CoA Etiquette
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So far our server hasn't had many issues of greed, it's usually an Amplify that is ever an issue where they take more than one and complain if you get one. Every other person has been fine. Only mention that faction, because three have shown that greedy attitude where they were actually not able to fully take two but wanted to.
Not surprising Borsuc posted here about 5 APS, also not surprised he showed himself to be one of those clueless arcanes I mentioned earlier. You won't beat 5 APS on a single target, but TDB isn't a solo target spell. If they can't figure out to get a few wizzies and a cleric and zhen 4+ bosses, then they are idiots and deserve to fail. They can easily earn similar orbs to a 5 APS soloing, if they can find the invite button and work together.
Also, KS MAY count on a boss that is already being attacked by someone and another wanders in to take it. But what usually happens, is someone is standing around waiting for the boss to appear and another comes in during the wait time. How can it be KS, when both people are standing around waiting for the same mob? And again, if someone can not deal much damage, stick with the worms and 1.5s; people who deal low damage going to SE corner is stupid.
SE corner is also best when killing 2 or more, this is also known by simple math. It is also the reason I will go to other areas that no one likes to get away from it from time to time, depending on who all is down there. I don't gripe about it, I just relook at the map I made and figure out the next best place to go.
And the large majority of lures are for taking someone's mob. When someone leaves their boss to drag it over, or people wander in and take a boss from someone their dragged boss killed, that is the usual way it happens.
Bottom line: CoA rewards the most knowledgeable and organized people. Isn't that what a competition event is supposed to do, this isn't meant to be an 'everyone gets a medal' kind of event.Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura
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How come you wouldn't bring this up with an officer but would post this on a public forum? None of us know what you're talking about, when Daiz whispered to me about it he didn't give me names either, so what do you want us to do? So, apparently all of Amp, including me, are greedy KSers because three people are.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
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Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »^
How come you wouldn't bring this up with an officer but would post this on a public forum? None of us know what you're talking about, when Daiz whispered to me about it he didn't give me names either, so what do you want us to do? So, apparently all of Amp, including me, are greedy KSers because three people are.
Except I flat out stated it was three from there, so it does not mean all. Even you were able to get that much out of my post.
What it did though, was make it so that if Amp members keep doing it, then people who have read the forum post will make it so that Amp does get that rep though. Which if they keep doing it, then the faction would have earned that reputation. Sets a precedence, and allows the faction to burn their rep or become better, it's up to them.Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura
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No cut the ****, when you name a faction, people are just going to think it's that faction. It doesn't matter if you say 3 of a faction did it or that faction did it. It's like when Saru mentioned a REGI member saying something nasty to her on the forums and Dan got defensive, or when some people just generally hate Nef, LG, or Regi because a few members from there did something mean at one time.What it did though, was make it so that if Amp members keep doing it, then people who have read the forum post will make it so that Amp does get that rep though. Which if they keep doing it, then the faction would have earned that reputation. Sets a precedence, and allows the faction to burn their rep or become better, it's up to them.
Who would "they" be? The ones that KSed? How would we make sure "they" don't keep doing it if we don't know who "they" are? How does not giving names give the faction this option to become better at all? It doesn't, basically you're saying that the rep of a faction is now falling on these three people because you chose to mention the faction name but not give the officers names of the players involved, in which case I would be correct in saying you're trying to make all of us out into KSers. PM me names or I'm just going to assume you're spouting lies.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
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Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »^
No cut the ****
Guys/Gals please take the faction drama to pms or ingame.
Heres an interesting question...
Is CoA designed to be the way it is now...?
Or is it the players who decided it should be this way now?
Yes both are different, although could lead to the same answer.0 -
Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »Except I flat out stated it was three from there, so it does not mean all. Even you were able to get that much out of my post.
What it did though, was make it so that if Amp members keep doing it, then people who have read the forum post will make it so that Amp does get that rep though. Which if they keep doing it, then the faction would have earned that reputation. Sets a precedence, and allows the faction to burn their rep or become better, it's up to them.
