Fcc Myth - plz read if you do fcc

Bladecutter - Sanctuary

K, i have tested this (not with 1000000 samples, 1 sample clearly defined...) and, the conclusion is:

THERES NO SUCH THING AS 10 LVL EXP REDUCE

this is a myth made by ppl who fcc with 99+.

You will only Experience an exp reduce if you Fcc with ppl 10 lvls ABOVE 88 ( lvl 99 or more) and, even then, the exp reduce is about 5 or 10% which with hyper xp becomes not much.

this was tested with a group of lvl 100 + 100 + 84+ 88+ 99 + 94. and with other group of similar range. everybody reported to have the same xp gain (lets call it Xp2). when i was 98 in every squad there were no 99s i had the same xp gain (lets call it Xp1) but when i turned 99 i noticed no matter the squads i always have Xp2

again: if youre lvl 98, you can fcc with a lvl 78 and you will face no exp reduce (of course 77- will have a change because of course the lvl is too low and the same rule applys)

Thx for reading

Untamedchaos - Sanctuary

This actually sounds about right. I've done 50-60 frosts, and the exp was always relatively similar unless we got desperate and added a 99 or 100 to the squad.

Bladecutter - Sanctuary

Untamedchaos - Sanctuary wrote: »

This actually sounds about right. I've done 50-60 frosts, and the exp was always relatively similar unless we got desperate and added a 99 or 100 to the squad.

point the fact - checked

have some1 agree with it - checked

now to get ppl to read it and asimilate it =S

Lylfo - Dreamweaver

this applies more to the heads because the level of the heads is 88, i can confirm this as well and note that the exp reduced from going to lvl 98 to lvl 99 is quite a big amount(like 1/4 lesser)

i cannot confirm however, that bringing a lvl 78 with a lvl 98 would not decrease exp on both sides. (not to mention the lvl 78 would most liekly be piggybacking on the lvl 98 and will not be able to contribute much)

Bladecutter - Sanctuary

Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

this applies more to the heads because the level of the heads is 88, i can confirm this as well and note that the exp reduced from going to lvl 98 to lvl 99 is quite a big amount(like 1/4 lesser)

i cannot confirm however, that bringing a lvl 78 with a lvl 98 would not decrease exp on both sides. (not to mention the lvl 78 would most liekly be piggybacking on the lvl 98 and will not be able to contribute much)

almost everything in fcc is 88 =S.. yeah, is a big amount when you hyper (you have X12 the usual reduction so its noticiable xD) is a 5k xp reduction in heads, up to 10k xp reduction in dragons, 300 in harpys (this last one without hypers) something like this.

nnow, about the lvl 78 with the lvl 98, i havent tested this for obvious reasons but both should get about the same xp.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Thought this was common knowledge.

Bladecutter - Sanctuary

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Thought this was common knowledge.

common knowledge is a myth sometimes m8

PD: i need to stop posting here every 5 seconds

Asheera - Raging Tide

There is nerf for every level difference people have over 88

At 95 when I was highest in squad I got ~17k per head. With a 96 in squad it was ~16k, ~15k with 97 and ~11k with a 99 (never was with an 100)

I don't care what ppl say that "there is no significant exp nerf" or whatever... there IS a nerf, it is small and some people don't care, but there is. Ofc I do run with higher levels but I prefer being the highest, that's all.


And obviously, only LOWER levels will have nerf, highest level isn't affected by others in squad.

Bladecutter - Sanctuary

Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »

There is nerf for every level difference people have over 88

At 95 when I was highest in squad I got ~17k per head. With a 96 in squad it was ~16k, ~15k with 97 and ~11k with a 99 (never was with an 100)

I don't care what ppl say that "there is no significant exp nerf" or whatever... there IS a nerf, it is small and some people don't care, but there is. Ofc I do run with higher levels but I prefer being the highest, that's all.


And obviously, only LOWER levels will have nerf, highest level isn't affected by others in squad.

the rest is right, but the bold part is lie, as a 99 i asked every1 in squad, and they were getting EXACTLY the same xp i was getting. just ppl never ask their squads

the nerf is there because the higher the lvl the lower xp the squad gets but every1 in squad receives the same xp

PD: the xp is decided by lvls in squad, but, th emain subject remains, you are not gonna get less xp just cus theres 10 lvl difference in squad, youre gonna get less on more xp depending on higher lvl on your squad, and squad is always getting the same xp

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »

And obviously, only LOWER levels will have nerf, highest level isn't affected by others in squad.

pretty much the same in another game i played =O not surprising it applies to pwi too

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Bladecutter - Sanctuary wrote: »

the rest is right, but the bold part is lie, as a 99 i asked every1 in squad, and they were getting EXACTLY the same xp i was getting. just ppl never ask their squads

the nerf is there because the higher the lvl the lower xp the squad gets but every1 in squad receives the same xp

PD: the xp is decided by lvls in squad, but, th emain subject remains, you are not gonna get less xp just cus theres 10 lvl difference in squad, youre gonna get less on more xp depending on higher lvl on your squad, and squad is always getting the same xp

Well yea. If a 88 runs with a 99 to him the XP will be nerfed but to the 99 I wont be because that's what the 99 is used to, while the 88 is used to more XP. He doesn't get less XP than the 99, but he gets less than he could.

Asheera - Raging Tide

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well yea. If a 88 runs with a 99 to him the XP will be nerfed but to the 99 I wont be because that's what the 99 is used to, while the 88 is used to more XP. He doesn't get less XP than the 99, but he gets less than he could.

This is what I meant.

Yes 88 will get same xp as 99 but if that 99 isn't in party, 88 would get much more xp. This is what I meant by nerf, not that they get less than the 99.

Lu$t - Sanctuary

I realized this too. One squad was all 96 and got less exp then when we took a 88. It's something about average squad level being closer to mob level(in this case mostly 88) giving slightly different amounts of exp. This does however make people more willing to start fccing earlier (i myself starting at 78) and hopefully breed better players. Glad to see others notice the non-existent 10 rule also.

sneakiest

Bladecutter - Sanctuary wrote: »

almost everything in fcc is 88 =S.. yeah, is a big amount when you hyper (you have X12 the usual reduction so its noticiable xD) is a 5k xp reduction in heads, up to 10k xp reduction in dragons, 300 in harpys (this last one without hypers) something like this.

nnow, about the lvl 78 with the lvl 98, i havent tested this for obvious reasons but both should get about the same xp.

I have had a 76 cleric and a 93 Sin in FC. (Largest level range for squad in the run) At heads Sin was getting 18k per head, the cleric was getting 16k (with hypers)........... so not much loss at all, nothing to be worried about anyway.

WnbTank - Archosaur

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well yea. If a 88 runs with a 99 to him the XP will be nerfed but to the 99 I wont be because that's what the 99 is used to, while the 88 is used to more XP. He doesn't get less XP than the 99, but he gets less than he could.

Actually lowbie in squad nerfs your xp, I was highest in squad and we had some 7x squad(over 20 lvls lower than me), I got ~7k per head =/.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/drop

first chart


and if drop rate is determinated by higest lvl in squad then it apply to exp rate i suppose