Is Nirvana Possible for Non cash shoppers??

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  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Asperitas - Lost City wrote: »
    Farm? Preposterous!

    Farming TT99 is perfectly plausible. :o

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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Of course it's possible, since the mats you need drop from bosses, not from the boutique.

    Unless you mean possible in a time-frame you desire. Then it depends on what that is.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes it's possible.

    Easy in any way? Hell Nah :D!



    See, the CS'ers of PWI are the people who get the most fun (and annoyance) because they work. The people who are heavy CS'ers....don't have any fun or true playing power. The light/medium CS'ers may be a little ahead but are like the Non-CS'ers, but only because they use the gold to make coin XD

    How is cash shopping fun? -It removes most of the challenge and sense of accomplishment from the game. I think on mean average that the non CS'ers are on par with the heavy CS'ers.
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  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Of course it's possible, since the mats you need drop from bosses, not from the boutique.

    Most of the green mats are dirt, with the exception of a few (ghostmasks, and giant beasts something are worth a few 100k I'm pretty sure). However, a large majority of the gold mats, which are the key items in making tt99 gear, are created with chips, most of which come from tokens, all of which come from gift packs, which come from the boutique.
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  • GHealz - Archosaur
    GHealz - Archosaur Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    what are the chances of gold mats dropping?
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  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    GHealz - Archosaur wrote: »
    for a new server not much PPL ARE HIGH ENOUGH!!
    and im a cleric i have no choice BUT to farm

    and also...why cant we use the green TT99 weapons to make nirvana??

    Because that's just how it is. Why can't we make rare molds with 5 DQs? Why can't we make Nirvana gear out of TT60 magic swords and 5 Crystals? It's just how it is. Dumb question.
    GHealz - Archosaur wrote: »
    ffs stop trolling geez

    Take your own advice, really.
    GHealz - Archosaur wrote: »
    what are the chances of gold mats dropping?

    pwdatabase.com/pwi/


    You know awfully little about the game for a guy with chars on 3 servers, a lv99 and such opinionated threads all the time.
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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Maybe go play an alt or something while waiting for your server to catch up in level?

    And you can use your tt99 green to make nirvana, but its not the most cost efficient one

    tt99 green x4 -> tt100 -> g15 nirvana
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  • GHealz - Archosaur
    GHealz - Archosaur Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    esuna what is the purpose of these forums i'm in General DISCUSSION what i post is to gain a general view, if i wanted one persons opinion i would pm one person in game, when i started this game, it didnt have nirvana it was added on when i was playing in RT, where i didn't pay much attention to it since i was lv 92, also i pay attention to what i need atm, which is now getting tt99 gears etc, so this *trolling* shat u all come with really has to stop, it really irritating 1 person asks a questions u get 3 asses like u saying stop trolling. so **** i'm using the forums, am i using it wrongly??....dont think so,

    if anything JUST DONT POST ON MY THREADS, u are a nuisance, i don't even get why u all post on MY threads, gtfo i never wanted u, rawrh's or Nightrages approval or infomation, as u can clearly see u 3 are the only trolls on forums as u are bitter and d0uches GG u are the forum trolls, 3 guys all probably buttsexing each other.

    if u haven't realized no1 else but u 3 come on ppls post with the trolling ****
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  • Ranfa - Dreamweaver
    Ranfa - Dreamweaver Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    GHealz - Archosaur wrote: »
    what are the chances of gold mats dropping?

    They are actually about the same chance as Crusade Order drops (roughly 10%). So every time you see a Crusade Order drop from TT bosses, you can think about the gold mat that could have dropped instead. b:victory
  • GHealz - Archosaur
    GHealz - Archosaur Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Ranfa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    They are actually about the same chance as Crusade Order drops (roughly 10%). So every time you see a Crusade Order drop from TT bosses, you can think about the gold mat that could have dropped instead. b:victory


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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    GHealz - Archosaur wrote: »
    OK i am really down here, i ent to teh nirvana forges and saw i needed TT99 Armour and wep to make them, i said ok, wont be that hard, when i went to check the mysterious merchant on the price of these gold mats....it killed all aspirations, 840 chips for 1 gold mat and i dont know the coin price, also i cant use TT99 green wep( broken dream) to make nirvana, also i was told that i myself have to craft it and require lv6 BS and tailor, which i dont have, so i cant trade my gear for some1 to craft it as TT99 binds on wearing.

