Rank 9 is here...

Cybetron - Harshlands

Rank 9 is finally here and this time the barb's weapon is comparable to that of the other classes.

The armor's base stats are the same as Cascade Glow but the rank 9 has 300 more m def (doesn't really have that great an effect endgame, probably a 1% mag damage decrease?). The best part is that it seems rank 9 armor cannot be shattered. It has no endurance to it.

The best thing about rank 9 is our weapon b:dirty http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/28510
As powerful as the warsoul but not sure if it costs more or less.

The ring/badge is practically the best in game. Crit, Def, Channeling and Accuracy.

Wonder if at least now we would see barbs going for Rank equipment like other classes do. b:chuckle

This time though, Magic sword isn't that great. It has the same attack as rank8 but has -10% chan which isn't used by many. The bow receives a HUGE bonus with the Spirit Blackhole debuff and a significant increase in the attack with attack level increase.

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

after reading that the weapon has the "zerk" option on it, I'd personally prefer to go with the Warsoul instead. I agree that the ring is quite nice. Would be awesome to equip two of themb:victory

as for cost of the Warsoul, we can look at the PWI ultimate weapon guide to see the following sure fire, though not only, method:

Requires:

Mysterious Chip 788 16875000 Warsoul: Ksitigarbha Fragment 1 100%

Mysterious Chip 788 16875000 Warsoul: Vajra Fragment 1 100%

Mysterious Chip 315 6750000 Warsoul: Samantabhadra Fragment 1 100%

Mysterious Chip 158 3375000 Warsoul: Manjusri Fragment 1 100%

Mysterious Chip 473 10125000 Warsoul: Arkarsja Fragment 1 100%

Mysterious Chip 473 10125000 Warsoul: Jakari Fragment 1 100%

Mysterious Chip 158 3375000 Warsoul: Avalokites Fragment 1 100%

To put in terms of game coins only (not US dollarsb:surrender):
3,153 chips
assuming one never opens their stash box to receive a total of 40 chips...
chips available in stacks of 10 by trading in 9 tokens:

3,153 / 10 = 315.3 (thus 316 chip boxes)
316 * 9 * 12,000 = 34,128,000

green figures above are coin needed to trade chips for warsoul mats so figuring those in we come to...
101,628,000 coins, give or take a few million depending on token rates at any given time (assuming my calculator aint broke). So umm, yeah. If gold is going at a 400k average thats gonna be $254 USD, give or take a few dollars depending on gold rates. IIRC thats about 50 bucks more than a legendary veno pet. As to how much the Rank 9 weapon costs after even getting the badge in the first place.. I've no real idea the value on the items needed to obtain it.

Blood_Panda - Raging Tide

-10% channelling makes it worth the while. since magic class usually cast spell instead of normal wacking.

but 300k rep? unless they come up with rep dailys.. it will be hard to even reach 200k

Ladyhellcatq - Dreamweaver

fact is there are many good ways to get rep but nobody seems to do them. Lv 100bh 2 gives 66 rep. The public quest 2 gives good rep but is always deserted. As well as farming fb 59 an warsoul too....

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

clerics (especially) and barbs should have no issue with farming rep.. we're always asked to go on FB runs - and each tab gives rep. I bet the "FB ur drops" group has a plethora of rep (if they actually do get a bunch of fb requests). If you want to farm rep quick outside of FB runs, theres a thing called "one man army" quests that give 2 rep on each. Setup a zhen or grind squad on melee only mobs where everyone has the same one man army.. and knock a bunch of em out quick. sometimes you can stack justice envoys (for a cost) on the same type mob. Those are hourly quests and pay out 1 rep + exp/spirit.

i bet in the "old" days before speed leveling, players had more rep sooner from doing more one man armies to grind on, more fb runs to help their fellow players, etc.

