An idea to look for squad/members for FBs + BHs

wowgirlgirl

I'm not sure if anyone had this idea before or if anyone noticed.

There's a chat room called FBurdrops hosted by high level players who are willing to help with your FBs and you keep drops.

In the same way, we can create chat rooms for the BH we need so anyone else who need the same BH can join the chat room and form a squad there. This way we don't need to stand near the Head Hunter and spam normal chat looking for squad or members. We can then go quest, farm, grind, AH, catshop ................ etc

Let's make this work b:victory

wowgirlgirl

actually, let's use this method for TT + FC + RB + boss + anything else that needs a squad

b:victoryb:victoryb:victory

Okeano - Harshlands

30 ppl limitation on chat rooms FTL. It's not like FBurDROPS haven't been spammed with BH requests already.

Shadowfire - Dreamweaver

There's simply too much demand for bhs also. You're better off using a tele to look for the group you need. Or, at least, specify which TT/BH/etc you're looking for to help with confusion, given the 30 person limit. A room for BH100 being asked for bh39 help wouldn't benefit anyone, just as asking for tt3-1 in a room meant mainly for tt 1-3 wouldn't.

It's possible, but would need some method implemented to help people know which bh/tt room they really wanted. TT70/TT80/TT90/TT99 would help, for example, by letting people know what level of mat the room was for.

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

Shadowfire - Dreamweaver wrote: »

There's simply too much demand for bhs also. You're better off using a tele to look for the group you need. Or, at least, specify which TT/BH/etc you're looking for to help with confusion, given the 30 person limit. A room for BH100 being asked for bh39 help wouldn't benefit anyone, just as asking for tt3-1 in a room meant mainly for tt 1-3 wouldn't.

It's possible, but would need some method implemented to help people know which bh/tt room they really wanted. TT70/TT80/TT90/TT99 would help, for example, by letting people know what level of mat the room was for.

Teles are good of course, but they cost coins and you may need quite a few teles to get a full squad. Add that on top of wine fees, BHs are not cheap.

The more specific the chat rooms are, the easier and quicker it is to get a full squad. Eg. bhDeception, bhDelirium, TTthreeone, RBgamma (I don't think numbers work in chat room names?)

If someone gets into a BH100 chat room asking for help for BH29, he would just be simply ignored. And if he gets really annoying, he can be kicked out by the chat room creator I believe ? And there's always "Blacklist" b:chuckle

Chillum - Dreamweaver

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Teles are good of course, but they cost coins and you may need quite a few teles to get a full squad. Add that on top of wine fees, BHs are not cheap.

The more specific the chat rooms are, the easier and quicker it is to get a full squad. Eg. bhDeception, bhDelirium, TTthreeone, RBgamma (I don't think numbers work in chat room names?)

If someone gets into a BH100 chat room asking for help for BH29, he would just be simply ignored. And if he gets really annoying, he can be kicked out by the chat room creator I believe ? And there's always "Blacklist" b:chuckle

Unfortunately it doesn't really work. People have tried before.

FBurDrops works because those who are willing to help invariably are able to help on a variety of FB runs. Everyone will be able to gain EXP, Spirit and reputation for those who take part who are of the requisite level.

If there were a BH (or indeed T-T) room here are a few things which spring to mind:

- Room creator is seeking a BH 69 and creates the room seeking a squad.
- Various people come into the room seeking a variety of BHs from 29 up to Warsong / T-T so no guarantee you would find people seeking the same BH in the room.
- Due to room limit, only 30 people at most in the room as someone previously stated.
- Room creator eventually gets BH done and may feel they no longer need to host the room. Someone else would need to do so and thus room turnover maybe high. Not everyone may notice and log back into the room. (Not insurmountable)
- People can already spam the BH platform which can reach more than 30 people. Another option would be teleacoustics.

Not saying it's impossible to do, just that it may not be as effective as hoped.

Regards.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

The idea is good because it will allow people to look for squads on the go, instead of spending 3 hours on the bh platform looking for a cleric and teles is an expensive way to advertise your bh needs.

Well, teles arent that expensive but if some people refuse to pay wine fees or to teleport into dungeons....

But what Chillum said is true. About the limitations of the room.

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

Chillum - Dreamweaver wrote: »

If there were a BH (or indeed T-T) room here are a few things which spring to mind:

- Room creator is seeking a BH 69 and creates the room seeking a squad.
- Various people come into the room seeking a variety of BHs from 29 up to Warsong / T-T so no guarantee you would find people seeking the same BH in the room.
- Due to room limit, only 30 people at most in the room as someone previously stated.
- Room creator eventually gets BH done and may feel they no longer need to host the room. Someone else would need to do so and thus room turnover maybe high. Not everyone may notice and log back into the room. (Not insurmountable)
- People can already spam the BH platform which can reach more than 30 people. Another option would be teleacoustics.