I remember seeing you in CoA Mat Stealing from people who kill bosses and left it to kill another to help the City win. Is that good etiquette as well? I was pretty sure it was you, Deathritis and another BM was helping the city win when you followed and waited for the orbs to lose its timer and then you picked up.0 -
technically its whichever instance collects the most orbs wins, which yea i guess amounts to overall DD. so what do you expect people to do? not attack an extra mob when theyre fully capable so that you can take 20 mins to kill it (when they coulda dropped it in 3)? that screws over everybody in the instance overall.
there is a lot of **** that goes on in CoA that makes me nerdrage all over my desk. people who attacked/aggrod the wrong thing and run away from it until it gets stuck on somebody else. people who ks, people who yell at you if you come 50 feet within visible range of "their mob". i think, if they can handle it, 2 mobs is completely fair for any 1 person to "consume". more than that is excessive and greedy, in my opinion. and so is a group of 6 ppl rounding up half the map to zhen. that's greedy and obnoxious too.
either way, its all just a part of that event. things you should know going in, and things you pretty much agree to put up with should you decide to participate in the event. do you come on the forum to QQ about [insert accurate guild name here] dominating DT every week (digging all the chests before anybody else has a chance)? how about the nien event (with the top DDs squadding their own noobs to get 2x, sometimes 3x the prizes)?
yea, a lot of the events int his game are broken. and yea, it's gotten to the point now that only the top 1 percent can get anything accomplished, but that's not exactly their fault. it's the game's fault. and moaning and groaning to the people who, by whatever means, managed to get into that top 1 percent.. all that does is show how jealous you are that you can't do the same. and you've got every right to be jealous, so don't fret too much.
also -- 3 from amp, compared to.. how many from other guilds? seriously, get some perspective. i see you're only lvl 77, so probably just someone who grew up in the BH era, therefore you probably don't even know the history of greed on this server. if amp gets a "bad rep" from 3 people being stingy in 1 event, it'll only be AFTER various other guilds get bad reputations for year long scumbaggery all across the board.0 -
Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »Not surprising Borsuc posted here about 5 APS, also not surprised he showed himself to be one of those clueless arcanes I mentioned earlier. You won't beat 5 APS on a single target, but TDB isn't a solo target spell. If they can't figure out to get a few wizzies and a cleric and zhen 4+ bosses, then they are idiots and deserve to fail. They can easily earn similar orbs to a 5 APS soloing, if they can find the invite button and work together.
DB = no chi and no triple sparking. -channeling = worthless. What else is there? b:chuckle
Why would you need "a few wizzies" when you could get "a few 5aps people" and kill 2 times as fast?
You may need 6-8 bosses to have equivalent of one 5aps. And veno amp is single target as well. What else is single target? Extreme Poison? hmm...
But BMs always seem to know so much about wizards I guess. Even if you could AOE 4 Nien Beasts in the event, DB won't get you close to that of 5aps. b:bye0 -
Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »You may need 6-8 bosses to have equivalent of one 5aps. And veno amp is single target as well. What else is single target? Extreme Poison? hmm...
You need about 11 mobs for DB to equal the dps of 5aps. Veno amp and extreme poison doesnt work in CoA. Tangling mire and undine strike are useless as well since mobs have 0 resistance.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Maybe your server has better geared people so difference between DB and 5aps is higher then b:surrender
And I had no idea amps don't work -- yes I did know "debuffs" don't work, because they have 0 resistance (or immunity). Thanks for the info, should help a few others I know too.0 -
Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »Maybe your server has better geared people so difference between DB and 5aps is higher then b:surrender
And I had no idea amps don't work -- yes I did know "debuffs" don't work, because they have 0 resistance (or immunity). Thanks for the info, should help a few others I know too.
