What's best method of solo fighting with Cleric?

Sekzkilla - Raging Tide
Sekzkilla - Raging Tide Posts: 54 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Cleric
I am having great difficulty engaging in solo battles even at Lev23. I have utilized the pure Cleric build: 4 in Magic; 1 in Strength every level (since my goal is to be a great support Cleric for groups).

My current point values are such:

Vit: 5
Magic: 96
Strength: 24
Dex: 5

My Offensive Skills are such:
Plume shot - Lev5
Cyclone - Lev4

Passive Skills:
Vanguard Spirit - Lev5
Magic Shell - Lev3

My attacks always begin with Cyclone as this slows monster's advance. However, I still only get 3 shots in before the monster is next to me and takes 50% of my Health by the time it is dead.

Plume Shell takes too much magic to use regularly.

Genie skills cost too much to use regularly.

So, what should one do besides run or meditate all the time?
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    level your Ironheart blessing, cast it a few times on yourself when the mob gets close (1 - 3 casts should be enough) then continue killing the mob.

    Or you could try kiting the mob:

    Cyclone - run back a bit til cyclone isnt in cooldown - repeat.
  • Mendolin - Sanctuary
    Mendolin - Sanctuary Posts: 1,092 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I am having great difficulty engaging in solo battles even at Lev23. I have utilized the pure Cleric build: 4 in Magic; 1 in Strength every level (since my goal is to be a great support Cleric for groups).

    My current point values are such:

    Vit: 5
    Magic: 96
    Strength: 24
    Dex: 5

    My Offensive Skills are such:
    Plume shot - Lev5
    Cyclone - Lev4

    Passive Skills:
    Vanguard Spirit - Lev5
    Magic Shell - Lev3

    My attacks always begin with Cyclone as this slows monster's advance. However, I still only get 3 shots in before the monster is next to me and takes 50% of my Health by the time it is dead.

    Plume Shell takes too much magic to use regularly.

    Genie skills cost too much to use regularly.

    So, what should one do besides run or meditate all the time?

    heal? b:shutup
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I am having great difficulty engaging in solo battles even at Lev23. I have utilized the pure Cleric build: 4 in Magic; 1 in Strength every level (since my goal is to be a great support Cleric for groups).

    My current point values are such:

    Vit: 5
    Magic: 96
    Strength: 24
    Dex: 5

    My Offensive Skills are such:
    Plume shot - Lev5
    Cyclone - Lev4

    Passive Skills:
    Vanguard Spirit - Lev5
    Magic Shell - Lev3

    My attacks always begin with Cyclone as this slows monster's advance. However, I still only get 3 shots in before the monster is next to me and takes 50% of my Health by the time it is dead.

    Plume Shell takes too much magic to use regularly.

    Genie skills cost too much to use regularly.

    So, what should one do besides run or meditate all the time?

    Get in touch with a pot dealer.. All I gotta say... b:laugh
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  • ACLucius - Archosaur
    ACLucius - Archosaur Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Get in touch with a pot dealer.. All I gotta say... b:laugh

    b:laugh

    To OP: First, you don't need to put Str in every level. One point every two levels is more than enough for armor and weapons. You can put the other point you've been putting into Str in Mag or Vit.

    Also, the ultimate way to fight mobs currently is to get a +30 Atk level blessing through the Facebook offer. I just started a Cleric recently and it is currently 35, the blessing makes everything dies in 3-4 shots, it's just like when I played my Psychic.

    Anyways, if they ever take the blessing away, just follow what they said and do a lot of kiting or just heal before the mob reaches you.
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  • Grego - Raging Tide
    Grego - Raging Tide Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    More Vit please. Shard armor with HP and P.defense is a good idea too.
    The way to be a good Cleric is uneasy.
  • Charly - Heavens Tear
    Charly - Heavens Tear Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Like what people here have already said: Level Ironheart and heal, pots, HP and/or PDef shards in your armor, kiting, maybe a few points in Vit.

