Which form to use at lower levels?

Lonedirewolf - Heavens Tear

Greetings,

as you can see, I'm a low leveled barbarian. However, I'm new to the game, but my faction is aiding me with new information I'm unfamiliar with.

I find the barbarian class quite amusing, but my hp charm's health recovery already depleted, and I'm finding myself loading up on pots. The pots are quite different to me since it increases the recovery rate.

Now to get to the real question now: Which form is better to use for fighting?

- I used tiger form ever since I attained it
- I found a build where it says to put 3 points into strength, and the rest into dexterity.
- I will be a pure tank at higher levels
- I solo


Thanks for any reply in my thread :-)

_Synergy_ - Heavens Tear

-At lower lvl the best form in my opinion is tiger (even tho i really didnt liked it that much, but now i do ), since tiger is cheaper than human form.

-Dont folo a build for barb if u going pure tank, look at the stats of the wep that u would be able to equip in the upcoming lvls and folo the requirments and put rest in vitality.

-This is how I managed my skills: Maxed them ASAP in order: True Form, Flesh Ream, buffs,
than passive, rest of the skills are kinda preferance.

Lonedirewolf - Heavens Tear

_Synergy_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

-At lower lvl the best form in my opinion is tiger (even tho i really didnt liked it that much, but now i do ), since tiger is cheaper than human form.

-Dont folo a build for barb if u going pure tank, look at the stats of the wep that u would be able to equip in the upcoming lvls and folo the requirments and put rest in vitality.

-This is how I managed my skills: Maxed them ASAP in order: True Form, Flesh Ream, buffs,
than passive, rest of the skills are kinda preferance.

This is quite useful ^_^

I do have a question to add on to that; What levels will each upgrade to True Form appear?

OMarvelous - Sanctuary

www.ecatomb.net


Great site, use it.

http://www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php For example there you can view the skills, and the differences for each level. Just select barb, true form, then level + to go up by one level. it gives you the skill costs and all relevant information.

You can even see the difference between Sage and Demon skills there.

_Synergy_ - Heavens Tear

OMarvelous - Sanctuary wrote: »

www.ecatomb.net


Great site, use it.

http://www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php For example there you can view the skills, and the differences for each level. Just select barb, true form, then level + to go up by one level. it gives you the skill costs and all relevant information.

You can even see the difference between Sage and Demon skills there.

You can do ^ or you in-game press "Alt+r" (only need to press r for me, for some ppl tho it dosent work ) and the skills that u have will appear and at the bottom right corner there will be an arrow besite "Skill Tree" click it and it will show u all the skills u can learn in future and when u will be able to learn them. b:victory

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Lonedirewolf - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Greetings,

as you can see, I'm a low leveled barbarian. However, I'm new to the game, but my faction is aiding me with new information I'm unfamiliar with.

I find the barbarian class quite amusing, but my hp charm's health recovery already depleted, and I'm finding myself loading up on pots. The pots are quite different to me since it increases the recovery rate.

Now to get to the real question now: Which form is better to use for fighting?

- I used tiger form ever since I attained it
- I found a build where it says to put 3 points into strength, and the rest into dexterity.
- I will be a pure tank at higher levels
- I solo


Thanks for any reply in my thread :-)

Whoa, your HP could be low for a barb, if you want to be a fist / claw barb, that is expensive o_o, hope you know that

Lonedirewolf - Heavens Tear

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Whoa, your HP could be low for a barb, if you want to be a fist / claw barb, that is expensive o_o, hope you know that

My health is around 1.3k buffed at the moment, but could it be bad that it may not be high enough? b:surprised

Is a pure tank also addressed as a fist/claw barb? Since you did mention it's expensive, I'll heed the warning.

Redmenace - Heavens Tear

inB4Yulk "tells us how it's done"

RedMenace

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Lonedirewolf - Heavens Tear wrote: »

My health is around 1.3k buffed at the moment, but could it be bad that it may not be high enough? b:surprised

Is a pure tank also addressed as a fist/claw barb? Since you did mention it's expensive, I'll heed the warning.

before level 20 doesn't matter what HP you have, but later on, can be a problem. Pure tank is really address as minimum amounts of dexterity and strength, rest into vitality.

Pure tank is not addressed as fist or claw, unless if you have a lot of real money to spend. Trust me, don't put too much into dexterity unless you want to spend money. up to 120 (total) dexterity is enough if your willing to sacrifice some HP for extra accuracy.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Rule 1 of being a barb: Disregard everything Yulk tells you.

WnbTank - Archosaur

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Rule 1 of being a barb: Disregard everything Yulk tells you.

I thought it was the first rule of PWI, regardless of class =/.

About dex, if you go tank, 60 after gear is enough. At least that`s what I got atm, I got 2x 50% accuracy rings though so I don`t miss too much and I don`t PK that much where I could use more accuracy. Yulk`s 120 is just plain idiotic, it`s totally too much or absolutely too little for claws, which is the only reason for that much dex.

I myself used humanoid for lower lvls, penetrate armor->mighty swing on cooldowns for stun. Don`t really know how tiger form works on lower lvls, but you still should lvl tiger form and flesh ream, at any given chance, also roar for that list, you will need em all.

Yulk - Heavens Tear

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

I thought it was the first rule of PWI, regardless of class =/.

About dex, if you go tank, 60 after gear is enough. At least that`s what I got atm, I got 2x 50% accuracy rings though so I don`t miss too much and I don`t PK that much where I could use more accuracy. Yulk`s 120 is just plain idiotic, it`s totally too much or absolutely too little for claws, which is the only reason for that much dex.

I myself used humanoid for lower lvls, penetrate armor->mighty swing on cooldowns for stun. Don`t really know how tiger form works on lower lvls, but you still should lvl tiger form and flesh ream, at any given chance, also roar for that list, you will need em all.