Well I was assuming +10ish weapons.. 5aps benefits alot more from weapon than DB since DB has no +WeaponAttack% modifier. 5aps attacks 15 times more frequently than DB.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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MagicChu - Sanctuary wrote: »I remember seeing you in CoA Mat Stealing from people who kill bosses and left it to kill another to help the City win. Is that good etiquette as well? I was pretty sure it was you, Deathritis and another BM was helping the city win when you followed and waited for the orbs to lose its timer and then you picked up.
There is assisting, and there is taking mats from someone. Only time I have picked up mats from a boss I did not get the drops for, was one time when we had around 4 people killing bosses. Frostkiller and I were a few away from 400 for CoA ring, when Deathiris PMed asking if I needed a few as they had enough for CoA ring already. Said I needed around 40, and they told me to grab a few of their drops to get 400. Frostkiller had already got their 400, and we were talking about it at the same time.
So I grabbed around 30 orbs or so to get 400, then we all just ran around killing the bosses we had already been working on. I don't think it's possible to steal orbs when the people on the boss offer it to you, and we left plenty on the ground as we just went wholesale slaughter the last few minutes to boost our instance. How else do you think I already knew there were orbs laying on the ground, when Frost boss isn't even on the radar let alone sight. Dunno if you were the 4th guy there, or just some random person, but Deathiris, Frostkiller, and I were already aware that they offered the orbs to me. And we usually help eachother kill bosses when waiting for our own to spawn. Have not ever had a problem with them, so no idea where the idea I stole some orbs came from.
Other than that one time, I've only taken ones that dropped from a boss I got the kill for, so I have a clear conscience. So I have no reason to care about any claims of improper conduct for me.
EDIT: Ok, with the forum update, how the heck do we send PMs now to players on the forum?
Further Edit because it is just too ironic:Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »technically its whichever instance collects the most orbs wins, which yea i guess amounts to overall DD. so what do you expect people to do? not attack an extra mob when theyre fully capable so that you can take 20 mins to kill it (when they coulda dropped it in 3)? that screws over everybody in the instance overall.
there is a lot of **** that goes on in CoA that makes me nerdrage all over my desk. people who attacked/aggrod the wrong thing and run away from it until it gets stuck on somebody else. people who ks, people who yell at you if you come 50 feet within visible range of "their mob". i think, if they can handle it, 2 mobs is completely fair for any 1 person to "consume". more than that is excessive and greedy, in my opinion. and so is a group of 6 ppl rounding up half the map to zhen. that's greedy and obnoxious too.
either way, its all just a part of that event. things you should know going in, and things you pretty much agree to put up with should you decide to participate in the event. do you come on the forum to QQ about [insert accurate guild name here] dominating DT every week (digging all the chests before anybody else has a chance)? how about the nien event (with the top DDs squadding their own noobs to get 2x, sometimes 3x the prizes)?
yea, a lot of the events int his game are broken. and yea, it's gotten to the point now that only the top 1 percent can get anything accomplished, but that's not exactly their fault. it's the game's fault. and moaning and groaning to the people who, by whatever means, managed to get into that top 1 percent.. all that does is show how jealous you are that you can't do the same. and you've got every right to be jealous, so don't fret too much.
also -- 3 from amp, compared to.. how many from other guilds? seriously, get some perspective. i see you're only lvl 77, so probably just someone who grew up in the BH era, therefore you probably don't even know the history of greed on this server. if amp gets a "bad rep" from 3 people being stingy in 1 event, it'll only be AFTER various other guilds get bad reputations for year long scumbaggery all across the board.
Yeah, the funny thing is, out of all the bad actions in CoA, I screenshotted your hissy fit after doing the snake boss lure and dropping it on my lvl 100 blademaster who has been around since Nov 08. You went on and on about how if no one cares about you, you won't care about griefing other people. And somehow, that excused you doing it to people who never did anything against you. Which makes the many ironies or wrong info in your post just too entertaining. BTW, my forum avatar has been broken for almost a year now. Though I heard if the people in a screenshot agree to allow it to be posted, it can be. So can I have your permission to post it?Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura
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Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »EDIT: Ok, with the forum update, how the heck do we send PMs now to players on the forum?
