GM/Dev's Ignoring the Community

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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ur logic drives me nuts b:faint


    edit:

    aww wait, i got it! So ur saying that if we have a concern, then a ticket is the only way we will get a direct -or more or less generic- answer to our question?


    thats really great puenta for this topic
    BUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681

    AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682

    GAME IS DEAD wiki-article: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=938282
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ur logic drives me nuts b:faint

    My logic is sound. Your English is BR.

    aww wait, i got it! So ur saying that if we have a concern, then a ticket is the only way we will get a direct -or more or less generic- answer to our question?

    thats really great puenta for this topic

    If you want a mod or GM to respond to you directly, you need to send in a ticket. If you send in a ticket it does not necessarily go to technical support, only technical support issues go to technical support. If you have gameplay issues, it goes to a GM. If you have payment issues it goes to billing. Is that too adult a puzzle for you to understand?

    The forum is NOT here for GMs/Mods to give you direct individual answers to your direct questions. Understand?

    Ugh....
    I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    i know that arguing on forum is nice sport


    but ima afraid ur not writng about same what OP is =P
    BUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681

    AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682

    GAME IS DEAD wiki-article: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=938282
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    but ima afraid ur not writng about same what OP is =P

    I'm responding to your posts written in your confusing and horrible English. b:bye
    I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
  • ShadowOfLife - Dreamweaver
    ShadowOfLife - Dreamweaver Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    If you want a mod or GM to respond to you directly, you need to send in a ticket.

    Im pretty sure this is incorrect, I remember reading somewhere (from a GM/Mod) that only tech support read the tickets and rely information if needed otherwise they do not see it.

    If you have proof otherwise then correct me.

    Secondly if you are replying to Paramedics English then you can read it. This isnt an English class room and not everyones first language is English, be respectful.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Paramedic and Michael_dark, don't make me enter this thread.
    b:avoid

    jk jk.
    xD
    You can has minor fash release.
    x.x'
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Im pretty sure this is incorrect, I remember reading somewhere (from a GM/Mod) that only tech support read the tickets and rely information if needed otherwise they do not see it.

    Source?

    Have you even submitted a ticket before? For the tickets I've sent in regarding billing issues, the billing department was directly communicating with me. For gameplay issues, GMs were directly corresponding with me. I've never had to submit a ticket for technical support, but I'm sure if I sent one in, neither the billing dept or GM staff would be discussing that with me.

    b:bye
    I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Source?

    Have you even submitted a ticket before? For the tickets I've sent in regarding billing issues, the billing department was directly communicating with me. For gameplay issues, GMs were directly corresponding with me. I've never had to submit a ticket for technical support, but I'm sure if I sent one in, neither the billing dept or GM staff would be discussing that with me.

    b:bye

    +1.
    b:thanks
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    for teh love of..


    we arent really talking about ticket system in this game b:surrender
    BUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681

    AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682

    GAME IS DEAD wiki-article: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=938282
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    for teh love of..


    we arent really talking about ticket system in this game b:surrender

    It is your failure to comprehend the difference between reality and wishful thinking that led us here. b:bye
    I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    It is your failure to comprehend the difference between reality and wishful thinking that led us here. b:bye

    Really now? The last few pages of this thread has "mostly" been you and this other guy going back and forth, dissing eachother when possible. Seeing as how the OP has mainly been answered here in this situation, there is no need to continue pointlessly going after eachother. All it shows is how the both of you are unable to act civil on a online message board.

    /Endthread
    (Inb4rant)
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Really now?

    Yes. Really. I guess I have to talk to you even more plainly and simply than I have before. Perhaps you should be insulted, I would be. :P

    Paramedic's wishful thinking: (paraphrased) GMs are paid employees. This is their forum. They should be/are required to respond to every issue addressed here.

    Reality: This is a open forum for discussion. GMs and Mods do not answer individual concerns. That's what the ticketing system is for.

