Plans for lvl 80 (6 lvls from it)

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Ok, well....PWI Calc isn't letting me do anything on it, so i'm unable to show you guys the gear i'd wear, but i can at least list them.



Chest/Legs/Feet - TT 80 Gold
Wristguard - Bracers of Blood Moon
Rings - N/A (Unsure of what to add here currently)
Cape - Chief of Tarturan (idk for sure if that's how it's spelled)
Necklace - N/A (same as ring)
Belt - N/A (same as ring)
Weapon - Either Darkflash (at +6) or TT 80 fist/***instant fist
Tome - N/A (Unsure of what would be best for this lvl)




All TT is being farmed, Wristsguard is already gained, Weapon (if darkflash) is obtained/(other two) not obtained, Cape is yet to be gotten (trying to find a price I can afford).



So, to all of the BM's who rank lvl 80 and above, what would you switch or use to fill in the blanks?


Note: No gems are currently added because not at lvl 80 yet.

Kristoph - Lost City

Rings - lv77 mold rings, misty forest or w/e. Accuracy, HP and a nice amount of patk
Necklace - lv69 mold necklace
Belt - anything, oht belt, 3 star lv75 belt, hh70 gold belt, whatever
Fist - get hh80 gold fists or 3 star lv73/78 with -0.05 interval
Tome - whatever you can afford, get a 7 str 6 vit tome or something

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Kristoph:

Rings - Alright, i figured it would be something like that as the best option.

Necklace - cool, now i gotta find tha mold xD

Belt - Alright, i'll see what I can find ^^

Fist - Are you sure? I mean the -.05 is nice (already got -.1 so it would be -.15), but comapring the dmg from refine to refine having the same wristguard and gear, the Darkflash is better in DPS. by about 1 (+4 refine), up to +55 (+7 refine, or around there).

Tome - alright. thnx ^^

Kristoph - Lost City

The +patk and +crit on the hh80 gold along with the higher base patk are going to mean your damage will catch up to a dark flash really easily.

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Kristoph: Ah, cool. Just wanted to make sure my DPS wouldn't be gimped with it, thnx ^.^

Michael_Dark - Lost City

I'd go with hh 80 boots, stick with your bracers, proud plate of corsair and cuisses of sea captian till you're 90. Alternatively, get 3* wrists/boots with full resists... save as much coin as you can for when you start needing really expensive shards and gear.

Pair of mistys or replace one with the attendance ring. Equine talisman for neck, pretty much whatever you can get for a belt.

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Michael_dark: How would the proud plate of corsair and cuisses of sea captain work in a full PvP environment?


(PvP is going on for the rest of the game play when i hit 80)

Michael_Dark - Lost City

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Michael_dark: How would the proud plate of corsair and cuisses of sea captain work in a full PvP environment?

You'd be hard pressed to notice any real difference except for how much money you would save. It shouldn't be very hard to find them already sharded and refined for relatively cheap.

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

hm....Well i inputed all the data from the two sets into the PWI Calc. Here are the differences I noticed after everything was done.


Notes: All gear that is possible to refine (not sure of perfect attendance ring, so it's unrefined in both sets)) is +5 in both sets.
Weapon is +7, w/ 1 beautiful garnet and 1 flawless garnet in both sets.


So here are the stats:

Set 1: (http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=7fa5e53ede017f5e)

W/ gear
Str: 258
Vit: 28
Mag: 8
Dex: 174

unallocated points: 2 (from stat reset on mage)

w/o Gear
Str: 240
Vit: 5
Mag: 3
Dex: 165

unallocated points: 2 (from stat reset on mage)


Set 2: (http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=657255d796dd0c9b)

W/ Gear
Str: 259
Vit: 40
Mag: 3
Dex: 169

unallocated points: 2 (from restat on mage)

w/o Gear
Str: 240
Vit: 5
Mag: 3
Dex: 165

unallocated points: 2 (from restat on mage)


As you can see in the stats, the difference would be the 1 point in str, the 12 in vit, the 5 in mag, and the 5 in dex.



