Things to Clarify about the Wiz

GabiBaby - Heavens Tear
GabiBaby - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Wizard
Okay there are some things I want to clarify cause i keep getting mixed info when i read forums.

1. The wizard is soooooooooo expensive ..i mean like omg..they are as expensive as the cleric.

* What?!?! no they aren't/ Yep, they are my friend they really are

2. Dude its best you NOT pick a wizard cause..like.. they are never wanted in squads..i mean wtf.

* LOL ur crazy, wizards r nukers they make things so faster/ Yeahhhhhhhh ikr....they are slow as hell...

3. Damn im really confused...everybody talks about pvp when they mention wizards..what about pve?!?!?!

* The wizard is a PVP class moron / wizards can be pvp and are great! for TW but they are also good for pve too :)

4. So i know I have to walk through hell then make a roundabout and walk through hell again until i can get 2 heaven with the wiz..but how long does it last really last.


* shucks about like..lvl70/ lmao till ur lvl90..b:chuckle

KK Im done :)
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Okay there are some things I want to clarify cause i keep getting mixed info when i read forums.

    1. The wizard is soooooooooo expensive ..i mean like omg..they are as expensive as the cleric.

    * What?!?! no they aren't/ Yep, they are my friend they really are

    2. Dude its best you NOT pick a wizard cause..like.. they are never wanted in squads..i mean wtf.

    * LOL ur crazy, wizards r nukers they make things so faster/ Yeahhhhhhhh ikr....they are slow as hell...

    3. Damn im really confused...everybody talks about pvp when they mention wizards..what about pve?!?!?!

    * The wizard is a PVP class moron / wizards can be pvp and are great! for TW but they are also good for pve too :)

    4. So i know I have to walk through hell then make a roundabout and walk through hell again until i can get 2 heaven with the wiz..but how long does it last really last.


    * shucks about like..lvl70/ lmao till ur lvl90..b:chuckle

    KK Im done :)

    Just play. You will see by the time how wrong you are.
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  • GabiBaby - Heavens Tear
    GabiBaby - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Just play. You will see by the time how wrong you are.

    sorry, i guess i set up my post wrong, u were suppose to like answer or comment on the statements numbered 1,2,3,4 b:thanks silly me
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Okay there are some things I want to clarify cause i keep getting mixed info when i read forums.

    1. The wizard is soooooooooo expensive ..i mean like omg..they are as expensive as the cleric. All classes be "soooooooooo expensive"

    * What?!?! no they aren't/ Yep, they are my friend they really are

    2. Dude its best you NOT pick a wizard cause..like.. they are never wanted in squads..i mean wtf. If you be competent, you'll be wanted in squads (mayhaps not BH squads & possibly not TT (The whole DPH being rather moot when the DPS matters more against single target bosses but then again, gearing up well can let you do good DPS as well.) squads but frost & RB = good.

    * LOL ur crazy, wizards r nukers they make things so faster/ Yeahhhhhhhh ikr....they are slow as hell...

    3. Damn im really confused...everybody talks about pvp when they mention wizards..what about pve?!?!?! What about it? o.o' Me don't really consider PvE as part of the "game" it be more of a "story" to me since it be all pixels to me so...ya...

    * The wizard is a PVP class moron / wizards can be pvp and are great! for TW but they are also good for pve too :)

    4. So i know I have to walk through hell then make a roundabout and walk through hell again until i can get 2 heaven with the wiz..but how long does it last really last. eh? Me not sure what you be saying here.