Cybetron - Harshlands

Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

after reading that the weapon has the "zerk" option on it, I'd personally prefer to go with the Warsoul instead. I agree that the ring is quite nice. Would be awesome to equip two of themb:victory

as for cost of the Warsoul, we can look at the PWI ultimate weapon guide to see the following sure fire, though not only, method:


To put in terms of game coins only (not US dollarsb:surrender):
3,153 chips
assuming one never opens their stash box to receive a total of 40 chips...
chips available in stacks of 10 by trading in 9 tokens:

3,153 / 10 = 315.3 (thus 316 chip boxes)
316 * 9 * 12,000 = 34,128,000

green figures above are coin needed to trade chips for warsoul mats so figuring those in we come to...
101,628,000 coins, give or take a few million depending on token rates at any given time (assuming my calculator aint broke). So umm, yeah. If gold is going at a 400k average thats gonna be $254 USD, give or take a few dollars depending on gold rates. IIRC thats about 50 bucks more than a legendary veno pet. As to how much the Rank 9 weapon costs after even getting the badge in the first place.. I've no real idea the value on the items needed to obtain it.

That's only for the warsoul mold. The Warsoul weapon takes 99 of each mat. So to make a warsoul weapon you'll need 100 of each mat. So 254 x 100 = $25,400 USD b:shocked

Blood_Panda - Raging Tide wrote: »

-10% channelling makes it worth the while. since magic class usually cast spell instead of normal wacking.

but 300k rep? unless they come up with rep dailys.. it will be hard to even reach 200k

Well endgame wizards have quite alot of channeling (with frost rings and cape and other stuff), or they are too OP to need it, that they wouldn't be wanting to spend so much to get a rank 9 for just -10% channeling.

There are some people out there who farmed the 200k rep by either farming wraith officer's badges (FB 59 or COA) or farmed alot of coin to get tokens to buy the badges.

Other than using coin or the badges, it's next to impossible to get to 200k rep just by doing FBs and any other quests. We might get to rank 6 or something but definitely not to rank 8 and no way in hell to rank 9.

darksinnz

Cybetron - Harshlands wrote: »

That's only for the warsoul mold. The Warsoul weapon takes 99 of each mat. So to make a warsoul weapon you'll need 100 of each mat. So 254 x 100 = $25,400 USD b:shocked



Well endgame wizards have quite alot of channeling (with frost rings and cape and other stuff), or they are too OP to need it, that they wouldn't be wanting to spend so much to get a rank 9 for just -10% channeling.

There are some people out there who farmed the 200k rep by either farming wraith officer's badges (FB 59 or COA) or farmed alot of coin to get tokens to buy the badges.

Other than using coin or the badges, it's next to impossible to get to 200k rep just by doing FBs and any other quests. We might get to rank 6 or something but definitely not to rank 8 and no way in hell to rank 9.

Aka Example

one Fragment costs 788 chips ... x 100 (how u need) = 78800 Chips / by 10 (chips per box) = 7880 Boxes x 9 (tokens per box) =70920

So it Breaks to this

(Frags) (Boxes)
788x100 = 78800/10 = 7880 x 9 = 70920
788x100 = 78800/10 = 7880 x 9 = 70920
315x100 = 31500/10 = 3150 x 9 = 28350
158x100 = 15800/10 = 1580 x 9 = 14220

---

> 283,770 (Tokens Needed)
158x100 = 15800/10 = 1580 x 9 = 14220
473x100 = 47300/10 = 4730 x 9 = 42570
473x100 = 47300/10 = 4730 x 9 = 42570

283,770 (Tokens Needed)
x 10,000 (Price per Token)
2,837,700,000 (Coin Needed)
/ 400,000 (Price per gold)

TOTAL US DOLLAR--- $7094.25$ (Grats on Warsoul)

Nah that total dont come out right either .... Based on if the Gold is 400,000 and tokens are 10k each.... the $$ amount shoul come to 7094.25 so roughly $8,000 US

Roin - Harshlands

Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

clerics (especially) and barbs should have no issue with farming rep.. we're always asked to go on FB runs - and each tab gives rep. I bet the "FB ur drops" group has a plethora of rep (if they actually do get a bunch of fb requests). If you want to farm rep quick outside of FB runs, theres a thing called "one man army" quests that give 2 rep on each. Setup a zhen or grind squad on melee only mobs where everyone has the same one man army.. and knock a bunch of em out quick. sometimes you can stack justice envoys (for a cost) on the same type mob. Those are hourly quests and pay out 1 rep + exp/spirit.

i bet in the "old" days before speed leveling, players had more rep sooner from doing more one man armies to grind on, more fb runs to help their fellow players, etc.