Now, moving onto Statistics:

Set 1:

Physical Atk: 5032 - 5271
Magic Atk: 1 - 1
Critical Hit: 12%
Attack Rate: 1.67/sec
Accuracy: 2610
Evasion: 2024
Attack/Defense lvl: 0
Physical Def: 2896
Element Res: 5885


Set 2:

Physical Atk: 2049 - 5845
Magic Atk: 1 - 1
Critical Hit: 12%
Attack Rate: 1.67/sec
Accuracy: 2535
Evasion: 1864
Speed: 5.0 m/s
Attack/Defense lvl: 0
Physical Def: 3068
Element Res: 5942


These statistic's are with the buffs (both sets have the same buffs):

lvl 10 Aura of the Golden Bell
lvl 10 Alter Marrow Magical
lvl 10 Fist Mastery
Spark Burst+



So, statistic wise, the main difference seems to be the physical attk, physical def, and element res. (Those would be the most important, the others are the Accuracy, Evasion, and attk/sec (which the first set didn't show because the ***Instant Strike fist, -.05 interval doesn't seem to work on the calc), and the speed).






So, I can say, yes I will agree with you, Michael_dark, that I would be slightly hardpressed to notice the difference but, at the same time when I view it via the calc that has been made for PWI, i can easily tell where the power of the two sets differenicate.

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

hm....Well i inputed all the data from the two sets into the PWI Calc. Here are the differences I noticed after everything was done.


Notes: All gear that is possible to refine (not sure of perfect attendance ring, so it's unrefined in both sets)) is +5 in both sets.
Weapon is +7, w/ 1 beautiful garnet and 1 flawless garnet in both sets.


So here are the stats:

Set 1: (http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=7fa5e53ede017f5e)

W/ gear
Str: 258
Vit: 28
Mag: 8
Dex: 174

unallocated points: 2 (from stat reset on mage)

w/o Gear
Str: 240
Vit: 5
Mag: 3
Dex: 165

unallocated points: 2 (from stat reset on mage)


Set 2: (http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=657255d796dd0c9b)

W/ Gear
Str: 259
Vit: 40
Mag: 3
Dex: 169

unallocated points: 2 (from restat on mage)

w/o Gear
Str: 240
Vit: 5
Mag: 3
Dex: 165

unallocated points: 2 (from restat on mage)


As you can see in the stats, the difference would be the 1 point in str, the 12 in vit, the 5 in mag, and the 5 in dex.



Now, moving onto Statistics:

Set 1:

Physical Atk: 5032 - 5271
Magic Atk: 1 - 1
Critical Hit: 12%
Attack Rate: 1.67/sec
Accuracy: 2610
Evasion: 2024
Attack/Defense lvl: 0
Physical Def: 2896
Element Res: 5885


Set 2:

Physical Atk: 2049 - 5845
Magic Atk: 1 - 1
Critical Hit: 12%
Attack Rate: 1.67/sec
Accuracy: 2535
Evasion: 1864
Speed: 5.0 m/s
Attack/Defense lvl: 0
Physical Def: 3068
Element Res: 5942


These statistic's are with the buffs (both sets have the same buffs):

lvl 10 Aura of the Golden Bell
lvl 10 Alter Marrow Magical
lvl 10 Fist Mastery
Spark Burst+



So, statistic wise, the main difference seems to be the physical attk, physical def, and element res. (Those would be the most important, the others are the Accuracy, Evasion, and attk/sec (which the first set didn't show because the ***Instant Strike fist, -.05 interval doesn't seem to work on the calc), and the speed).






So, I can say, yes I will agree with you, Michael_dark, that I would be slightly hardpressed to notice the difference but, at the same time when I view it via the calc that has been made for PWI, i can easily tell where the power of the two sets differenicate.

I wouldn't keep Marrow on when using PW calc. Maybe that's just me.