Not saying it's impossible to do, just that it may not be as effective as hoped.

Regards.

Hence my point was to be specific with the Chat Room names. There's no use for a name called "BH". But there could be different rooms for BH39, BH51, BH59, .... etc

If the chat rooms were named properly, I don't see why someone looking for a BH29 squad would get into a BH100 room. Unless if he was just a real annoying person or a beggar.

Just come to think of it, there's the Head Hunter platform for gatherers of BHs. How about TTs, FCs, boss quests, etc ? I only managed to get into a TT squad twice because I could never find ppl. Also for some boss quests, I didn't get to do them until I was 10 levels after I first got the quests. That was very very sad and frustrating.

As for the limit of 30 ppl, if there were 30 ppl looking for a particular dungeon or boss, we should all be jumping up and down rejoicing holding a huge party. Cos that's the idea of the chat rooms. And 30 ppl = 5 full squads if the classes are ok. (Let's hope there wouldn't be only 1 cleric or 1 tank out of the 30). And if the room is full, so what ? Create a new one if you need a squad.

The reason why I think this method is better than teles (apart from the cost) is cos tele's only last for a few minutes (if you're lucky no one is spamming world chat) in your chat pannel. But chat rooms are there until you physically click to close it or when you found a full squad.

The only problem is that not many ppl check out the chat rooms. Hence my post in the forum b:chuckle

I just hope more ppl are aware of this option and let's utilize the chat rooms.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

what chill wrote: BH/TT room host would close chat soon after he get party or BH done

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

Sure of course.

But does that matter ? Whoever needs a squad can create a new room.

It's main purpose is to find squad members, not to chat. So when there's a full squad, mission accomplished.

This is a bit different to FBurDROPS where high lvls stay inside to chat.

So to summarize:
1. Need a squad ? Check chat rooms. Join if there's one for your quest / dungeon.
2. None there? Create one (with a meaningful name). Then continue to quest, grind, AH, catshop ..... etc
3. Found a full squad ? Grats and off you go
4. Leave chat room.

StAnger - Dreamweaver

And put the specific need as the topic. For example "Need BH59" or something like that.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sure of course.

But does that matter ? Whoever needs a squad can create a new room.

It's main purpose is to find squad members, not to chat. So when there's a full squad, mission accomplished.

This is a bit different to FBurDROPS where high lvls stay inside to chat.

So to summarize:
1. Need a squad ? Check chat rooms. Join if there's one for your quest / dungeon.
2. None there? Create one (with a meaningful name). Then continue to quest, grind, AH, catshop ..... etc
3. Found a full squad ? Grats and off you go
4. Leave chat room.

It wasn't like that back when the room is just started. Even now, there are some people complaining about people not so willing to do FB but rather stay in the room to chat lol

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

There seems to be an unspoken rule that there be only one FBurDROPS chat room and that it be hosted by only certain well known players ?

But this method I'm suggesting is different. There can be many chat rooms hosted by any player wanting a squad. Exactly the same as anyone can use a tele for world chat.

If a particular room is full with 30 players chatting inside, so be it. Create a new one. Players who are really looking for a squad will find you.

This method give players another place to find squad, on top of your faction/friend list, spamming normal and world chat.

StAnger - Dreamweaver

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

There seems to be an unspoken rule that there be only one FBurDROPS chat room and that it be hosted by only certain well known players ?

But this method I'm suggesting is different. There can be many chat rooms hosted by any player wanting a squad. Exactly the same as anyone can use a tele for world chat.

If a particular room is full with 30 players chatting inside, so be it. Create a new one. Players who are really looking for a squad will find you.

This method give players another place to find squad, on top of your faction/friend list, spamming normal and world chat.

This is the 2nd time you've posted this same exact message. First time was in another thread. Spamming? I hope not.

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

huh ??

Not spamming ?? Where else did you see this thread ?

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

lol, sorry if I seem to be repeating myself a few times. Cos I have a feeling that people don't really understand what I was trying to say.

StAnger - Dreamweaver

Now I don't even remember whether or not I did see that post twice or if I had this page open in two different tabs b:beatup

Anyway I get what you're saying. Its the same thing I said earlier. Make a chat room titled with the specific FB, BH, or even TT you're seeking and wait for people to show up. Of course then you have to get the rest of the server on board with the idea. Not everyone checks the forums.

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

Exactly. Glad to see someone agrees. Thanks b:pleased

Chillum - Dreamweaver

Perhaps you can try it the way you suggested and tell us how it goes?

I don't particularly mind being proved wrong about my assertions.

Regards.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

1st thing to do if you wana go on with this idea is advertise the existence of the chat rooms. I'm sure not everyone knows about the chat room functionality in PWI(I only know about it in my 80s lol) so thats what you need to do right first.

