About Frostblade

Vorhs - Lost City

Of course, this skill adds a very very little damage, wich is even smaller if confronted to players water reistances.

So the final meaning of this skill is to help out finishing instances bosses a very bit faster if you got many physical classes in squad, and it works better with fast-hitters, like fist bms, sins and archers.

In pvp or pve versus mobs it has nearly no effect.

EDIT:

i tried in a duel with a barb: i had no equip on me so i had 117 res to water (2% reduction)

with expel on me, the barb dealt 85 EXACT damage in a row... this will make the wide physical attack range thory to fall down =( cause it shouldnt be a static value.

whats more, i calculated the 30% of barb's attack power from equip, and its 387, not 85

this is a disaster T.T till i calculated it on mobs, my theory worked well, in duels it seems not to work.

EDIT OVER EDIT:

I just discovered that there's something like 75% dmg reduction in pvp overall, so that 85 dmg instead of 387 is justyfied. This makes this skill however even less useful in pvp.

Borsuc - Raging Tide

At lvl100 you JUST discovered in PvP there's 1/4 damage done? b:shocked

And how does it make it "even more useless"? All damage gets divided by 4, not just frostblade's.

Shadowvzs - Lost City

Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »

At lvl100 you JUST discovered in PvP there's 1/4 damage done? b:shocked

And how does it make it "even more useless"? All damage gets divided by 4, not just frostblade's.

lets add the gs,hf+e.posion increase every dmg also (or any att lv pill,skill,stone etc)

Vorhs - Lost City

Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »

At lvl100 you JUST discovered in PvP there's 1/4 damage done? b:shocked

And how does it make it "even more useless"? All damage gets divided by 4, not just frostblade's.

yea that "even more useless" was just a little comment for what i just discovered

and... yes i just discovered that in pvp there's such a 75% reduction o.o i never fought against naked ppl, i always thought that if i dealt that low dmg was cause of their resistances

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver

The point is to max it out it still requires some spirit and coins so why should i spend these things for a buff which is hardly noticeable. I know in the endgame the people have tons of spirit to spare so they just max out all of their skills even if the reward is just a tiny effect with a nice looking bling bling on the weapon.

Its somehow sad to see that the wizards only partyskill doesnt really pay off :-/

Vorhs - Lost City

It requires a small amount of money/spirit to level it up to 10.

And if you are demon, u get it 50% gear dmg instead of 30%, wich is a quite good increase.

Imho, its worth it... this skill's help in party is nearly zero, but the cost is quite low too.

Obviously i'd rather have a more useful skill @ higher price than this frostblade >.>

I once suggested this skill, as in substitution of some useless wizard skills (like manifest virtue, wich is 100% useless as a lv100 skill)

Name: Soul Infuse

Mana 1000
Channel 10 seconds
Cast 1 second
Cooldown 1 hour
Duration 1 hour
Requires 1 spark

Its a buff castable on self or on others. Buffed target can auto-resurrect with 50% of normal exp loss and 50% mana/health.


But of course its a very long matter to change skills, they must first meet with the chinese version of PWI developers, then discuss, then try it, then implement it. They will never implement this skill i think, but it would be great if they will. And it will give us wizards more reputation in parties: could be helpful to cast it on clerics during istances.

Legerity - Sanctuary

Here's a thread that may interest others. I postulate along with other Archers that Blazing Arrows behaves the same for Frostblade.

Conclusions drawn from Asterelle's experiments:

1) All skills receive fire damage except for Winged Pledge
2) The fire damage added is a fixed value equal independent of skill damage
3) Fire Damage = Average Damage from weapon only * Blazing Arrow %
4) Physical and magical resistance amount is exactly rounded to the nearest percentage

In the case of Frostblade, my assumptions are:

1) Frostblade works on every skill of Archers except Winged Pledge. This also is consistent with the "resist!" popups when casting FB on an Archer who is barraging on a water immune monster.
2) The water damage added is a fixed value independent of skill damage.
3) Water Damage = Average Damage from weapon ONLY * FB percentage
4) Same as above.

One thing I might like to add is - bare fists do not gain the Blazing Arrows buff because there is NO weapon. This may also be the same for Frostblade, where if the person is to punch bare fisted, there would be NO Frostblade buff. The damage gain does not include rings or arrows or any +damage mods. It is only whatever is stated on the weapon (+damage mods on the actual weapon are included).

Adroit - Lost City

Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »

Here's a thread that may interest others. I postulate along with other Archers that Blazing Arrows behaves the same for Frostblade.

Conclusions drawn from Asterelle's experiments:

1) All skills receive fire damage except for Winged Pledge
2) The fire damage added is a fixed value equal independent of skill damage
3) Fire Damage = Average Damage from weapon only * Blazing Arrow %
4) Physical and magical resistance amount is exactly rounded to the nearest percentage

In the case of Frostblade, my assumptions are:

1) Frostblade works on every skill of Archers except Winged Pledge. This also is consistent with the "resist!" popups when casting FB on an Archer who is barraging on a water immune monster.
2) The water damage added is a fixed value independent of skill damage.
3) Water Damage = Average Damage from weapon ONLY * FB percentage
4) Same as above.

One thing I might like to add is - bare fists do not gain the Blazing Arrows buff because there is NO weapon. This may also be the same for Frostblade, where if the person is to punch bare fisted, there would be NO Frostblade buff. The damage gain does not include rings or arrows or any +damage mods. It is only whatever is stated on the weapon (+damage mods on the actual weapon are included).

great thread :O I'm gonna see if frostblade adds damage to wizard's skills as well xD (not gonna be as in depth... but maybe have someone fire immune and use pyrogram with frostblade on)

MagicHamsta - Lost City

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

great thread :O I'm gonna see if frostblade adds damage to wizard's skills as well xD (not gonna be as in depth... but maybe have someone fire immune and use pyrogram with frostblade on)

Well, me don't see the word "Resist" when me shoot pyrogram, with frostblade cast on meself, on water immune bosses/mobs.
b:surrender

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

Well, me don't see the word "Resist" when me shoot pyrogram, with frostblade cast on meself, on water immune bosses/mobs.
b:surrender

the frostblade buff only increases the dmg of normal attacks which in my point of view means physical attacks. So regardless of which wiz skill you use it is still a "skill" and not "normal attack". Of course you can hit with your magic sword for physical dmg then the buff should work but i doubt you want to melee a mob just to have that tiny little effect ^^

Adroit - Lost City

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

the frostblade buff only increases the dmg of normal attacks which in my point of view means physical attacks. So regardless of which wiz skill you use it is still a "skill" and not "normal attack". Of course you can hit with your magic sword for physical dmg then the buff should work but i doubt you want to melee a mob just to have that tiny little effect ^^

Well according to the thread about archer's fire buff, it did affect their magic skills (not just shooting arrows)

fulgida

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

Well according to the thread about archer's fire buff, it did affect their magic skills (not just shooting arrows)

Of course, archer attacks are based on their physical attack, most of them have a base magic attack of 1 or 2. Still, experiments are good, and sometimes reveal surprising things.

Adroit - Lost City

didn't really expect any results, but frostblade doesn't work with d.pyro

HexOmega - Dreamweaver

we have to accept the sad truth ... :P