Cultivation?

kerenta

Hello, I have a lvl 56 Veno. I am following a good guide and according to the guide, I already have all the skills I need. Can I skip cultivation quests? I don't want to do them anymore, FBs and all these bosses make me frustrated... And no one helps me anyways. =/ Do I need cultivation for anything else or only for skills? What if I don't want to cultivate anymore? Will that make me a fail Veno at higher lvls? I'm 100% PVE player. Thanks in advance!

RedsRose - Lost City

Without doing your cultivation, you cannot get new skills.

^ Simple answer

kerenta

As I said, I already have the skills I need. b:surrender That's why I'm asking.

RedsRose - Lost City

kerenta wrote: »

As I said, I already have the skills I need. b:surrender That's why I'm asking.

At level 56...no you don't.

But go ahead...don't do it, your gameplay.

Vixennia - Raging Tide

If you are on Raging Tide server I'd be happy to help you with your bosses.

And at level 56 there are definitely skills you havent been able to get yet. I mean you dont even get your second spark until after the level 59 culti is done. And you don't get aware of transcendence which is what is required to get skills like parasitic nova.

But if you think you don't need any of the skills that are available at later levels and don't care about more than one spark then you don't necessarily need to do them.

Experience gain from them is fairly nice though I have to say.

kerenta

I just wanted to ask for advice. I do have all skills the guide recommends, other skills are listed as optional. Plus as I said, no one helps me, and I hate asking for help. I cannot waste coins on teleacoustics, sadly. I cannot spend real money on this game because I live in a small poor country. My faction was too silent, so I quitted. Even if I wanted to do cultivation, I couldn't do them because no one helps me. So yeah, I don't care anymore.

Edit:
@Vix - I see, thank you. Actually, people were kind of rude to me in previous MMOs, so I don't trust anyone anymore. I am an only child, grew up with my mother only, my English is bad, and all these things make me shy, even in real life... I always try to open up to people and fit in, because I know I should play with others in MMOs... but it's hard... it makes me very frustrated... Thanks anyways. I'll try my best to change and gain courage so I can ask for help in-game.

LenieClarke - Heavens Tear

teleacoustics are optional, as far as i can tell. asking for help might not be, though, and i understand feeling uncomfortable with it; working with a faction helps me a bit --- i tend to try to offer help to faction mates, and even ask if anybody needs help i can give, a few times before asking for FB help in faction chat.

faction chat is helpful and often fun; even local (white text) chat can be interesting and sometimes helpful. but of what i see in worldchat, i haven't been impressed. mostly offers to buy and sell stuff i can't afford, or repeated (over hours, sometimes) requests for help with the same one high-level dungeon by the same people, over and over. (which always makes me wonder why nobody's offering to help those particular people...) i tend to keep worldchat turned off, myself.

as for getting a faction, well, on heaven's tear it seems hard to NOT get a faction... all my chars have got repeated random invites, and i've got most of them settled in with active, fun players by now. random squad invites by people grinding in the same general area as me are a daily thing, and those too can lead to conversation and friendship; you might be able to find help through such.

FWIW, your English skills seem fine to me. i know instant-message chatting is different from composing a reply on a forum like this, but then again, most sensible people are more forgiving of language mistakes in instant media like that as well. i've run into native speakers with worse English than what you've produced here.

Vixennia - Raging Tide

As a second comment, if you are playing strictly PVE then you will probably be fine with the skills that you have if you have everything the guide you are using says to use. If the guide has served you well so far then I'd keep following it.

Cultis and FBs are not necessary for just leveling up. You can definitely do those just through quests and grinding. I can tell you it will be a longer road unless you can get your hands on oracles or hyper exp stones. Those tend to require real money and I feel they take away from the point of the game but to each his/her own right?

Good luck! And I hope you find yourself some friends in the game you can have fun with and turn to for assistance now and then! Again if you are on the Raging Tide server look me up! I would love to help you out and my entire faction is the same. We do a lot of things together .

And I agree with above poster that your English seems basically perfect to me especially compared to those people who post on here and I can't even figure out what they were trying to say b:puzzled

kerenta

Exactly, it is easy in the forum where I have time to think what to write. But when I have to answer immediately, I freeze up and want to hide in the nearest bush. x.x My spelling is kind of good, that's why you think my English is perfect... but I fail at grammar, lol.

Anyways, thanks for the help again. I play on Sanctuary and I had a lvl 92 BM friend I met on my first day, he was always very kind and he helped me with cultivation so far, but I haven't seen him in weeks... u.u I think he quitted. I'll try to find a European faction, I always see people recruiting on world chat. Everything is easier if I know people.

ugysekell

LMAO this thread proves that high lvl ppl are egotist and unhelpful they just think they are soooo effing smart... look at the lvl101 soulless comment and the 2 helpful people's (Lenie and Vixen). pfffff.... -_- so typical.

@OP - BTW if you outlvl your FBs, you might be able to solo thm later (at least up to 59 for 2 sparks) with a good tanker pet and stronger pet heal, or if you find a faction you can always ask em to do FBs later. not necessary to do culti for PVE but you can get some kickass demon / sage skills at 89. and you should have enough coins by then if you grind a lot. and I used to be shy too but I found good friends and gained lots of confidence and now I'm ready to punch everyone in da face. :P Good luck, have fun and ignore rude people because they will always be there to hurt your feelings. I know I was oversensitive too and used to cry about online ***** but you know what, don't let them know you're sad. Just ignore them and walk away proudly and try to get over it fast. You should always relax in games, it's not good if you feel sad or frustrated.