Anyway, I too agree with Michael. The defense difference isn't that bad, but HP drops quite a bit. On the other hand, if you use the money/time to refines or better shards, you might get even better set than with TT80 gold. Not to mention that in PvP you will get oneshot anyway, no matter your build (unless you meant duels).

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Kupuntu: Well, i plan to be in PvP, meaning I will be fighting others (not dueling). As for one-shotting, i'm charmed almost 24/7, so it is unlikely it'll be one shot b:cute

But I understand what you mean with sharding, and refines. But when you think about it, +5 on all gear that is knowabley refineable, and a +7 on the weapon, that alone is quite the expensive going. To get to +5 on gear alone is expensive, not to mention the +7 on a weapon.

The gear is most expensive because it'll be going from a no refine, to +5. The weapon would be less (for the set w/ darkflash) as it'll be starting with +4 already.




But, as for currently, expense isn't nessecarily a problem to me ^^ (I do cashshop, but i only buy items i'll use (charms, D.Orbs, maybe the rouge fashion set here and there), and the rest of the gold i sell off in Gold Trade for cash flow)

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Kupuntu: Well, i plan to be in PvP, meaning I will be fighting others (not dueling). As for one-shotting, i'm charmed almost 24/7, so it is unlikely it'll be one shot b:cute)

Yeah, it's just that unless HT is way different from Sanct, there aren't too many 8x people to fight. And if there is, the second someone spots you two fighting, 10x people oneshot you both. It sucks but that's what usually happens. If a mage deals twice as much as damage as you have HP, there's no way to survive.

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Well, it's true HT doesn't have many players (under lvl 99) that have the balls to go into PK mode.


But the people on HT, they don't really care if your in PK or not. Only certain people will RPK you, and that can be stopped by the mentioning of you having Safety Lock on (most people RPK for drops on HT anyhow).


From all experience's i've had in PK, the only way you'll die is if you run into a 99+ player at some random spot and he feels like killing something/one. Other then that, you have to be standing outside the west arch gate to get PK'd.....and that's usually done by a sin who is in stealth mode (because their too damn chicken to actually face you b:cute).

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

From all experience's i've had in PK, the only way you'll die is if you run into a 99+ player at some random spot and he feels like killing something/one. Other then that, you have to be standing outside the west arch gate to get PK'd.....and that's usually done by a sin who is in stealth mode (because their too damn chicken to actually face you b:cute).

I haven't seen a PKer outside of the West Arch gate since... I can't remember, it was like 3 months ago.

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Yeah, 90% of the lvl 90+ players who PK, are outside west arch in HT xD

Joshcja - Sanctuary

nothing before goreonox vanities out DPS's buddah fists even before you count the proc

also @ Kupuntu in your thread you forgot to mention the awsome +130 max mp add on my old fists (hell if i know how you got em)

Michael_Dark - Lost City

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Notes: All gear that is possible to refine (not sure of perfect attendance ring, so it's unrefined in both sets)) is +5 in both sets.
Weapon is +7, w/ 1 beautiful garnet and 1 flawless garnet in both sets.

+5 80 set? Umm... I wouldn't even bother going past +2. Even if you got there with mirages and tishas, it's a waste since you won't be using it all that long. Save anything higher than +3 for endgame, imo.

Refines on lower grade gear don't add up to a whole lot. Maybe take your weapon to +5, but I wouldn't even go past that. As a BM you don't need to have all that great of gear, you just need to know how to play your class properly.

SerenityMare - Dreamweaver

Good luck and early gratz on your lvl 80 when you reach it b:cute

Steopie - Heavens Tear

b:laughb:chuckle

Level 80 bm in pvp. You'll get yourself eaten alive. Dont invest any money in gear till TT90.

Dont make any serious investment / commitment to pk /pvp until level 90 - 95 at a minimum.

Dont make a substantial investment into gear until 99 / 100 and you start working on a finalised endgame build.

