time to put this matter to rest....

DemonWith_In - Dreamweaver
DemonWith_In - Dreamweaver Posts: 7 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Arigora Colosseum
R the Tideborne OP or no?b:angry
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  • Falcondance - Heavens Tear
    Falcondance - Heavens Tear Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    A level 63 sin in 30/40 armor beat me on our first duel. The second, third and fourth duels I had no trouble killing him easily and continue to kill sins around my level range, I just had to get my strategy down. I'm of the opinion that the reason that people believe that Tideborn are overpowered is because they don't know how to handle them yet. I am, however, a carebear, and I cannot give an opinion on their state in PvP servers, where my opinion might be different.
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  • Runemine - Dreamweaver
    Runemine - Dreamweaver Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Only one problem with it is Assassin that our higher level even by 1 level can stealth and kill before attack that is unfair advantage unless a pot that can make it ineffective for some time.
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Nope, I love fighting them xD


    Sin's are REALLY fun to fight, cause moment they get scared they stealth. At that point, I cloud sprint. Tab to a mob, Roar it and Boom! they are outta stealth and stunned for 6 secs, that is plenty of time for me to beat them to death with me fists :3
  • Lady_of_rage - Lost City
    Lady_of_rage - Lost City Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Nope, I love fighting them xD


    Sin's are REALLY fun to fight, cause moment they get scared they stealth. At that point, I cloud sprint. Tab to a mob, Roar it and Boom! they are outta stealth and stunned for 6 secs, that is plenty of time for me to beat them to death with me fists :3

    LOL, only cowards stealth out of a 1v1, and only idiots allow themsleves to be stunned out of stealth by an aoeb:bye
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  • Archers_Soul - Lost City
    Archers_Soul - Lost City Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I like the levels of those who posted... Lol
    I don't care how old or young you are, how small your **** is, how much of a nerd irl you are or how depressed you are that you never will get laid. There is no reason to act like an A-hole to everyone on an mmorpg. Its a shame that I have to take time out of my day to tell people "stop being an A-hole". So I end with this, if your acting like an A-hole, and some one tells you your being an A-hole chances are your being an A-hole.
  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    As a cleric I have found sins hard to deal with but entirely impossible. they have several advantages

    sleep resist
    teleport-stun
    stealth
    stunlock
    deaden nerves
    skill evasion

    their disadvantages are
    long cooldowns
    LA is squishy

    I've been experimenting and I have yet to find a way to beat sins.

    Psysics are hard too but I suspect that a charm really really helps.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

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  • SlashSin - Lost City
    SlashSin - Lost City Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    TB aren't OP at all! I kill both classes with ease, any level/build b:chuckle
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lady_of_rage - Lost City wrote: »
    LOL, only cowards stealth out of a 1v1, and only idiots allow themsleves to be stunned out of stealth by an aoeb:bye

    You would be surprised how many....-.-
    Magicgabe - Lost City wrote: »
    As a cleric I have found sins hard to deal with but entirely impossible. they have several advantages

    sleep resist
    teleport-stun
    stealth
    stunlock
    deaden nerves
    skill evasion

    their disadvantages are
    long cooldowns
    LA is squishy

    I've been experimenting and I have yet to find a way to beat sins.

    Psysics are hard too but I suspect that a charm really really helps.

    They are killable Gabe...The key is more in watching their timing. I have killed and been killed by them. The main prob is when they keep stealthing to get another 3 sparks for themselves >_>

    TBH... my favorite thing to do is wait until they 3 spark then by that time the stun has worn off = i 3 spark = they return to stealth = ROFL...So worth it even if I die b:chuckle
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  • DrHook - Lost City
    DrHook - Lost City Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Sins dont bother me much (Me thankfull Im HA),and with the true emptiness shield Psys do like 40dmg.
  • halflyfe
    halflyfe Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    the only problem I got with sins is that when they bout to die they stealth and just keep on running simply weak
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    No, I don't think TB are OP.