    * shucks about like..lvl70/ lmao till ur lvl90..b:chuckle

    KK Im done :)
    sorry, i guess i set up my post wrong, u were suppose to like answer or comment on the statements numbered 1,2,3,4 b:thanks silly me

    aw...fine.
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  • //Hysteria\ - Sanctuary6
    //Hysteria\ - Sanctuary6 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    wizards arent hard in pve at all, any1 who says so is fail, a mob touches you once for the most part, whoopty doo, if not, u can kite with gush, ive never understood the ppl who say wiz is hard ive never had a prob lvling any of my wizzies and i solo basically ne thing cept instances, as i said, worse case scenario, kite with gush, at 39 u get knockback and then later u get FoW, if ur getting hit more than once, you suck, sorry to say.
    my post count always stays at 1 b:victory
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    wizards arent hard in pve at all, any1 who says so is fail, a mob touches you once for the most part, whoopty doo, if not, u can kite with gush, ive never understood the ppl who say wiz is hard ive never had a prob lvling any of my wizzies and i solo basically ne thing cept instances, as i said, worse case scenario, kite with gush, at 39 u get knockback and then later u get FoW, if ur getting hit more than once, you suck, sorry to say.

    Aw....that ranged mob hit me twice.
    T.T'
    Me must suck now.
    D:
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  • //Hysteria\ - Sanctuary6
    //Hysteria\ - Sanctuary6 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Aw....that ranged mob hit me twice.
    T.T'
    Me must suck now.
    D:

    lol well yeah ranged mobs get an extra hit sometimes cuz of that annoying **** where they get a shot off while dying but still not usually ne thing to worry bout unless ur not payin attn to ur hp for some reason =/
    my post count always stays at 1 b:victory
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    wizards arent hard in pve at all, any1 who says so is fail, a mob touches you once for the most part, whoopty doo, if not, u can kite with gush, ive never understood the ppl who say wiz is hard ive never had a prob lvling any of my wizzies and i solo basically ne thing cept instances, as i said, worse case scenario, kite with gush, at 39 u get knockback and then later u get FoW, if ur getting hit more than once, you suck, sorry to say.

    fight a mob in hell and then come back to meb:bye
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • //Hysteria\ - Sanctuary6
    //Hysteria\ - Sanctuary6 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    fight a mob in hell and then come back to meb:bye

    wasnt counting those lol, whole nother story yes, guess i could have clarified better ~_~
    my post count always stays at 1 b:victory
  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ad. 1
    Wizards are cheaper than clerics. You can choose few most favourite skills and max them first, keeping other for later levels, while cleric needs to level up more skills or he will be called fail. Wizard is also probably best class mana-wise in game, thanks to Glacial Embrace, Wellspring Quaff, Sutra and sparks.
    It gets a bit worse when you hit level 90 and you will want to start PvP. You will need gear (+refines) and lvl 11 skills, but it's similar for all classes.

    Ad.2
    I've been never refused in any squad only because I was a wizard. At lower and mid levels no one cares about your DPS. At higher levels wizards are sought for FC, GV and some TTs which require second healer. Also Frostblade buff seems to be useful for Assassins.

    Ad. 3
    Wizard, like BM, is a versatile class. Can be (obviously) damage dealer. Can tank magic bosses (all bosses in fb59 for example). Can be good secondary healer too, and Sutra + heal combo heals even better than cleric can.
    In solo grind, wizard can kill mob before it reaches him = very low repair costs. Big mana pool means no MP pots usage.

    Ad. 4
    Wizard gets noticeable boost at level 60, due to Essential Sutra skill and TT60 weapon (which is great for its level). Another boost around lvl 70 - used Sakyamuni's Light as new weapon which is one of the best mold weapons for its level. Using Stone Barrier started to make a difference, and maxed Sandstorm *hurts* enemies.
    At level 90 you get huge boost - you become either sage or demon and get your first lvl 11 skills (Pyrogram, Gush and Stone Rain are cheap and extremely useful). TT90 green set is excellent.
    I've read that at lvl 100 there is another boost, probably the biggest, but that I have yet to find out ;)
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  • Piliener - Lost City
    Piliener - Lost City Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    op should quit
    /thread
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ad. 4
    Wizard gets noticeable boost at level 60, due to Essential Sutra skill and TT60 weapon (which is great for its level). Another boost around lvl 70 - used Sakyamuni's Light as new weapon which is one of the best mold weapons for its level. Using Stone Barrier started to make a difference, and maxed Sandstorm *hurts* enemies.
    At level 90 you get huge boost - you become either sage or demon and get your first lvl 11 skills (Pyrogram, Gush and Stone Rain are cheap and extremely useful). TT90 green set is excellent.
    I've read that at lvl 100 there is another boost, probably the biggest, but that I have yet to find out ;)