Yeah i made over 9000 rep from fb's b4 i made lvl 90 back b4 packs came out and made it easy to get rep lol

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

darksinnz wrote: »

Nah that total dont come out right either .... Based on if the Gold is 400,000 and tokens are 10k each.... the $$ amount shoul come to 7094.25 so roughly $8,000 US

yeah if warsoul needs 100 of each mat, thats a more correct answer given the market prices of gold/tokens used in the example. Its not as simple as taking my previous result and multiplying by 100, since the figure above includes "leftover" tokens which would stack up (exponentially?) spending 25k (if you could even afford it) would wind you up with 3 warsouls b:shocked.

Cybetron - Harshlands

@Baalbak and darksinnz There have been hundreds of threads with the warsoul calculations you can research a bit and you will see how much you'ld need.
But FYI here are the calculations.

darksinnz wrote: »

(Frags) (Boxes)
788x100 = 78800/10 = 7880 x 9 = 70920
788x100 = 78800/10 = 7880 x 9 = 70920
315x100 = 31500/10 = 3150 x 9 = 28350
158x100 = 15800/10 = 1580 x 9 = 14220

---

> 283,770 (Tokens Needed)
158x100 = 15800/10 = 1580 x 9 = 14220
473x100 = 47300/10 = 4730 x 9 = 42570
473x100 = 47300/10 = 4730 x 9 = 42570

283,770 (Tokens Needed)
x 10,000 (Price per Token)
2,837,700,000 (Coin Needed for tokens only)

I borrowed your calculations for the chips. You didn't add the coins used in the exchange of the chips for a warsoul so here's the correct version:


(Coins used to forge the fragments)

16,875,000 x 100 = 1,687,500,000 (Ksitigarbha)
16,875,000 x 100 = 1,687,500,000 (Vajra)
6,750,000 x 100 = 675,000,000 (Samantabhadra)
3,375,000 x 100 = 337,500,000 (Manjusri)
10,125,000 x 100 = 1,012,500,000 (Arkarsja)
10,125,000 x 100 = 1,012,500,000 (Jakari)
3,375,000 x 100 = 337,500,000 (Avalokites)

Total coin used in the exchange = 6,750,000,000

So,
9,587,700,000 / 400,000 (Price per gold)

TOTAL US DOLLAR--- $23969.25 USD (Grats on Warsoul)

That's 24k

If a warsoul costs 8k then every one on my friend's list would be running around with one. THIS is why the warsoul is termed as an impossible dream.

Before someone points out that we can exchange "Perfect Stone" for fragments, NO YOU CAN'T. Pw database is wrong when it says 100% success rate. Its less than 1%. I know cos I tried b:surrender

The calculations here are made by assuming that you start with zero coin. If you've a significant amount of coin (like a billion or so) then I can see the cost going down.

EDIT: Also, we assumed tokens sell for 10k a piece(?) and Gold is 400k coin...

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

and here i go rescending my previous postb:surrender
forgot about that part of needing to trade coins in as well as the chips b:cry

/ragequit

vikinggamer

Hmmm, virtual armor or a huge down payment on a house? Gee, I am going to have to think about that one.

Blood_Panda - Raging Tide

erm One Man Army means you need to kill the mob yourself to get the Rep

Healers just healing the AoE party wouldnt be getting any kill for the rep i think.

Rubix - Harshlands

Yes, barbs will be thinking about getting rank9. Knowing it costs $10,000 to get the rep+medals+Celestial Swords, I can see every 101+ barb having it,

Cybetron - Raging Tide

Not every lvl 101 barb can afford it of course.. But I know atleast two or three people from each server who'ld or who've (already) put that much in game.. And some of them are barbs.. Every barb with full set of +10 or +11 armors and weapons would come close to that investment.. Besides people are spending 20k on warsouls, 7k or so on rank8, so 10k won't make a big dent in their pockets.