    so my question is...is Nirvana gears possible for non cash shoppers??
    astypoo played merchant and got nirvana gear and weapon ;o
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I did 170 Nirvana runs in the last 2x 2 week event, farmed/bought ~320 uncannies.. using the leftover cash from rapture splits and I don't cash shop.. tho it was much easier when uncanny markets were cheap (400K) and rapture market was 2M+
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Farmed all my 99s during x2. Now even without x2 farmed enough for nirvana pants + tons of $ left over. Wasn't in a day or a week though...

    so let me guess...i have to go raise my Tailoring and blk smith, farm insane amounts of coins, buy tons of chips boxes, how u all do it, idk
    most i ever had in game was 11mil
    You are 99 & I'm going to bet you'll hit 100 before you get the TT or nirvana. Youo nly need to learn the 6th lvl skills if you plan on wearing your 99TT before you make it into nirvana. If you don't equip, you can get another person to craft for you.

    Furthermore, why not go lunar nirvana? It doesn't bind, unless I'm hugely mistaken o.O. Have you looked in to the stats & mat prices on your serv?


    The 800smth chips you were talking about I assume was the chest Illusion stone piece, which is yeah... very expensive.
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  • Mahn - Sanctuary
    Mahn - Sanctuary Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    GHealz - Archosaur wrote: »
    ... also i was told that i myself have to craft it and require lv6 BS and tailor, which i dont have, so i cant trade my gear for some1 to craft it as TT99 binds on wearing.

    so my question is...is Nirvana gears possible for non cash shoppers??

    Binds upon wearing, not crafting
  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Mahn - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Binds upon wearing, not crafting

    Well if he's not wearing his TT99, just what is he using while farming Nirvana?
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well if he's not wearing his TT99, just what is he using while farming Nirvana?

    Um.. 90s stuff? I doubt he'd +ref 99 much to waste a bunch of chiekung or risk loosing ref anyway upon nirvana forge.

    + He's a cleric he won't get hit THAT much, A few AOEs here & there, even my pure squishy +4 gear cleric can manage easily.
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  • GHealz - Archosaur
    GHealz - Archosaur Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    well then, i have to start, thanks alot for advice and helpb:victory
    gonan start after i hit 100, gah 11mil to gob:cry
    but u all gave me hope
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  • Mapril - Archosaur
    Mapril - Archosaur Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lol G... you should level your **** up quickly and come hunt with us.. I already got 2 uncannies and 2 raptures.. which the uncannies i gave to shin...
  • Mapril - Archosaur
    Mapril - Archosaur Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    GHealz - Archosaur wrote: »
    well then, i have to start, thanks alot for advice and helpb:victory
    gonan start after i hit 100, gah 11mil to gob:cry
    but u all gave me hope
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Farmed all my 99s during x2. Now even without x2 farmed enough for nirvana pants + tons of $ left over. Wasn't in a day or a week though...


    You are 99 & I'm going to bet you'll hit 100 before you get the TT or nirvana. Youo nly need to learn the 6th lvl skills if you plan on wearing your 99TT before you make it into nirvana. If you don't equip, you can get another person to craft for you.

    Furthermore, why not go lunar nirvana? It doesn't bind, unless I'm hugely mistaken o.O. Have you looked in to the stats & mat prices on your serv?


    The 800smth chips you were talking about I assume was the chest Illusion stone piece, which is yeah... very expensive.

    you would not believe but the price of those items in our server is..... crazily expensive. Farming is the only way we non-cser could do to get geared up.
  • Lulznotwar - Lost City
    Lulznotwar - Lost City Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Maybe go play an alt or something while waiting for your server to catch up in level?

    And you can use your tt99 green to make nirvana, but its not the most cost efficient one

    tt99 green x4 -> tt100 -> g15 nirvana

    Actually you're wrong there ^^

    (Going by my barb for this math)

    Barb HH100 wep uses Golden mask 4 souledges etc

    Mask = ~30-40mil
    Soul Edges = ~10mil
    58x Ulti Subs = ~2mil

    So for the HH100 costs around 42-52mil all up to make/buy. then to Nirvana 230 x 2mil = 460

    So total cost around 500-510mil

    HH99 Brimstone Edges
    2x Illusion lord stones = 10mil for both?
    10x Illusion spring = 1mil
    30x Subs = 1.2mil

    So about 12-13mil for those.

    Then Raptures 100x = 200mil for first cast

    150 x = 300mil more for the G15

    So a total cost of 512-513mil give or take 10-20mil

    So HH100 is probably cheaper, and you end up with 2 sockets always, so Chienkun stones anyone for free 2 sock nirvana? And HH100 refines better in the meantime, has better stats, and generally is better overall hence why its HH100 not HH99
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