Top of page, find where it says "Private Messages" in blue and click on that. Then click on "Send New Message", also in blue.0 -
I doubt it is. I was once and figured out theres no point for me to come again. Im working on mob then two guys coming and tells me politely that they will outdamage me so I can just go away. I think its ok since this is an competition so simply stronger wins.
On the other hand its marketing, you know that all this events are made to make you pay cash to become stroneger then compete. It's a life. xD0 -
If you had a prob, you shoulda just PMed an officer Telarith. Seeing all the posts on the forums i thought you were one of the smarter pple than those that QQ and just point fingers at factions without taking time to tell the higher ups about them =O You should know that without outside info even a faction cannot fix things they cant keep track of 24/7 unless u have some kind of other ulterior motive set on a targeted faction. Theres alot of things about destiny officer that ive seen pretty corrupt but havnt blurted on the forums cause THEY dont actually represent the WHOLE faction.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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oh yea i know exactly what youre talking about. some moron lured a buncha mobs to me, forcing me to run from the mobs just like they were. and guess what *gasp* i havent gone to CoA since. but you dont see me QQing on the forum about it. i just ranted in game while it was happening. see, i actually learned something from that experience: i dont like CoA.
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Actually, the post started started as saying Sanc did not have the problems, until as I was typing I remembered the one exception. So I could have either kept on and ended up lieing, or put in the exception. It's only dragging on, because of so many who keep trying to turn it around. Can try to qualify it to exacts, but for the most part people simplify things. And for me the simplification is if I see a certain tag, watch for boss lures and swipes. Doesn't mean everywhere on game, and doesn't mean all the faction. But I do look out more on a certain tag than others.
Swipes mostly happened to me a while ago, which would make it rather late for a QQ. It really isn't that easy to take a boss from me at the moment. If someone takes it, I move. If they can't take it, I don't. It's basically happening to other people in the same area, and again perpetuates the bad connotation. Already been in contact with Quilue, since they seemed to want the info.
It doesn't matter if it's a big deal or not. You don't have to care to get a bad image on something. To draw a correlation, if I wander by a World Boss a couple times, and see a group that keeps kill stealing from others, then eventually it will be an image that sticks. Doesn't matter if it bothers me or not, it is still there. So if I talk about it in the future, it will come out as a background piece of info. It will not be complaining, it just will be. I clarified, and then I gave the info needed by Quilue when they insinuated I was lieing. Not sure what purpose trying to make it seem like I'm crying does, but it really doesn't work. Might want to discuss with your officers, as it seemed like Quilue was trying to keep it to PMs. And all this extra kind of undoes it.Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura
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Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »Actually, the post started started as saying Sanc did not have the problems, until as I was typing I remembered the one exception. So I could have either kept on and ended up lieing, or put in the exception. It's only dragging on, because of so many who keep trying to turn it around. Can try to qualify it to exacts, but for the most part people simplify things. And for me the simplification is if I see a certain tag, watch for boss lures and swipes. Doesn't mean everywhere on game, and doesn't mean all the faction. But I do look out more on a certain tag than others.
Swipes mostly happened to me a while ago, which would make it rather late for a QQ. It really isn't that easy to take a boss from me at the moment. If someone takes it, I move. If they can't take it, I don't. It's basically happening to other people in the same area, and again perpetuates the bad connotation. Already been in contact with Quilue, since they seemed to want the info.
