Seal of the God is useless

YordaUjain - Dreamweaver

With divine aid, this skill fully seals target for a long
time, and simultaneously freezes it. However, the mighty power causes
less damage. Among the Winged Elves society there have been countless
discussions about this skill and none have
denied its usefulness.
Seals and freezes target, making it receive 90% less damage. Lasts
15 seconds. Effective only on hostile targets.

Review: You seal the target for a mimzy 15 seconds, while effectively making him unkillable, I for one do not see any use for this skill apart from using it maybe if the party pulls a mob by mistake, by sleep can stun for upto 30+ secs and do just as good. Compared to the other 100 skills out there I can honestly admit the clerics seal of god is by far the worst.

Using it on a squad member would have a use, but you can not do that either.

Airyll - Dreamweaver

Sounds to me like a last-ditch last-chance skill.

You know, the kind of "use this, you have 15 seconds to use items, genie skills or whatever else you can pull out your **** to save your skin" skill that tends to crop up every now and then.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

Look at the cooldown. Thats where it shines.

umm you do realise that you can use it to chain your combos and stuff right? like when your sleep skill is in cd, or plume shell is in cd, silent seal is in cd, you can cast it.


Also, this is the only skill that can deny a 5aps DD of a good spot in the nien event now that expel is broken

ALso, you can gank 2 people in pk with it, cast this on someone like a cleric and you dont have to worry about him/her for 15 sec

There are so many ways to use this skill.

Also when rushing TT alone, you can sleep one mob, seal another.

Too bad it costs 40mil

Engeli - Sanctuary

i must say when i read the skill for the first time i was like... hmm wth can i use this skill for? O.o

as said only usefull if your almost dying etc. and need some time to Ih yourself or something b:chuckle

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Isnt' this the skill that clerics use to keep cata pullers alive in base?

YordaUjain - Dreamweaver

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Isnt' this the skill that clerics use to keep cata pullers alive in base?

You can only use it on hostile targets I think.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

Yea, the enemy's cata pullers b:chuckle

another use for it : cancel a channeling skill when your sleep is in cooldown. (like BoA)

i have to admit though, that this skill is not so helpful in PvE.

And I would advice all clerics to get the other lvl 100 skill first so that we can do a pure magic attacking combo(no more plume shot ftw ^^)

Michael_Dark - Lost City

All I know is that we're farming world bosses and giving the skills to clerics for TW... Apparently it's really useful there.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

The best part about this skill is it only has 30 sec cooldown and 15 sec duration so yes, it is definitely useful in TW when you can take out x DD half the time if you have x clerics with seal of the god. And I dont think you can resist it with anti stun pots too.

Renza - Raging Tide

i do think seal of the god is quite useful, u just gota find the right moments to use it as people have said, but Elven Boon cud use some tweeking up, there aint a chance im gonna burn 800mp per cast on a skill thats weaker then sage/demon plume shot/cyclone, that has a 50% chance to recover 500hp and a 15% chance to seal, 15% is pretty low saying ur buring 800mp per attempt...as good as it is b:surrender

NightRage - Raging Tide

I take it you've never been in PK mode.

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

Um..lets see
This skill is killer in TW
When you have 2 cata barbs pushing, you use seal of the god on one of them, while killing the other catapult puller, or any high hitting DDs or cat clerics

The other amazing uses for it, already stated.

Borsuc - Raging Tide

YordaUjain - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Compared to the other 100 skills out there I can honestly admit the clerics seal of god is by far the worst.

There is really no competition on wizard's Manifest Virtue for being the worst.

You must have 20k mana for it to have same effect as basic spark burst, even though it lasts 30 secs its cooldown is 5 minutes and costs 1000 mana (and of course wastes a spark).

This skill is not just a waste to acquire, it's a waste of chi to use as well.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

i do think seal of the god is quite useful, u just gota find the right moments to use it as people have said, but Elven Boon cud use some tweeking up, there aint a chance im gonna burn 800mp per cast on a skill thats weaker then sage/demon plume shot/cyclone, that has a 50% chance to recover 500hp and a 15% chance to seal, 15% is pretty low saying ur buring 800mp per attempt...as good as it is b:surrender

To be honest, it is worth it. Look at the cooldown and casting time. It allows you to chain a magic combo(something impossible with our limited/useless skills(unless you want thunderball)

The seal(15% on elven boon), as i heard from a pro cleric doesnt do much.

Cleric's lvl 100 skills are definitely more useful than the other people's lvl 100 skills just because of the short cooldowns. Other classes normally have a cooldown of 5minutes which makes it even more situational than ours.

Note that the lvl 100 skills kinda fill in the gap of what we need.
Lack of disables/CC[cleric is the only class without stun even from demon/sage add ons] -> seal of god
Lack of fast channel, fast cooldown, decent damage magic based skill[not going to even consider thunderball or other spark eating skills] -> elven boon

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

Btw pro mods, shouldn't this go to the cleric forums?

Futurelord - Dreamweaver

Arrg i wouldn't miss out on a discussion about clerics.

Seal of the Gods: hmm, seal target, debuff target, demon spark self, silent seal target right when it wear off, let er rip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Elven boon: silent target, cyclone, boon (yay for fast channling), cyclone, sleep, tempest!

