Refining rates nerfed?

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Atreana - Lost City wrote: »

[FORUM]Atreana : Talk about being unlucky, 1000 mirages, 20 tishas, 17 tienkangs on different days at different times, closing and opening refining window with 3 consecutive fails, logging on and off and my heaven shatterer is still at +4. With mirages averaging 13k each that's 13m down the drains, not including the tishas and tienkangs.

It was much much easier to refine stuffs with tishas and tienkangs few months earlier, just not now. I'll bet you Warren if you did another test like the one you did months before, the results would be much much different now. I'm inclined to think they've nerfed everything that help players to save money.

I think exactly the same. Maybe they know, that end is coming soon so they want as much money as possible.

truekossy

OBOY - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:shockedactually its not cheaper the OP said he he spent 700 mirages and 37 tishua trying to get +3, with orbs selling at 75-100k he could of +4 maybe even +5 both gears and still had money leftb:victory

And we've already determined that the OP just had horrendously bad luck.

On average, it takes around 20ish mirages to get a single piece of armor to +3 without refining aids. Compare that to the cost of D-orbs and you'll already see a major difference.

The key word here, however, is average. Sometimes, it'll be more expensiveand you'll have bad luck. However, if you refine in bulk, you'll tend to save coin when not using orbs.

tl;dr version: Orbs are easier, aids are cheaper in most cases.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

i spent 11m to refine 6 gear parts from +4 to +5 few days ago with mirages and tienkangs

gold was 420k and (expensive) mirages for 13k

for one part i used like 400+ mirages while two other got +5 just after first try


when you look at those numbers you gotta admit that WarrenWolfy is pretty accurate



tho it s always good to refine few parts

Azura - Lost City

Bearleeable - Lost City wrote: »

Is anyone else having the issue the last few days that refining seems to be serverly nerfed?
I went through 700 mirages yesterday and couldn't get 2 pieces of grade 12 gear to +3
At once point it went 60 times w/o getting to +1 !! b:cry
Even with 37 tiusha stones best I got was +2 on one and +3 FINALLY on another.
I tried multiple methods and places.

Probably you are doing it wrong. Most of the rumors to which people laugh are true in fact. If you are failing so much you should stop and try later; Try to refine in places where there is few people, when you are alone is the best. If your faction owns lands you must use the officers for refine. Each officer has a bonus for certain refine (like a bonus for +4).

Edit: I would use tienkang for +3 to +5

LenieClarke - Heavens Tear

Azura - Lost City wrote: »

Probably you are doing it wrong. Most of the rumors to which people laugh are true in fact.

possibly you're right, but how do you know this? how did you go about gathering evidence for or against this proposal, and can we see that evidence?

denesis

Azura - Lost City wrote: »

Probably you are doing it wrong. Most of the rumors to which people laugh are true in fact. If you are failing so much you should stop and try later; Try to refine in places where there is few people, when you are alone is the best. If your faction owns lands you must use the officers for refine. Each officer has a bonus for certain refine (like a bonus for +4).

Edit: I would use tienkang for +3 to +5

LOL theres so many noobs out thereb:chuckleb:chuckle
After all WarrenWolfy did ur claiming this, gtfo noob...

hothakalasha

Just bad luck. Ive got my fc daggers +4 with first 8 mirages b:bye

TheDan - Sanctuary

Lol? I've been able to +6 and +7 from 0 in under 300 mirages with about 20 tienkang / 10 tisha.

But I use the land refinement Officers, though I don't know if it made a difference.. I've been able to +6 fairly easily.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

was able to +6 a gear yesterday with 300 mirages and exactly 10 of each tienkang and tisha.
Only thing i changed was after +4 i started using tisha. Instead of the pervious tienkang for +4-5.


and the reason i spent so much was cause greed got to me and i tried couple times for a +7

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary

denesis wrote: »

LOL theres so many noobs out thereb:chuckleb:chuckle
After all WarrenWolfy did ur claiming this, gtfo noob...

I actually sympathize with why people still believe in the rumours, and since there's no harm in following them (well, except for the ones that tell you to waste refine attempts on junk items in hopes of increasing your real refines) I don't make too much of an effort to argue with people who still believe in them.

I've never come right out and said exactly what I've done to 100% confirm why they are all false, and so from other people's perspective it's just my word vs. theirs. Since I'm the type of person who wants to see the proof, I wouldn't believe me either.

Basically, anybody who is a computer programmer and knows how to work Google could re-create the steps I took and see for themselves, but to post the information here violates forum rules, since it involves other versions of PW.