It doesn't matter if it's a big deal or not. You don't have to care to get a bad image on something. To draw a correlation, if I wander by a World Boss a couple times, and see a group that keeps kill stealing from others, then eventually it will be an image that sticks. Doesn't matter if it bothers me or not, it is still there. So if I talk about it in the future, it will come out as a background piece of info. It will not be complaining, it just will be. I clarified, and then I gave the info needed by Quilue when they insinuated I was lieing. Not sure what purpose trying to make it seem like I'm crying does, but it really doesn't work. Might want to discuss with your officers, as it seemed like Quilue was trying to keep it to PMs. And all this extra kind of undoes it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'd like to get an idea of what the general consensus is for CoA etiquette. I would also like to get an official stance from a GM.
So you pay 100k to go to CoA and try to make some coinage right? Once you are in and squads are made or unmade, is it ok to "steal" mobs from other players by out damaging them? Or could this be considered griefing? If it is ok to take mobs, then is it also ok to pull mobs to that squad to tick their charms, slow them down? Or is this greifing?
I am asking because the issue came up. It's a tough one. The instance is designed for the best DPS. But that then leaves out the lower damage players.
So have at it! Let me hear what you all think!
Sorry about the late response on this one---
I'd have to say that once you're in the CoA, anything goes in terms of mob attacking and squad tactics. "Kill-stealing" is not a violation in PWI, and I could see pulling mobs to another squad as a legitimate battle tactic. It's a competition in there, so you need to do what you can reach the top.0 -
Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »You're kidding right?
DB = no chi and no triple sparking. -channeling = worthless. What else is there? b:chuckle
Why would you need "a few wizzies" when you could get "a few 5aps people" and kill 2 times as fast?
Why would you even DB? Isn't a mage's highest dps attack combo gusy/pyro/devine?But BMs always seem to know so much about wizards I guess. Even if you could AOE 4 Nien Beasts in the event, DB won't get you close to that of 5aps. b:bye
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So I've never been to CoA yet and have some simple questions.
Would be awesome if someone could answer them.
1) I ve been told so often that CoA is a lvl 100+ Dungon ... now I read somewhere that its a lvl 50+ one?
2) Do you need a Squad to enter CoA?
3) Where is the entrance to CoA? The Blue cave underneath Havens Tear ?
Ty in advance !I am:
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$exyAlexis - Dreamweaver wrote: »So I've never been to CoA yet and have some simple questions.
Would be awesome if someone could answer them.
1) I ve been told so often that CoA is a lvl 100+ Dungon ... now I read somewhere that its a lvl 50+ one?
2) Do you need a Squad to enter CoA?
3) Where is the entrance to CoA? The Blue cave underneath Havens Tear ?
Ty in advance !
1) 50+ and requires one of your daily badges gained from adventurer's assistant or the big puppy.
2) No, and you are sent randomly. So while you can squad early for buffs, you will need to form a new squad in all likelihood when you get to your particular instance. Where everyone ends up is random.
3) At the adventurer's assistant or the big puppy. It tells you the time when you talk to them; opens at 20:50, 10 mins to wander to position, then an hour of killing.Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura
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Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »1) 50+ and requires one of your daily badges gained from adventurer's assistant or the big puppy.
2) No, and you are sent randomly. So while you can squad early for buffs, you will need to form a new squad in all likelihood when you get to your particular instance. Where everyone ends up is random.
3) At the adventurer's assistant or the big puppy. It tells you the time when you talk to them; opens at 20:50, 10 mins to wander to position, then an hour of killing.
Thanky you very much this helps alot !b:thanksI am:
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I believe that in City of Abominations no person can claim any mob to themselves, but if people respect each other than they will relocate away from one another. If there is a squad there doing the event, then the squad will most likely want to kill as many mobs during that 1 hour so they will take them from each other so that they can maximize their rewards. If everyone is nice to each other in this event though then the rewards will be dropped dramatically. I also believe that if a player doesn't find a squad that they should just leave the instance if they know that they can't kill anything because CoA should mostly be with squads....
Ideas to make CoA funner:
- Have squads teleport into the same instance, such as dragon, phoenix, turtle...etc. but make the instance random.