I rest my case.

Rillien - Heavens Tear

It's gotten more intelligent answers here than it ever would on cleric forums. They're so boring b:cry

Quilue - Sanctuary

I don't think you can really use Seal of God in an attack chain because it gives a 90% buff similar to barb turtle on your target. I don't know if it can be purged, but I do know that the seal cannot be purified by a friendly cleric.

One idea is to use it to break up a cat squad. Make them leave behind their cleric or something.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

i agree that it has better answers here than clerics forum b:surrender

asked this a few months back and only got like 1 or 2 proper response

IAmNoodle - Lost City

your not even lvl 100 and some of tyou are not even EP's now i adimit for a normal player who spends hours just to get a few mill this skill does not seem worth it.

people can be killed in 15 seconds with it on i have seen it done several times. but besides that in TW we use it as another skill to keep p def chars off you.. this skill is given to eps in a cata team they use it and run away or if your in base a enemy killing you it gives you 15 seconds of not dieing....

every skill has it down sides like sleep if a player is hit then sleep goes away this solves that.

it is worth the 60m in my point of view but thats because i could aford it and use it feqw hunderd times in A TW

also say they took away the 90% dmg reduce people would say it is OP be like a veno nova lasting 15 seconds not 3.....

RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary

Meh...most classes 100 skills are either plagued by ....

1. Insane cooldowns which are completely unreasonable
2. Way too much chi for the skills effect to be worth it.
3. Effect just isent worthwhile period.

Now if you look at tideborn 79/100 skills you will notice that theirs have NONE of these problems....really fair is it not?

Seriously need to tweak 100 skills...

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

Noodle, you don't need to be a certain class to know certain things about them.

And yea what you said is pretty much true, if people think seal of the god is pointless, then so is chromatic seal.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Its a PVP skill and a pretty good one at that.

Seal a nix, kill the veno.
Ohh **** a sin popped out of nowhere! Haha sealed!

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

lol WTT both wizard 100 skills for that one


thats time to reset all cooldowns omg o.o

Aubree - Dreamweaver

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't think you can really use Seal of God in an attack chain because it gives a 90% buff similar to barb turtle on your target. I don't know if it can be purged, but I do know that the seal cannot be purified by a friendly cleric.

One idea is to use it to break up a cat squad. Make them leave behind their cleric or something.

It can not be purged, purified etc. This is very useful skill. I never use it in TW on opposing cata barbs tho. Last thing I want them to do is take 90% less damage. It is a great escape skill. I have used it to seal anyone trying to stop me from following my cata barb, and also when I was being ganked in PK by a bm and barb. I was able to sleep, and seal the barb so I could freeze and kill the bm first. Not to mention that during that 15 secs you can be spamming IH, debuffing etc and unlike our other sleep and freeze skills, it is guarenteed to be 15 seconds, not an up to amount of time.

truekossy

RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary wrote: »

Meh...most classes 100 skills are either plagued by ....

1. Insane cooldowns which are completely unreasonable
2. Way too much chi for the skills effect to be worth it.
3. Effect just isent worthwhile period.

Now if you look at tideborn 79/100 skills you will notice that theirs have NONE of these problems....really fair is it not?

Seriously need to tweak 100 skills...

*looks at Assassin 79 skill that's basically just faster meditation*

Uh-huh.... whatever you say.

Islamey - Dreamweaver

Now if you look at tideborn 79/100 skills you will notice that theirs have NONE of these problems....really fair is it not?

Tideborn 79/100 skills are terribad.
Heal trance is just meditating. Condense thorn doesn't increase damage noticebly and doesnt even last long enough to be useful.
Whats the point of spell cutter when we have like, 5 other stuns?

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

Islamey - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Tideborn 79/100 skills are terribad.
Heal trance is just meditating. Condense thorn doesn't increase damage noticebly and doesnt even last long enough to be useful.
Whats the point of spell cutter when we have like, 5 other stuns?

tideborn /= assasins....

psychics get hard hitting skill with their lvl 79 skill and lvl 100 skills with decent cooldown.

and assassins, the 20% life drain thingy is kinda good too, since it has a fairly short cooldown for its duration.

Yulk - Heavens Tear

seal and freeze for 15 secs.... but you won't hurt them much. I managed using "useless" mage bane on BM, you can manage seal of the God as well.

Won't thunderball's DOT ignore the damage reduction too? Sure people say it sucks, most people don't use it no more. But you can still bypass the damage reduction from your enemies, thats the good thing about DOTs.

Like said before, its like a last resort move, better than being slowed

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear

Yulk contributed something valid :O

Still, the DoT isn't all that much damage; probably better off casting something else.

Mrvate - Heavens Tear

truekossy wrote: »

*looks at Assassin 79 skill that's basically just faster meditation*

Uh-huh.... whatever you say.

actually yeah, that is very nice actually. considering how much faster it is then regular meditating, pve wise while grinding if most classes had it they'd save tons on pots. sure not a pvp skill like all your others. but its still a very nice skill. though I'd hate to part with them, I'd probably trade both of my 79 skills just for that one.