    I guess it's my fault trying to explain this to someone over and over who can't grasp the reality of the situation.
    The last few pages of this thread has "mostly" been you and this other guy going back and forth, dissing eachother when possible. Seeing as how the OP has mainly been answered here in this situation, there is no need to continue pointlessly going after eachother. All it shows is how the both of you are unable to act civil on a online message board.

    /Endthread
    (Inb4rant)

    Yes, you're quite civil as well. lol b:bye
    I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Yes. Really.

    Paramedic's wishful thinking: (paraphrased) GMs are paid employees. This is their forum. They should be/are required to respond to every issue addressed here.

    Reality: This is an "open" forum for discussion controlled by a hamster. GMs and Mods do not answer individual concerns. That's what the ticketing system is for.

    *fixed*
    b:avoid
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    *fixed*
    b:avoid

    lol you dirty rat! b:shutup
    I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    *fixed*
    b:avoid

    says the hamster whose thread was closed yesterday b:bye
    Thanks Chillum for the nice Sig.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Pyrya - Archosaur
    Pyrya - Archosaur Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Why's everyone always telling people to stop argueing because its childish? If theirs no life threatening topic at hand (unlike US government and BP) there seems to be no point in not letting people rage on. If you don't like it and complain well that kinda sounds like a personal problem, and sounds like QQ. Which is starting a whole other issue all together, in which they're going to argue with you. Its like a circle of rage, let it fizz and it'll die away by itself, saying somethings only going to make it worse.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    lol you dirty rat! b:shutup

    b:chuckle
    says the hamster whose thread was closed yesterday b:bye

    Technically wasn't me thread.
    :p
    It be created by Yulk and then influenced by Islamey.
    You has no proof it be me thread, even though it be filled hamsters.
    :D
    Now go to the refrigerator and get a nice cold drink.
    d(^.^)
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    first sign of a game being dumped starts in the forums, if the gm treasure their players, they would have to do things in the forums.

    and i am sure if a topic is being discussed into the 10th or more pages, it is no longer an "individual concern"
    Thanks Chillum for the nice Sig.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Tiduse - Lost City
    Tiduse - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Did any of u ever stop to Think from the GM's point of View?

    and here r a few thing i bet u dont know

    1-GM's arent Mexican slaves who work 24/7

    2-GM's have a life ~Not Jokeing~

    3-some of the Post r NOT worth ur time answering

    4-Most Complainers can find the answer if they spend 5 mins in the Customer support section

    5-http://support.perfectworld.com/ <----is there for a reason so use it
  • Kilala - Lost City
    Kilala - Lost City Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    this game is to secretive or how ever u wanna say it.maybe cuz its from china and u have no rights there.wish america would jus buy it and own itb:cry maybe this game will be more fun instead of always seem to pis everyone off.idk what r we talking about again?
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Did any of u ever stop to Think from the GM's point of View?

    and here r a few thing i bet u dont know

    1-GM's arent Mexican slaves who work 24/7

    2-GM's have a life and occasional a pet(s). ~Not Jokeing~

    3-some of the Post r NOT worth ur time answering

    4-Most Complainers can find the answer if they spend 5 mins in the Customer support section

    5-http://support.perfectworld.com/ <----is there for a reason so use it

    b:thanks
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Finra - Sanctuary
    Finra - Sanctuary Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I'm sure the GMs/developers are keeping an eye for the bigger picture.

    As mentioned several times by other people, this game is from China. Constraint no.1.

    This is a international game, so that already tell us there are over millions of people that can associate themselves to not just this game but other mmos. No one can please everyone, and no one can make everyone happy because we are all different individuals. I might like this alot, but someone else hates it. So who do they attend to? Personally I think they will make their decisions based on the number of positive and negative consequences, as well as their abilities, and the over all response. If the response to say a certain change pleased 80% of the population, the other 20% will still complain. There will never be a 100%.

    Creating the game and maintaining it is already very very hard, being able to attend to our problems is not that bad at the moment. We should all be considerate and think deeper before complaining about things, or make use of the search engine here or even google for questions; we should think about how to minus the number of problems we give to the gm/developers, not increase.