I meant total amount of DEX, not base DEX, base DEX is should not be more than 104 but even so, you don't need that much DEX because of gear. And not for claws either. Claws on a barb isn't good unless you have intervals and refined way up. Otherwise you should of rolled a BM.

Oh, I use tiger form on my barb btw, most of the time, but mainly to keep my DPS at maximum I always use tiger form for stronger p.def debuff and to stack on DOTs of flesh ream then garrote, and ofc mighty swing and stomp of the beast king. I just use every single skill in my hotkey bars xD.

Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Trust me, don't put too much into dexterity unless you want to spend money. up to 120 (total) dexterity is enough

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I meant total amount of DEX, not base DEX, base DEX is should not be more than 104 but even so, you don't need that much DEX because of gear. And not for claws either.

b:shocked

Fuzzy gotta say that is just terrible advice!

What would a barb be doing with 104 base dex? Dex only need to ever be in the 60-70 range and then get yourself a couple of Misty Forest or Frost Chaos rings. If u have a pair of either, accuracy isn't an issue hence, no need for 30-40 wasted points.

OMarvelous - Sanctuary

Looooooooooooooooool

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide wrote: »

b:shocked

Fuzzy gotta say that is just terrible advice!

What would a barb be doing with 104 base dex? Dex only need to ever be in the 60-70 range and then get yourself a couple of Misty Forest or Frost Chaos rings. If u have a pair of either, accuracy isn't an issue hence, no need for 30-40 wasted points.

Well, it looks like the OP was really going for accuracy, everyone can make a build and make it work, like wolfgore from heavenstear. I was thinking about fists on a barb too even though it was fail xD. But though it still is, he just cash shopped to do that.

But the OP was going a little too far with DEX.

But for my barb at endgame will have 27 base DEX b:chuckle

Lonedirewolf - Heavens Tear

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Well, it looks like the OP was really going for accuracy, everyone can make a build and make it work, like wolfgore from heavenstear. I was thinking about fists on a barb too even though it was fail xD. But though it still is, he just cash shopped to do that.

But the OP was going a little too far with DEX.

But for my barb at endgame will have 27 base DEX b:chuckle

Still getting quite puzzled on what's right and wrong. b:puzzled

Was I aiming for too much DEX? I'm already putting points into VIT now, but I can redo to include more VIT and less DEX if it's necessary to avoid messing up my stats for tanking in the future.

Cybetron - Harshlands

Don't get confused by all this high dex talk. You won't be needing any of these advices any time soon. The best thing to do is see the required stats of the next weapon you want to wear, then see how much you have and how many levels you need till you can equip the next weapon. Share the stats at each level to attain the required stats and put the rest into vit. Here's an easy example:

Lets say that you've 120 str and 40 dex (hypothetical). Now, your next good weapon is in another 5 levels and its requires stats are 130 str and 45 dex. So in 5 levels you will need 10 str and 5 dex. So if you put 2 str, 1 dex per level (caution: only for this example, not pertaining to the game) and dump the rest (2 excess points per level) in vit, you will have the most suitable build for a tank barb.

If the amount of dex you have equals the requirements of, say, an axe 10 levels higher than you, then just dump the required str and the rest into vit.

Follow the same till atleast 70 or so and then you will be high enough to change your gameplay, build and other stuff.

@Yulk You wont get anything by keeping your dex at 104. If accuracy is something that the barb is after then he'll wear rings and use BloodBath. If the barb needs claws then 104 dex would get him the ****tiest pair of claws.The lowest level of the "decent" claws - gorenox vanity - takes 168 dex. I am wondering how you came up with that number though. And also I am quite scared to ask you why are you aiming for 27 dex endgame. Will you be using all DEX gear? or will you be using only Calamitys?

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Cybetron - Harshlands wrote: »

And also I am quite scared to ask you why are you aiming for 27 dex endgame. Will you be using all DEX gear? or will you be using only Calamitys?

I can get other 33 DEX from gears when I restat my barb. He will have a lot of HP b:cute , although I have not experienced more DEX on a barb, but I seen some other barbs that were o.o, but not all

And to the OP, I believe pure VIT or STR on barbs are better off, I assume you have 33 DEX, no need for too much DEX. But that is up to you, I'm not telling you to go high DEX or pure VIT or whatever build (but you seem to want to go pure VIT because you said pure tanker)

Blood_Panda - Raging Tide

Lonedirewolf - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Still getting quite puzzled on what's right and wrong. b:puzzled

Was I aiming for too much DEX? I'm already putting points into VIT now, but I can redo to include more VIT and less DEX if it's necessary to avoid messing up my stats for tanking in the future.

Here is a sample Barb tank build below. try to play around with the calculator.. its 90% accurate.

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=95368409d75ec21e

standard barb tank build needs no more than
54 DEx @ level 100
Str no more than 252 @ level 100
Rest of the points to Vit

With that amount you can equip up to date Heavy Armors which means you can take hits effectively already.

Dont worry about barb missing.. We have a lot of 100% hit Skill which helps a lot.

Think for yourself, And do what you want. Its your game.

XylolyX - Heavens Tear

Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide wrote: »

b:shocked

Fuzzy gotta say that is just terrible advice!

What would a barb be doing with 104 base dex? Dex only need to ever be in the 60-70 range and then get yourself a couple of Misty Forest or Frost Chaos rings. If u have a pair of either, accuracy isn't an issue hence, no need for 30-40 wasted points.

Listen to Fuzzy, he knows what he is talking about.

My barb has 67 dex, aiming for 70 dex by lvl100. I rarely miss. Accuracy is a touch over 1300 with 2 misties.