Rank 9 just means that barbs have a reason to go for it.. unlike rank8

Olo_Eopia - Lost City

Cybetron - Raging Tide wrote: »

Not every lvl 101 barb can afford it of course.. But I know atleast two or three people from each server who'ld or who've (already) put that much in game.. And some of them are barbs.. Every barb with full set of +10 or +11 armors and weapons would come close to that investment.. Besides people are spending 20k on warsouls, 7k or so on rank8, so 10k won't make a big dent in their pockets.

Rank 9 just means that barbs have a reason to go for it.. unlike rank8

wow... your pricing is sooo wrong its funny.....
for one rank 9 costs more than warsoul by like x2 . so approximately 48k$ into game not 10k

Also, +10 armour is actually only like 240ish gold per if you tisha/tiekeng til +7/+8, so 240 x lets say 6 is not even close to 48k$ into game.

also rank 8 is about 600m only whcih is about 1.5k$

Cybetron - Raging Tide

Olo_Eopia - Lost City wrote: »

wow... your pricing is sooo wrong its funny.....
for one rank 9 costs more than warsoul by like x2 . so approximately 48k$ into game not 10k

Also, +10 armour is actually only like 240ish gold per if you tisha/tiekeng til +7/+8, so 240 x lets say 6 is not even close to 48k$ into game.

also rank 8 is about 600m only whcih is about 1.5k$

Well I have no clue as to how much a rank 9 would cost and was going with what Rubix had posted (I was merely replying to her). I was told that Rank8 was 6k USD but that was way back when tokens were expensive in HL and the refining of all armor and wep to +11 would "probably" take another 1k, and hence the figure 7k. Going by the current price of tokens, you are absolutely right, rank8 would probably cost 1.75k at max. Apologies for the 6k faux pas.

The only price I was sure of was the warsoul, which is around 25k.

DoomKaiser - Harshlands

thats alot of math about how much usd it will cost ot get the chips needed for the mats. Good job on that half but u are forgetting that u also need coins to back the other half. having the chips is nothing without the coin for the exchange. Of course u dont need to chip all the mats. SOme have cheaper ways to get

r8 is about 1.5 USD now

Bartack - Heavens Tear

DoomKaiser - Harshlands wrote: »

thats alot of math about how much usd it will cost ot get the chips needed for the mats. Good job on that half but u are forgetting that u also need coins to back the other half. having the chips is nothing without the coin for the exchange. Of course u dont need to chip all the mats. SOme have cheaper ways to get

r8 is about 1.5 USD now

A buck-fiddy!?!?! In that case ill be the first rank 8 barb! WOOOT!!! b:laugh

DoomKaiser - Harshlands

^^ that kinda mentality is why ur race is almost extinct

Bartack - Heavens Tear

That's some big talk from someone who named himself after a deadly dinner roll...nomnomnom

Cybetron - Raging Tide

I lol'ed IRL.. b:laugh

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Getting the 300k rep is like less than 5% of the total cost of rank 9.

GS tokens are 10k chips each, and you need tons of them for each peice of gear.


So no, I doubt we'll see rank 9 anything anytime soon.

Rubix - Harshlands

Each piece takes 32 Swords, each sword taking 9999 Chips, meaning, $1,000. The full cost of R-9, is more than ANYBODY has spent in this game, the cheapest you are going to get the full set for, is going to be around $60,000, not including refines(that is for the armour ONLY, 300k rep is quite costly also).

danzings

umm you guys do know r8 is about $75 and r9 is like $1.5k-$2k now o.o so yea warsoul sux go for r9
ish way cheaper

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

danzings wrote: »

umm you guys do know r8 is about $75 and r9 is like $1.5k-$2k now o.o so yea warsoul sux go for r9
ish way cheaper

Good correction on a 10 month necro. kill thread pls?

BloodTyrant - Raging Tide

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Good correction on a 10 month necro. kill thread pls?

lol i can lend you my gun sakubatou xDD

fuzzywuzz

Fuzzy not need a gun....


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