- Spawn more mobs and make the instance larger because of the higher amount of end-game players entering this instance and having to fight over mobs.
- Instead of having to take the astral orbs off the ground give contribution for damage to players to make it faster for teams and more rewarding for people. This way the true DPS squads/players will gain more contribution.[SIGPIC]http://a.imageshack.us/img714/9433/testoz.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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Well the thing with picking up orbs is so that a squad can have one person pick it all up in order to get a ring. If you do it by contribution then the squad cannot pool orbs. I think if orbs were trade-able, it would make getting along a lot easier as you would be able to pool orbs from other squads and get a ring together that the squads couldn't have gotten otherwise.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »Its not the city that shares the best that wins, its the city that deals the most damage. The optimal strategy for an entire city would have everyone DDing as constantly as possible without anyone standing around waiting for mobs to respawn. To keep up a constant DD would require attacking at least 2 different mobs so erecting boundaries by reserving mobs for discrete groups including the lowest DD is pretty inefficient.Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »oh yea i know exactly what youre talking about. some moron lured a buncha mobs to me, forcing me to run from the mobs just like they were. and guess what *gasp* i havent gone to CoA since. but you dont see me QQing on the forum about it. i just ranted in game while it was happening. see, i actually learned something from that experience: i dont like CoA.
The advice I would offer is: Don't be discouraged by a few bad apples. Despite the competitive nature of CoA, most of the people I've met in there have been friendly, cooperative, and willing to group. They may boot you if you turn out to be incompetent or unproductive, but at least they've given you a chance.
(I should also point out that aside from the boss(es?) in the center, the AOE damage from mobs isn't that bad. The rewards for the orbs are so valuable that you should think nothing about blowing through a ton of potions during the event. What's 20-100k in pots when you can make 1-4 mil worth in orbs in an hour? If you're being driven off by people dragging AOE mobs onto you, you're worrying too much about minimizing your costs instead of maximizing net return.)0 -
frankieraye wrote: »Sorry about the late response on this one---
I'd have to say that once you're in the CoA, anything goes in terms of mob attacking and squad tactics. "Kill-stealing" is not a violation in PWI, and I could see pulling mobs to another squad as a legitimate battle tactic. It's a competition in there, so you need to do what you can reach the top.
Thank you frankie for the reply. b:cute b:thanks0 -
Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »That's only straightforward if everyone is attacking one mob at a time. I haven't done extensive calculations for AOE damage, but in general it seems that AOE yields higher DPS when you're attacking 3+ mobs. So how the mobs are shared between groups can significantly affect a city's overall DPS rate. Optimally, the bigger AOE groups will be taking all the nearby mobs they can lure while still exceeding the DPS rate of a nearby group which doesn't suffer as much zero-DPS time penalty from having to drag the mob as far. (5 APS may break this, as it breaks so many other things, but not everyone can do 5 APS).ou're worrying too much about minimizing your costs instead of maximizing net return.)
The breakeven point between barrage / DB and a 5aps user is more like 8 or 9 mobs. In my server the majority of the damage in CoA comes from 5aps players. Often 2-3 people hold the majority of a city's orbs. Fortunately pretty much all 5aps players are saturated by at most 2 mobs. I havent heard of anyone killing so fast as to need 3 mobs.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Frankie, while we have you in this thread, is there a hard cap on the amount of orbs that can be picked up in any one instance? Last week on Harshlands CoA ended 9 minutes early and the week before it ended three minutes early. Both weeks we had about the same amount of orbs throughout the instance so we were wondering about the cap.0
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Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »1) 50+ and requires one of your daily badges gained from adventurer's assistant or the big puppy.
2) No, and you are sent randomly. So while you can squad early for buffs, you will need to form a new squad in all likelihood when you get to your particular instance. Where everyone ends up is random.
3) At the adventurer's assistant or the big puppy. It tells you the time when you talk to them; opens at 20:50, 10 mins to wander to position, then an hour of killing.0
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