Sometimes, the condition for the same bh might be different like free wines or the order the boss is killed. Be sure to clarify that as they go in the chat room.

And some people are on the lookout for TTs, BHs and maybe even FC all at the same time. Making a multi purpose room and keeping it open might not be such a bad idea. Still depends on how many people know about the chat rooms though.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

other obstacle would be that ppl on same lvl would need different bhs, so guy who opened chat for bh79 will close it to join/make another for bh69 (u can be just in one room at time, which is yet another obstacle :P)


one room for all bhs wont work cuz there too many ppl with different bhs

small rooms wont work cuz they too small and their life span would be very short.

so i dont think if ppl will bother to check if maybe someone made room just for their bh at thier lvl, with bosses in order they want, if they can just shout near plate or wc



f you advertie it for long so it would become another common way to look for squads then maybe..

but gl with that

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

Thank you all for the input. I'll try to advertise it, on the weekend when there are more players on. b:thanksb:kiss

GrimReaperHC - Dreamweaver

Good idea. Support.

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

Thanks GrimReaperHC.

Paramedic is right about ppl needing a few things at the same time too. But I suppose that is no different to when someone is already is a 3/6 squad for BH51, then seeing a tele for a 5/6 squad for BH Zimo. It might be fun to start a poll to see what ppl would do in that situation.

Anyway, back to this topic. The hardest thing is to advertise this in game.

For me to spam for ppl to check out the chat rooms, but I only have 1 chat room setup because of the restrictions, is very ineffective. And I don't want to keep spamming until people start putting me on their blacklist.

I believe people will start to notice if there're at least like 5 chat rooms (apart from FBurDROPS and MafiaRUS) for FCs, TTs, or BHs etc in the list. But unfortunately I can't do this on my own.b:sad

I might put a link of this thread in the General Discussion section in the forum b:victory

And if you think this is a good method, please help spread the word and start setting up chat rooms b:thanksb:kiss

ZAPATON - Sanctuary

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver wrote: »

But I suppose that is no different to when someone is already is a 3/6 squad for BH51, then seeing a tele for a 5/6 squad for BH Zimo. It might be fun to start a poll to see what ppl would do in that situation.

Try... picking 1? Unless you can do Zimo fast enough to get back to the BH51 squad before they get to the boss you need for BH (If they save a spot for you, that is) .

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ppl on same lvl would need different bhs

Just name the chat room after the boss. Example: BHZimo

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

FBurDrops

this constant room seems to replace a guildchat for some people like CHILLUUUM


i guess most people don know that the chat feature exists or dont care or join FBurDrops in the frist place

its so much cheaper then spamming non-sense in world Chat

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

HexOmega - Dreamweaver wrote: »

FBurDrops

this constant room seems to replace a guildchat for some people like CHILLUUUM


i guess most people don know that the chat feature exists or dont care or join FBurDrops in the frist place

its so much cheaper then spamming non-sense in world Chat

but you get ignored most of the time if you spam "looking for bh" or "looking for tt".
and most of the people in fburdrops are high levels, making it hard to find people who need the low levels bh in there.

And if everyone comes in the room for bh, it kinda defeat the purpose of the room anyway -.-

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

Link to the thread under General Discussion
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=803012

I'll be posting updates in there b:chuckleb:bye

Baalbak - Dreamweaver

Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

but you get ignored most of the time if you spam "looking for bh" or "looking for tt".
and most of the people in fburdrops are high levels, making it hard to find people who need the low levels bh in there.

And if everyone comes in the room for bh, it kinda defeat the purpose of the room anyway -.-

maybe the Damage Dealer classes have a hard time of it, but as a Barb I've never had issue 1 with buying a tele for whatever going rate is at the time and shouting "82 Barb Forming [insert purpose here] squad PM me class/lvl for invite".

some nights its slow and I only get 4 or 5 responses.. other nights I have hold people off with a bat b:shocked

though I think its odd how I sometimes get 2 or 3 other barbs who want to come with me and I can rarely get just one with my archerb:surrender

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

Its better at later levels where people seems to be able to look past the teleport fee and teleacoustic costs, but I've played an alt before, and I've waited 1 hour for a BH 51 before(not just once) b:surrender

And as a barb, you already got 1 important class in the squad, I was playing a wizzie alt and it would seem that barbs and clerics are hard to come by.(but sometimes I do get lucky xD)

btw i was talking about spamming the chat room and not spamming the world chat =P

Girlgirlhuwi - Dreamweaver

Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

but I've played an alt before, and I've waited 1 hour for a BH 51 before(not just once) b:surrender

Very very true. I have spent the whole night waiting at the BH platform for a full squad. Some squad members left because we were going nowhere with the squad. I don't blame them at all. It's the situation that's really frustrating. b:angry