    Sins - If you can escape their stunlock, its usually over for them. It just feels like fighting a sin is luck base....I hate hitting them for 1 damage sometimes.b:angry

    Psys - Hard hitters, but ohhhh so squishy.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No, I don't think TB are OP.

    Sins - If you can escape their stunlock, its usually over for them. It just feels like fighting a sin is luck base....I hate hitting them for 1 damage sometimes.b:angry

    Psys - Hard hitters, but ohhhh so squishy.

    Agree, it become a gamble game where they (sin) also has insurance in case they got fatal hit. It's just seem sin skill is user friendly . . b:surrender
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    every class needs to be fixed... not just TB . Same with equipment... I want to have TT or nirvana pole hammer with faith ability on it.

    I'll state for all classes

    Spark burst = it is ridiculously overpowered, sparking with unlimited times. Why it does not have a cooldown? It should of had cooldowns for like 1 minute or more. Preventing people to permanently spark

    -int and -chan = huge source of them is broken. There should be a limit (and altered) for these or better off removing them

    -huge amount of attack / defense evels = ability to gain 80% attack levels or more and around 48 defense levels is just sick. though attack levels overpower defense levels. It is really annoying to have both which makes gameplay rather dull

    -Locks = anyone can lock besides barb and veno, which is a bit unfair to them, shared cooldowns are better

    PVP is nothing but gambling, first hitter wins
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    -int and -chan = huge source of them is broken.

    -int =/= -chan b:bye
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lol. This will never be put to end. A week later, this thread dies and another TB QQ thread pops up.

    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    every class needs to be fixed... not just TB . Same with equipment... I want to have TT or nirvana pole hammer with faith ability on it.

    And I want daggers with -50% channel. Have you SEEN how long it takes to channel Throat Cut b:angry?
  • Teppeii - Dreamweaver
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,206 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'm oh so tired of Tideborn QQ. It's a challenge to overcome. They're new still so tactics against them aren't fully realised. Quit complaining and start thinking.
    On indefinite hiatus :3
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Teppeii - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm oh so tired of Tideborn QQ. It's a challenge to overcome. They're new still so tactics against them aren't fully realised. Quit complaining and start thinking.

    what challenge? PVP is easy as heck for the first hitter. Like I said, once you hit someone before they get to you, you win. Please quit and play an FPS game instead. It doesn't take a pro to one shot people or lock them and then just ^#$^ them up
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    what challenge? PVP is easy as heck for the first hitter. Like I said, once you hit someone before they get to you, you win. Please quit and play an FPS game instead. It doesn't take a pro to one shot people or lock them and then just ^#$^ them up

    Why are you still playing this useless game? It's all about who's got the faster internet.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Why are you still playing this useless game? It's all about who's got the faster internet.

    I need 10+ hour just to download the client before . . b:surrender
    And still not changed when i try download other game today . .
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Why are you still playing this useless game? It's all about who's got the faster internet.

    well I have to say it to you, I do like PVE in this game... I just don't have OP things... XD
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    what challenge? PVP is easy as heck for the first hitter. Like I said, once you hit someone before they get to you, you win. Please quit and play an FPS game instead. It doesn't take a pro to one shot people or lock them and then just ^#$^ them up

    :P So if you get the first hit on a sin you will have a 100% chance of winning...

    wrong the sin will just go into stealth, spark than kill you.. same go's for the other classes.

    If you learn how to survive the first hit and deal with the situation you can spring back and win. ijs
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  • DevilishTaki - Lost City
    DevilishTaki - Lost City Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    what challenge? PVP is easy as heck for the first hitter. Like I said, once you hit someone before they get to you, you win. Please quit and play an FPS game instead. It doesn't take a pro to one shot people or lock them and then just ^#$^ them up

    This rule only applies if the classes can 1 shot each other. If not counter killing is extremely easy in some situations. I've counter killed sins on my psy and archers on my wizard for example. Just because one person gets the 1st hit in doesn't mean they'll always win, they just have the attacking advantage.

    Of course sins and coming out of stealth and their ridiculous stuns are the exception to the above sometimes. b:surrender
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