    I had my Cleric's Genie learn Earthquake. Works kinda like a nerfed Knockback arrow and can buy you a little bit more time before the mob can attack(for melee mobs, anyway). Need to time it, though, and be careful about when to use it. It's basically an AoE, so it will hit another mob if it's close enough, making it attack you as well, and then you'd in trouble. b:surrender
  • Sekzkilla - Raging Tide
    Sekzkilla - Raging Tide Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Some more information so you know where I am at:

    My skills are always maxed out for my level. IH Blessing, Plume Shot, Cyclone, even others are the max I can get for my level.

    I always level my Genie with me, so at level 24 my Genie is level 24.

    I already add shards to my equipment for more HP. Where do I find equipment that has 3 or more sockets? Currently, my equipment only has one each. Equipment from drops usually has 0 sockets.

    I refuse to waste points in HP. My philosophy is that the faster I kill, the less I need HP. A good offense is better than a good defense in this game. Besides, HP increases with each level, and, as with my higher level archer, I can kill before the monster touches me.

    I have added Earthquake to my Genie skills (I love it being an Archer). Now, I can kill without getting touched but this is expensive having to purchase chi stones. (And, yes, I know that Earthquake affects all mobs without 5-10 meters.)

    So, is there are particular Combo skill that more experienced Clerics have found is more effective in solo fighting?

    Also, can I expect that as I level a Cleric that I will have to join squads and merely heal everyone else while they do the killing?
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  • ILubby - Raging Tide
    ILubby - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Some more information so you know where I am at:

    My skills are always maxed out for my level. IH Blessing, Plume Shot, Cyclone, even others are the max I can get for my level.

    I always level my Genie with me, so at level 24 my Genie is level 24.

    I already add shards to my equipment for more HP. Where do I find equipment that has 3 or more sockets? Currently, my equipment only has one each. Equipment from drops usually has 0 sockets.

    You can add sockets by buying socket stones, if you can't afford that, maybe you can find good gear in cat shops. However, I don't remember I ever gemmed my gear at your level. I never healed as well.

    I refuse to waste points in HP. My philosophy is that the faster I kill, the less I need HP. A good offense is better than a good defense in this game. Besides, HP increases with each level, and, as with my higher level archer, I can kill before the monster touches me.

    Sounds good, but also a bit of vit will help! Especially if you like to solo bosses with your cleric. If you don't want to add vit points, try to find gear that has vit +

    I have added Earthquake to my Genie skills (I love it being an Archer). Now, I can kill without getting touched but this is expensive having to purchase chi stones. (And, yes, I know that Earthquake affects all mobs without 5-10 meters.)

    So, is there are particular Combo skill that more experienced Clerics have found is more effective in solo fighting?

    Also, can I expect that as I level a Cleric that I will have to join squads and merely heal everyone else while they do the killing?

    This is mainly what you will be doing, but if you want to DD, you have to decide when and be clever about it. You can for example (if you have a good tank) spam 2 or 3 IHs then attack the mob with the barb, you have to be careful though. Or when there is another cleric. As with bosses, you have to heal only, not only to keep the tank alive, but wasting your mana on heals and attacks? come on, save a few pots and leave it to the DDs

    I hope I answered what you wanted to know
  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    My skills are always maxed out for my level. IH Blessing, Plume Shot, Cyclone, even others are the max I can get for my level.

    If you have maxed your Vanguard Spirit and Magic Shell Buffs, remember use them always. They'll improve your phys and mag defense.
    Spirit's Gift will let you do more damage, and thus kill the mob faster. And Celestial Guardian Zeal accelerates your HP and MP regen.
    I always level my Genie with me, so at level 24 my Genie is level 24.

    Never used my genie till I reached lvl55 and began doing TTs. Even on that time I use it most for lure and Holy Path than to heal me. A genie is a good add-on, but I recommend don't be too dependant on him.
    I already add shards to my equipment for more HP. Where do I find equipment that has 3 or more sockets? Currently, my equipment only has one each. Equipment from drops usually has 0 sockets.

    As ILubby said, you could buy sockets stones for your gear. But as personal opinion, I think is a waste of money do that. lvl 30, 40 and 50 probably also, goes too fast to make any big coinage investment on gear worth it.

    I went thruought those level with all my gear crafted by myself, blue gear dropped from mobs and the ocasional 3-star from bh runs.

