupidity is quite incredible.
2) Explains how the stash is useful and that's it's also at a reasonable price, which also makes your complaint totally irrelevant. So again you completely ignore the second solution at hand, once again trying to pick a fight rather then find a solution.
It's this entire mentality you have that causes your own problems. You aren't willing to use the solutions people have offered you and you brush them off saying they "weren't listening" rather then accepting the fact they just told you how to fix your problem without any of this stupid bull**** of being scammed.
Get a life, you sad little moron. If you aren't willing to use the fixes that are available to you, you have no right to complain about the problem.0
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