Amarante - Raging Tide

Just do your cultivation quests

You're at the point where they get really annoying (Seeing as how the 59 cultivation calls for 6 bosses), but the cultivation quests do get easier after that. You'll want bramble hood (A useful lv59 protection skill for tight situations) and the extra 100 chi that's added on to your existing chi bar is nice.

Also, by making sure to do your 59 cultivation quests, you'll be able to do 69 cultivation (No new skills, besides a large chunk of sp), 79 cultivation (Two new skills, one of them being Feral Concentration. Hey, 10 seconds of invincibility sure is nice), and 89 cultivation for your sage/demon skills as well as access to Lothranis and Momaganon.

Hang in there! If you're ever on RT server, you can always ask me for help

Vitenka - Dreamweaver

Well, if you're a venomancer then you can solo most of your cultivation chain. Otherwise... Well, ok, I guess you can get along with just your starter skills. (Lacking extra chi isn't going to matter to you if you don't have the later chi-expensive skills)

But you're painting yourself into a corner - by rejecting playing with other people, you will limit your character somewhat - and that will later limit your ability to play with other people (because they will, quite probably, point at you and laugh and then kick you out of the squad)

I'm always happy to squash cultivation if I'm in the area.

But it is pretty odd to play a multiplayer game, solo. There's more than a few mmo-style single player games, and they're generally better at it.

Yindra - Sanctuary

ugysekell wrote: »

@OP - BTW if you outlvl your FBs, you might be able to solo thm later (at least up to 59 for 2 sparks) with a good tanker pet and stronger pet heal, or

I don't think 59 is possible (that's Valley of Disaster, right?), until possibly very late in the game. Unless we are talking Hercules here.

I haven't tried to find whether they have AoEs (depends on range, could be dangerous) or Buffs (beefs up damage even more), but those deal raw damage in the 2348 - 5477 range (these numbers are from "Raving Drake Brute", but the others are similar). The last bosses I did at lvl 73 were some cultivation bosses that did damage around the 1453 - 3390 range (numbers from "Omipotent Drake", no AoEs or buffs to worry about). Those worked out well enough, although they required constant healspamming and did get the pet into the red zone occasionally, which indicates they are about as high as I can go. Any higher and the pet will "occasionally" go below the red zone, which causes a quick yet painful teleport back to town first time it happens.
I'm still expecting to be able to do the next Cultivation boss ("Luminoc Architect", moderate damage increase to 1600 - 3733, buffs/AoE unknown; there's probably an increase in level too, so raw damage numbers aren't the only thing to look at) in a few levels, possibly 83, if I get that far. Next would be the aforementioned Valley bosses, and their damage output isn't anything a Magmite could handle for a long time.

In terms of FBs I still haven't done 39 and 49 anyway, so no surprise about the 59 being insane to solo :-) And it keeps going up --- the first(?) boss in Wraithgate (FB69?) deals 2577 - 6012, buffs/AoE unknown. I don't have any quests for the next dungeon yet :-)

At least for a Venomancer without Hercules, soloing isn't really an option.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver

59 is disaster, yes - and the bosses therein have only normal physical and magical attacks. (Well, drake has a burn DoT as his magical attack)

No AoE. No Buff. Nothing particularly dangerous at all.

You can herc it around the level you get it, and another magic-tank or ranged-pet can do it by your mid 7x.
Edit: Clerics can do well solo in there, too - lots of mdef, ranged attacks to keep the boss from closing to melee and purify to remove the fire. Easily cleric-tankable in your 70s.

Sixty-nine you're right, no way you can solo the main bosses in that - but I'm pretty sure that you can do your cultivation from there. (Though not the OHT chain, the big bosses are on that)

Amarante - Raging Tide

Yindra, you are certainly correct on soloing 59. Just note however that those bosses have different attribute that correspond with their respective elemental valleys. Zimo has metal magic and physical damage, Ofotis has physical damage(it looks like poison but it's not), Drake burns and deals physical pain, Quanji utilizes water magic and physical, and Brute is heavy physical with bleed effects.

On Luminoc, solo'ing is possible, but you need a bit of movement. He is range based. From far away his attacks are strong, but close up his damage is halved. No effects. Since range-based mobs run away, you'll need to play tag with him to have your pet get close to him without running away. Note, ranged mobs run away from close contact people/pets twice before they stop moving.

fb69 Wraithgate is near impossible to solo the entire thing. Pyrosteosis is the easiest, lowest damage and utilizes strong magic attacks, but does not fire deadly skills. He could be solo'ed, and i stress, "could." Next up in difficulty is Gaurnob, who often uses AoE magic attacks, physical attacks, and a damage increasing debuff. Polearm is the steroid version of Gaurnob. His attacks are much stronger, both AoE and close combat ones. The attribute that is particularly difficult about him is that his debuff reduces your defences and has another debuff similar to pierce armor, which comes as a very unwelcome flying magic battleaxe. Tanks with over 10k Hp can get 2 shot and unless his cleric stays on the purify, Polearm often can cause a spectacular squad squish. Unless you can purify your pet every few seconds, and your pet has more Hp and physical defence than barbarians, Polearm is not soloable (though I have seen a level 100 Assassin with full r8/Nirvana/24 vit stones tank, and subsequently rip Polearm to pieces in less than a minute."

Vitenka - Dreamweaver

Note: Pyro will use a melee attack, but favours using a really really crappy burn. I'm talking not even as much damage as drake from 59. Stay at range and you'll have no trouble with him.

Guar is... theoretically possible to herc tank if you are either very high level or play ping-pong between two hercs (there's a video of that somewhere)
So it might just be possible with a non-herc.

Pole - not a chance. Pets cannot be purified.
Once that axe lands, even a herc is dead.

Wraithgate is, basically, horrible for Veno's. It gets a lot better when you get to 79 though.