message from Frankieraye about TW

Yishuin - Sanctuary

i see nobody has noted this before!

frankieraye wrote:

I love TW. It and the Gold Trade system are my two favorite parts about PWI; TW brings factions together for a hardcore, team-oriented endgame event. The Gold Trade system makes it so that no player is excluded from the Cash Shop, as long as they're willing to put time and effort into the game. These two systems are what differentiate PWI from every other F2P out there.

frankieraye wrote:

A lot of things caused inflation, including grinding, questing, DQ item vendoring, decomposing gear into Mirage Celestones and vendoring them, 10M big notes, and weekly TW income payouts. TW income is not the only culprit, but it does add about 2.4 billion coins to the economy every month, which is substantial.

Damn is this serious? Ok i agree TW old payment was a bit high as it has been said but this was said also :

frankieraye wrote:

We do not insist that TW income is the sole cause of inflation

Of course its not.

But something interested has been pointed out : 10m big notes (so packs)

The real problem about inflation is not really TW, its not really grinding. Its the b:cry packs itself.

We are playing in a F2P game where gold is 350-380k when packs are not in boutique but when packs are in its 400-450k.

Why? its very simple : people put gold at 350-380k when packs are not in boutique because they know packs will come back very fast (right now we have packs each week).

Anniversary packs were anniversary "boutique event" it should have stayed an anniversary event but its not the case. Packs come everytime in different form but they are still packs.

frankieraye wrote:

The Gold Trade system makes it so that no player is excluded from the Cash Shop, as long as they're willing to put time and effort into the game

Its totally right. But with packs thats not the case. Only cash shopper are able right now to enjoy the boutique. All the others are not cause gold is too high due to the packs.

Putting effort into the game? lets watch a bit closely at what is happening right now ok? :

i have farmed wine mat for 4 hours. Its something like 100 of each mats for bh 69 and 79 wines. With tokens i was only able to make 900k coins with it.

The day after I have grinded for the same amount of time (4 hours) and guess what? i have made 1.2m coins (even with DQ price reduction)

Is this serious? grinding is more efficient than farming mats! b:shocked

And you see? its all about tokens wich come from? PACKS!!

I agree packs are great in some way. However making them permanent in boutique is a big mistake.

CONCLUSION :

if there is a real motivation to cause inflation, the pack's system should be redesigned seriously.

Thanks for reading.

tweakz

Another QQ thread about the non existent issue of the economy.

The economy is fine.

axt57

Yishuin - Sanctuary wrote: »

i see nobody has noted this before!

This has been noted since the first day the anniversay packs came out.

PWE just chooses to ignore that though, and focuses on cutting down inflation by lower DQ price, remove TW pay etc to counter-balance the inflation caused by the 10m bank notes.

This way they still get to sell their anniversay packs (poorly disguising them each month as something else) and try to have a more stable economy.

Ultimately this leads to a worsened player experience, but as we know thats the least of PWE's worries.

As for packs being redesigned - don't hold your breath. Right now they are completely perfect as far as PWE sees them.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Stop spamming the forums when there are already official discussion threads to post in.

Miugre - Heavens Tear

You were lucky to make 1.2m in 4 hours, I'd say.

That means 300k/hour on grinding spoils alone... DQ, mostly. If I could make that much grinding, I would do hardly anything else. In all honesty though, we need grinding back. It's all about instance farming and striving for super-gears, now. I say, who cares?

Grinding is, quite frankly, the only fair ground that players can stand on anymore. Anyone can do it, anyone can make money from it... theoretically. But the DQ price drop, and the game's built-in decline of DQ drop rates from higher-level mobs, have made grinding unprofitable.

Why should I not be able to grind for at least 100k/hour? Is that inherently "inferior" to running instances to farm mats? I agree the rewards should be gradually higher if you do tougher activities, but come on - I think we can all agree that grinding at 90+ makes you barely any money unless double drops are on (to say nothing of the poor barbs - I bet some of them grind at a loss due to their repair bills).

Remove 10 million big notes from the Best Luck trade options. Permenantly double the drop rate on DQ items (and, if you ask me, everything else). These are things that simply need to happen.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Stop spamming the forums when there are already official discussion threads to post in.

Meh I for one find it interesting, I totally missed where frankie said it in the other threads... lol. =x

Either way you are right, lots of threads to discuss this already. =x Though I seriously doubt I would have read it if this was in the official topic. =x lol

Darkarim - Archosaur

hi....

TheUnderLord - Lost City

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

Stop spamming the forums when there are already official discussion threads to post in.

+1
can I get the linkz plz, I'm lazy

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

2010........

krittycat

Closed for necro.