    Sage BIDS.
    b:avoid
    fight a mob in hell and then come back to meb:bye

    Me tried, it didn't go too well.

    x.x'
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  • Abysm - Heavens Tear
    Abysm - Heavens Tear Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    what is this I don't even
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    op should quit
    /thread
    hey pili!
    wasnt counting those lol, whole nother story yes, guess i could have clarified better ~_~
    Sage BIDS.
    b:avoid



    Me tried, it didn't go too well.

    x.x'

    try heaven mobs, they are worst. Dont you just love range mobs with a lightning DoT that stacks and **** your charmb:bye
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    hey pili!




    try heaven mobs, they are worst. Dont you just love range mobs with a lightning DoT that stacks and **** your charmb:bye

    b:sad
    Do not want~!
    D:
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ****
    yay


    whats wrong with heaven or hell mobs?

    as long as its only 1 they are ok


    maxed control skills, 79 buff for magic pew pew and its a easy fun grinding time xd



    simply dont wear a charm grinding and use the full pool of hp, purify with 3spark vs dots
    :O



    unicorn and desert mobs are real hell, but still kiteable the same way >_> stress
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    yay


    whats wrong with heaven or hell mobs?

    as long as its only 1 they are ok


    maxed control skills, 79 buff for magic pew pew and its a easy fun grinding time xd



    simply dont wear a charm grinding and use the full pool of hp, purify with 3spark vs dots
    :O



    unicorn and desert mobs are real hell, but still kiteable the same way >_> stress
    Invisible / Stealth monsters in Heaven and Hell

    From my experience this issue is more prevalent in Heaven than Hell.

    Say for example, Headonistic Apostle in and around Heavenly Music Pavilion in Heaven.

    I could be approaching, in mid attack or leaving after killing the monster and suddenly other monsters appear out of thin air to attack me.

    This issue obviously isn't limited to when attacking monster but simply when moving around and farming materials and herbs.

    When I first turned Sage, it seemed to me that I died more times in those first few hours exploring Heaven than I did the whole of the time when I was L88. This was all due to this bug.

    Now i'm more cautious during the times I venture into Heaven and have myself prepared to run at a moments notice or to use a Dew of Star Protection to save myself from being battered to death by assailants which were previously invisible. Suffice to say from a players point of view, it should not be like this.

    I can't stress enough how disappointed I am that such a bug exists.

    Upon using the search function I have found a related thread:

    invisible mobs in heaven

    This tells me that this issue has existed at least since the date of the first post there (24th September 2009). I would not be surprised if it has existed a lot longer beforehand too.

    I would appreciate any feedback and / or updates about this issue.

    Regards.

    PS - Please forgive me if this has already been mentioned in this thread previously. Searches on this thread did not appear to bring up related posts.

    b:bye
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  • Tudordan - Dreamweaver
    Tudordan - Dreamweaver Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ^
    l
    l
    l

    this is the reason why I maked a sin b:shocked!
    I hate idiots,but I'm forced to stay near them!
  • KiiTte - Heavens Tear
    KiiTte - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    op should quit
    /thread

    why should i quit? o_o

    Guys im so sorry, i shouldnt have wrote the post like this, you really dont understand what its saying.. Its not me that said those stuff other people have said it and i just wanna clarify.

    This is my psy btw im still deciding between the two
  • Aquagirl - Raging Tide
    Aquagirl - Raging Tide Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    go ahead with the wiz, at least you'll have a chance to be good at something.

    regarding hell/heaven mobs, meh, all you need is a +10 lunar to 3 shot roflpwn them, lol.
    Last time I spent time in Heaven I wish I could have sold the mana I was regen via 3 spark.

    Unicorn and Desert mobs are made for veno grind. Go with brambled herc and smoke some weed while herc does the job.
    V o Scarred mobs are nice ... ranged magic/phys ones are actually making a lvl 11 BoA a joy to grind with.
  • Kitmen - Lost City
    Kitmen - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    wizard are just fun
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