All serious TW guilds recruit 90+ at a minimum, with 95+ being the norm and players 100+ with decent gear being rostered for the main TWs. At level 80 you might get into a worthless joke of a TW faction, that occasionally bids and get to partake in what I call a 'bash-a-noob' TW. Where YOU are the noob and yes, you get bashed. b:victory

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Steopie: Ever hear of the guild named "WaR" (not one of the best options, but is a TW fac), or how about BaXian?

Maybe TheEmpire? No?

Well, let me put it bluntly then.


Multiple facs with recruiting lvl of lvl 60+ can easily gain enough support in a squad to overcome a bunch of CS lvl 100 idiots, who think their godly. ^.^




Michael_dark: I probably won't get out of the 80's range for a long time, so i made it +5 so that I won't die too much, and have a good chance of being able to fight back against others. (Safety Lock, Binding Charms, and Guardian scrolls are soon to be friend (xD))

Asperitas - Lost City

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Multiple facs with recruiting lvl of lvl 60+ can easily gain enough support in a squad to overcome a bunch of CS lvl 100 idiots, who think their godly. ^.^

Really...? I remember when I was 6x we got rolled by a single CQ squad. We had like 30 people and they rolled us in like 3 minutes. It's pretty hard to take down level 100 cash-shopped people charmed people when you deal like 50 damage. Just sayin'. And this was before all the REALLY csed stuff (vit stones, Lunar gear) came out.

A picture of some LC mage tab-gushing comes to mind tbh >_>

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Asperitas: Guess you didn't have much luck back then


Currently, i've seen lvl 60 people take on a lvl 100 C/S idiot and win. (When asked why, the lvl 100 replied "I just started playing 1 week ago!!!!")

So, personally it's my opinion that:

The lvl 60's who know their class, will beat the lvl 100's who don't know anything besides "Cashshop till you drop!!"

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

nothing before goreonox vanities out DPS's buddah fists even before you count the proc

also @ Kupuntu in your thread you forgot to mention the awsome +130 max mp add on my old fists (hell if i know how you got em)

I don't have your fists. I don't know who has those, but that's certainly not me. I wish I had those though.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Asperitas: Guess you didn't have much luck back then

Currently, i've seen lvl 60 people take on a lvl 100 C/S idiot and win. (When asked why, the lvl 100 replied "I just started playing 1 week ago!!!!")

So, personally it's my opinion that:

The lvl 60's who know their class, will beat the lvl 100's who don't know anything besides "Cashshop till you drop!!"

Umm... you know, you're really wrong. In PvP I often tank 2-3 10x at a time. I could probably take on a whole squad of 6x while eating a sandwich and only using a mouse with one hand.... acutally I'm pretty sure I could wipe two 6x squads without much effort. I'm not a major CSer either.

Steopie - Heavens Tear

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Steopie: Ever hear of the guild named "WaR" (not one of the best options, but is a TW fac), or how about BaXian?

Maybe TheEmpire? No?

LOL GET A CLUE.

Baxia and WaR only get out their base when a real guild are getting hit on a 3 way gank, so with them sending out a potential full 80, and the major faction sending about 10 people to each TW, as they have a more important TW to attend to.

Empire arent a bunch of lowbies, they took in a lot of higher levels from tao, and have a lot of alts which are well geared. Get your facts straight, youre clearly delusional and have no clue about the goings on.

I was right with my initial post. Follow what I said and you might not feel totally worthless after a week of pvp experiance.

And.... you clearly dont know your class, cos all you do is QQ on the forums asking for babysitting and advice. So even if your incorrect theory about level 60s who know their class being able to beat a level 100 (LOL) was correct, it wouldn't apply to you anyway. b:cryb:shutup

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Michael_dark: *looks at lvl* Yeah.....Also i knew already your not a heavy C/S'er like some people who play PWI.


Steopie: seriously......that's more of a flame troll then an actual reply.

True, those weren't some of the better examples that could of been used. But those are some of the one's that sprung to mind when i was typing that post.