    I suggest not focus on sockets and shard only. try to get gear with Vitality+X, HP+XX and Phys Res.+XX, either by crafting them or from drops while killing mobs, and wear necklaces and belts that provide physical resistance, such as the Rhino Horn Necklace and the Peaceful Field Amulet

    Also Rank gear is a good and cheap option. from 10000 coins you can get a decent 3-star gear wih 3 sockets if you have Rank 1, and Rank 2 cost 40K if I remember right.

    Now, if you have the coins, do what ILubby said and by the gear from catshops or in the Auction house with the shards/stats you want, and if you are lucky and rich enough, buy some legendary (mold) gear for your level.
    So, is there are particular Combo skill that more experienced Clerics have found is more effective in solo fighting?

    The most effectives combo against melee mobs, I think are:

    *stand away from mob* Cyclone -> Plume Shot -> Ironheart Blessing - Cliclone -> Plume Shot -> Cyclone -> etc, etc.

    Cyclone -> *run away from enemy till Cyclone cools down* -> Cyclone -> etc, etc.
    Also, can I expect that as I level a Cleric that I will have to join squads and merely heal everyone else while they do the killing?

    In general, on squad based instances and boss fighting, you are expected to heal the tank and squad members and not going attacking every single mob you find on your way.

    Playing the full support role is, in my opninion, a good survival and MP management strategy for long runs, and helps you keep an eye on your squad to keep them alive. It's a win-win choice b:cute
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  • Mischele - Dreamweaver
    Mischele - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I normally don't squad unless someone asked me to :p
    and yea i died alot on lv 10-20.. But not anymoar :p

    2-3 IH , cyclone, 2x plumeshot (hold the button), and heal again i guess :P
    it sux but once u get the hang of it, you'll be pro b:chuckle

    in early level, second wind is really useful genie skill.
    Saves me from deaths most of the time.
    I replaced it with tree of protection tho :P
  • LaLeLoo - Sanctuary
    LaLeLoo - Sanctuary Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yeah lower levels suck as a cleric. Very squishy and die a lot. Higher levels it becomes much easier too the point where you can take on multiple mobs. That is, depending on the mob. I would pretty much recommend spam healing your self with Iron Heart and than attack mob. And before the mob gets to you heal yourself. Also pots are handy as well.
  • fulgida
    fulgida Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I would make sure that I always started attacking from just outside my maximum range -- I always like when I take a few steps towards my target before my first attack.

    Also, make sure that when you attack a land monster that it is level with you. Land monsters ignore height -- they can zoom up and down cliffs in a fraction of a second -- when they are moving, but your attacks do not. So if you attack from above or below you are giving the monster an advantage.

    Also, I like starting with plumeshot first, and then use great cyclone and then plumeshot. But no, you cry, that makes no sense! So, ok, plumeshot has a delay between when you cast it and when it damages your target, where great cyclone starts them running towards you right away -- they are slowed, but slowed and moving is still faster than not moving.

    Also, I like to be concious of my opponent's element. Great Cyclone does not do much damage on metal monsters and does even less on increased magic resistance monsters. Meanwhile, plume shot does not do much on increased defense monsters. When I fight monsters with only great cyclone, I make sure I run away from them while I am waiting to take my next shot.

    Also, 24 strength is enough for a level 40 character (your strength should be four plus half of your level).

    Also, if you are going to go with maximum magic, you must always have a good weapon and good magical rings, and you should have a sapphire in your weapon. Magic multiplies your equipment value (you get +1% base equipment damage added to your attack for each point in magic). Meanwhile, having enough health to survive to take another shot means you can do another 100% of your entire attack (including your skill value) because you live longer. If you do not have really good equipment you would do probably better with some vitality...

    Finally, when none of this works you should be fighting in a squad, with other people helping you.
  • TrueHarmony - Archosaur
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I know this is pretty old but ima say it anyway. Earthquake...get it, learn it, love it. If your for some reason to lazy to spam a few ih on your self before you attack just go with

    Cyclone
    >Plume shot
    > cyclone
    >earthquake
    > Plume shot...cyclone...doesnt really matter
    > dead mob

    Its cheap as hell to cast, and its a knock-back, get itXD srrsly
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