    I'm sure they are not ignoring us, just imagine yourself being in their shoes.


    -this is from a future game developer-
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Yes. Really. I guess I have to talk to you even more plainly and simply than I have before. Perhaps you should be insulted, I would be. :P

    Paramedic's wishful thinking: (paraphrased) GMs are paid employees. This is their forum. They should be/are required to respond to every issue addressed here.

    Reality: This is a open forum for discussion. GMs and Mods do not answer individual concerns. That's what the ticketing system is for.

    I guess it's my fault trying to explain this to someone over and over who can't grasp the reality of the situation.

    b:sleep

    guy in first post his concerns about how bad is line of communication between pwi and community, and that community may feel like nobody cares.


    community manager write few posts later that gms do care, but just dont write back on topics much and -if im getting it right- maybe they should do it more often, so community wouldnt feel ignored.


    i wrote that gms cant write much because those topics mostly, arent very comfortable for pwe.

    if community ask: 'what with jones blessings? they ruin game balance. how long will they last?'

    i somehow cannot imagine CM answering: 'well, management think that those blessing bring much benefit for our company, so we wont remove them till interest wont be smaller, so we need like -random number- 100k 'clicks' on page more. Thank you for your patience.

    b:chuckle


    what ur writing about i dont even.. :P
    BUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681

    AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682

    GAME IS DEAD wiki-article: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=938282
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    but micheal do have a point about your english =P
    i find quite hard to read even though the message is till there....b:surrender
    Thanks Chillum for the nice Sig.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    uhhh. i didnt know my english is so, so bad

    =P

    i dont have very large problems with communication in game

    but maybe that because friends learned my english b:chuckle


    if Airyll would read this topic she would write that i speak paraese b:laugh


    i will work on it.. =P
    BUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681

    AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682

    GAME IS DEAD wiki-article: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=938282
  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    spenrico stop making threads and spamming everywhere about your ugly character, nobody cares.
  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Customer satisfaction at its finest.
  • Malei - Sanctuary
    Malei - Sanctuary Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    rofl! What is this I don't even...
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    if Airyll would read this topic she would write that i speak paraese b:laugh

    It's not that you have a bad vocabulary, it's your actual use that riddles me. I think it's largely you misinterpret what I say, then I misinterpret what you say... we came to this conclusion a few months back, remember? b:surrender




    Editing game files is bad. You didn't even bother to show your character... you went to camera mode to hide the rest of it? lol
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  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    There's not much I can add that hasn't already been said, but I'll toss it out here as food for thought.

    The main reason I quit playing was, and still is, MANAGEMENT.

    GMs I have varying amounts of sympathy and respect for. Devs I have virtually no respect for, but mostly because they're not even in our country, and don't give two fewmets about us. If you want to glare hatefully at anyone, it ought to be the higher-ups in PWE corporate making boneheaded decisions, blatant cash-grabs, and taking a very large **** all over their namesake franchise. (Pack after pack after pack, tideborn up to our ears, the worst excuse for a game website I've ever seen in my life, and Zippo shops to name a few.)

    -Anyone remember the hair issue when Tideborn were rolled out? It would have been a very simple matter to include the changed hairstyles as additional options - after waiting how many months to find out those hairs were wrong all along, I might add. Instead, we were tossed makeover scrolls and a couple weeks later started having boutique hairstyles dangled around to distract us.
    -Two threads, several tickets, and almost unanimous support from the community, and yet the god-awful website layout remains. PWE is still allowing a third party (Gizmodo) to post whatever news blurbs they like on PWE's websites, with no moderation whatsoever. (The **** Detection Stick comes readily to mind). I pray for the day when Gizmodo runs a story on how F2P MMOs are bad for you. Or better yet, how [Other F2P MMO] is set to revolutionize the industry. The flash ads are just chocolate sprinkles on the dung heap.

    ...There's only so many blatant "F--- You"s anyone can take. Sorry, I've had my fill.
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