TheEmpire, i know (before they began gaining power) was more of a bunch of lowbies.
BaXian (which i've been in, and TW'ed with before), are able to get outside of the base. Alot of the time's they can even reach the other base and be able to DD some. Few of those time's they were able to get the crystal down close to half before having to deal with the TW squad from the other team because they went in and ran straight to the other base thinking "Oh, they aren't in yet! Let's gank them". Along with that, i know for a fact that when BaXian is TW'ing the squad sent in against them will range from 20-30 people, not 10 little 10X people.
As for "WaR", I wasn't able to view their TW'ing, mainly because of time confliction and other things that popped up. So I'm unable to comment how they do in TW.


And the only reason I made this thread was to see what gear, from BM's who don't bother to flame a thread like you seem to love to do, would work better for lvl 80.

Besides that, i had already gotten most of the gear idea's laid out. I only wanted to see what options i would have in filling the blank slots that I was unsure of.

Steopie - Heavens Tear

Yeah. It was a fame troll.

But i am right. Im in one of the major landholding factions, Ive seen 'real' TW and 'bashanoob' TW and understand the circumstances in which noobs may do kinda well against us or similar factions, but you will never experience the true thrill of 'real' TW will atleast 90+. Its just the set standard. Listen to me and you will do well, otherwise you'll just waste time and money, while causing a lot of frustration to youtself.

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

While, i will agree with the fact that most fac's are only recruting 90+ people because of crazy TW standards and gear in the current days, i do not believe that you should have to be lvl 90+ to be able to TW and show the fun of it.

Asperitas - Lost City

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »

While, i will agree with the fact that most fac's are only recruting 90+ people because of crazy TW standards and gear in the current days, i do not believe that you should have to be lvl 90+ to be able to TW and show the fun of it.

While I do believe this is the right mindset to play the game with, other people do have a point. No matter what gear you have, if you TW/PVP at 7-8x, you're just a oneshot, two if you're lucky. Charms won't save you, apoth won't help. You're just going to burn a lot of money. It's a lot more practical to power level yourself up to 90 and get 9x gear instead. And to be honest, even at 9x, with the standards so high, I'm just a oneshot to most people. That's why I gave up trying to pimp up my 9x gear and decided to save up for endgame.

If you're okay with going out there and giving it your all, while also being oneshot left right and center, that's fine. If you got a lot of cash to toss around, hell why not make your 8x gear good. But if you're just an average player like me, you'd most likely be better off just getting average gear for 8x and start saving for decent 9x gear.

LifeHunting - Heavens Tear

Well, with the current cash flow i have from my job, i may not be able to throw around cash....but I am able to buy a set amount of gold per week, so i can easily save the cash, which in turn would easily go int othe (front) triple digits w/o much trouble.

But I do plan to be in PK mode full time when i arrive at 80. Mainly because I'm on so many people's K.O.S. that it'll be very fun to see how they deal with me actually being in PK mode b:chuckle



And i do get what people mean by 1-2 shot, even w/ charm/apoc items. But lately in HT, getting 1-2 shot (unless it's been a mage class), hasn't happened to me, even in PK mode. (Given, i did run into a lvl 101 barb about 6 weeks ago who just RPK'd me, and took about 2 hits with crits)

Asperitas - Lost City

I don't know how it's like on HT, but here on LC whenever I get pked, it's by level 100's. I'd wager that since you're on a PVE server, if you're red name, you're going to be bait for all the bored high levels out there. And when that happens, no matter how good your gear is, like you said, you're a one shot, two at most.

If I were able to consistently put in cash into this game, I'd power level myself to 100 and just get those gears, rather than staying at 80/90 and getting good gears for those levels. The gear other people suggested for 80 (Proud Plate of Corsair, Cuisses of Sea Captain etc) are more than adequate for 80's.

Having said all that, ultimately the choice is yours. You play the game for your enjoyment, not ours. We're just giving you the economical view I suppose.