tactics vs sins

Magicgabe - Lost City
Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
edited June 2010 in Cleric
How do clerics kill sins?

problems I've encountered when fighting my friend who is 10 lvls lower than me:

- stealth
- stuns
- deaden nerves
- chi regen

for now, I can IH away most of the damage and tank most of the damage till I'm out of stun
but I probably couldn't do that against 3spark and heavy cs gear( ie +10 ,5aps). Any suggestions for killing sins?
and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
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  • Magiere - Dreamweaver
    Magiere - Dreamweaver Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Magicgabe - Lost City wrote: »
    How do clerics kill sins?

    problems I've encountered when fighting my friend who is 10 lvls lower than me:

    - stealth
    - stuns
    - deaden nerves
    - chi regen

    for now, I can IH away most of the damage and tank most of the damage till I'm out of stun
    but I probably couldn't do that against 3spark and heavy cs gear( ie +10 ,5aps). Any suggestions for killing sins?

    Fortify + Ironguard Powder
    or
    Absolute domain and then directly pop Ironguard powder
    or
    Raising the white flag and hope his conscience pumps in for killing a defenseless goose and he fly's off.
    Originally written by Satchiko to me regarding old spice commercial :
    Hello Perfect World. Look at your cleric, now back to me, now back to your cleric, now back to me. Sadly it isn't me. But if you stopped being a noob and started wearing sunglasses you could act like you're me. Look down, back up, where are you? You're on Dreamweaver with the cleric your cleric could be like. What's in your hand, back at me. It's an inventory filled with the gear you want. Look again, the gear is now diamonds. Anything is possible with sunglasses. I'm flying on starter wings.
  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Magiere - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Raising the white flag and hope his conscience pumps in for killing a defenseless goose and he fly's off.

    This.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    9x Demon Cleric
  • Qingzi - Harshlands
    Qingzi - Harshlands Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I think it'll be easier to fight them now since I read in their forum that when they use 3-spark, they pop out of stealth.

    And I won't tell you any tactics to use since I've never PvPd with a cleric (highest I got was lvl16b:victory). You have to figure those out yourself.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Qingzi - Harshlands wrote: »
    I think it'll be easier to fight them now since I read in their forum that when they use 3-spark, they pop out of stealth.

    And I won't tell you any tactics to use since I've never PvPd with a cleric (highest I got was lvl16b:victory). You have to figure those out yourself.

    They can still single and double spark in stealth >.>

    And at this point the second I see the unstealthing animation I just say "eff it" and get a drink or something, because I really don't care to fight a pointless battle. They'll either kill me or stealth away as I'm about to kill them.

    The messed up part about sins? An 8x sin can do pretty well against me because of the array of buffs they have, and at level 94 I can take on BMs, Barbs, and Archers higher level than me and win. Yeah.. an 8x doing as well as high 9x characters and a few 10x, nope I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all.

    Of course.. that doesn't mean I don't enjoy when a few of them, thinking they're smart, are hiding then when I Tempest a group of people they get one shot. That always brightens my dayb:laugh
  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I've never really encountered double sparks to be a problem. They are tankable. Its triple spark that really scares me.

    another problem I encountered: immunity to sleep.

    the only thing I've been able to figure out is

    sin unstealths->stay stunned and tank damage -> plumeshell-> wellspring

    at this point it seems that sins just force stealth and I wait another 2-3minutes to get hit again. this process goes on and on till I mess up or one of us gives up.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
  • Shealu - Heavens Tear
    Shealu - Heavens Tear Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Magicgabe - Lost City wrote: »
    I've never really encountered double sparks to be a problem. They are tankable. Its triple spark that really scares me.

    another problem I encountered: immunity to sleep.

    the only thing I've been able to figure out is

    sin unstealths->stay stunned and tank damage -> plumeshell-> wellspring

    at this point it seems that sins just force stealth and I wait another 2-3minutes to get hit again. this process goes on and on till I mess up or one of us gives up.

    Or till 3ple spark and you don t survive step 2 lol
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    as for the immunity to sleep thingy, learn to read their movement buff icon(its the same as the bm's and barb's too)- it only lasts for like 10 sec and it costs 1 spark to use, something that will **** up most of their combo seeing how their skills are so chi dependent.

    that will help you not to waste your sleep.
    Thanks Chillum for the nice Sig.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • fulgida
    fulgida Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Magicgabe - Lost City wrote: »
    sin unstealths->stay stunned and tank damage -> plumeshell-> wellspring

    If you use your long channeling skills against the assassin, and they stealth, you will bring them back out of stealth and their combat stealth skill will be on a timer. They can maybe still teleport to a monster, but if you can holy path you can keep up with them.

    Anyways, when you are getting near the point where you think they might give up, you might try that. There are some subtleties here (like their channeling time on their skills) but I am still learning those, and can not make any good recommendations yet.
  • Rosey_ - Lost City
    Rosey_ - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ONly thing I hate is the stun lock. Most sins are dumb and dont know to stun lock. With that stun lock they get 18 secs with out being touched. I would charms plume shell event pots and pvp pots in my opinion
  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I can confirm that at least in duels sins can not be knocked out of stealth by long channeling skills. I tested this yesterday. However, you can hit a sin in stealth when you use long channel skills. I managed to 1-shot a sin yesterday this way.

    I've come up w. two other hypothesis:

    Qi Manipulation - cooldown 1 second, drains app. 1.5k mp over 15 seconds; could be spammed if sleep is pulled off. Over 10 second or so you can drain more than 1 event pot can replenish. Works well in theory might not be easy in practice.

    Standing near a mob and using sirens kiss as soon as sins jumps back into stealth. My BM friend already using something like this. This also has the advantage of freezing a sin in place while his jumps and stuns are in cooldown.
    so something like this 3 spark->wield thunder->sirens kiss->cyclone.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.

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