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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Meh, Ive seen barbs in factions I have been on, get constantly flirted with by girls. They chat them up and bat their pretty e-lashes and then get them hooked to w/e and just ask them to farm for anything and then once they helped them, they never speak to them again.
    ROFL for real? :D I knew I should have made a fem char -.-


    TO OP... though from what I noticed he doesn't even read the replies, but just starts restating what he previously said in an uncomprehendable branch of English QQing all over.

    In majority of cases random squads will suck; you're a 99lvl barb... Looking from your posts you have bene playing for a while... yet you do not have friends to go TT with you? So you wouldn't have these issues of some random ppl who do not give a **** about you ripping you off?


    + Who uses a charm for TT o.O

    to me it just feels likes barbs are using that excuse to get more money out of people because they let there repair bill build up. enough of the crazy talk about high repair fees all you barbs and be happy with what you get. if you dont like it, go find other people who you can abuse for more money.
    I sort of agree...
    The repairs ain't that bad really...
    Our job is alot harder, more expencive and important than yours.
    I have a cleric/barb/DD... it isn't rocket science... Don't make yourself feel so special or important... I ain't giving a particular class special treatment...
    I even done it in f c c to i dont need to get used and abused yelled at swore etc.Just because i made a lv 100 barb dont make me a god i can die,loose exp loose charm and get repair bills .
    I duno why... but you seem to QQ a lot about ppl swearing , complaining, being rude to you... I play a barb... I don't remember last time I had this happen... I don't want to point fingers... But it could be the problem is with YOUR gameplay... & not the others. Though I do agree on a lot of ~100lvl being very inexp in instences besides FCC, thus making rb/TT & so on runs, pretty hard.

    I rarely ask for help myself, that's why I decided to go factionless, I end up being nagged to help more than me actually getting anything out of it; furthermore, having to see continuesless how certain ppl threaten to leave faction if others don't help them with their gears/cultis/bosses/etc. There are those ppl everywhere... Stop making it sound like it's just this game that's so bad... it's not... Met some real a-holes, but also a lot of nice ppl I enjyo playing with.
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  • buttercupcruella
    buttercupcruella Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ROFL for real? :D I knew I should have made a fem char -.-

    Yea, some chicks are shameless, but ... how guys can be so dumb?!?!?!


    TO OP... though from what I noticed he doesn't even read the replies, but just starts restating what he previously said in an uncomprehendable branch of English QQing all over.

    In majority of cases random squads will suck; you're a 99lvl barb... Looking from your posts you have bene playing for a while... yet you do not have friends to go TT with you? So you wouldn't have these issues of some random ppl who do not give a **** about you ripping you off?

    He said he was helping random people and friends; NOT that he does not have anybody to go for TT with and he needs random people. IJS.


    + Who uses a charm for TT o.O

    Lemme know when unequiping a charm will be possible.



    I sort of agree...
    The repairs ain't that bad really...

    Hmmmm... The key word here is 'bad'. It is a relative term. For some people 1 mil is a lot, for others 10 mil is nothing.


    I have a cleric/barb/DD... it isn't rocket science... Don't make yourself feel so special or important... I ain't giving a particular class special treatment...

    Special treatment is not always needed, but negative treatment is not nice for any class. However, I will state that some classes are more important, while others are less.


    I duno why... but you seem to QQ a lot about ppl swearing , complaining, being rude to you... I play a barb... I don't remember last time I had this happen... I don't want to point fingers... But it could be the problem is with YOUR gameplay... & not the others. Though I do agree on a lot of ~100lvl being very inexp in instences besides FCC, thus making rb/TT & so on runs, pretty hard.

    Guessing the OP is unlucky, and you're very lucky. All that depends on a lot of factors. Being a barb, I walked out on a couple of squads on bhs, fbs, frost, etc. However, I also met a share of really cool people who actually try to make the gaming experience pleasant.

    Words of wisdom after a chain of meh coment --->I rarely ask for help myself, that's why I decided to go factionless, I end up being nagged to help more than me actually getting anything out of it; furthermore, having to see continuesless how certain ppl threaten to leave faction if others don't help them with their gears/cultis/bosses/etc. There are those ppl everywhere... Stop making it sound like it's just this game that's so bad... it's not... Met some real a-holes, but also a lot of nice ppl I enjyo playing with.

    Adults play this game and often talk about sex, whether in a form of a joke or a serious conversation. Freedom of speech. Though it is sad when kiddos try to talk having no idea and try to sound smart, experienced, brutal, jerky or whatever. Swearing can offend some people, but hey, you can switch the chat, block the person, or just ignore it.

    As for the bad treatment... yea.. it can suck.. but look on the bright side of life.
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    He said he was helping random people and friends; NOT that he does not have anybody to go for TT with and he needs random people. IJS.
    Ok -.- Ty for translation, cause half of the time I got no idea what he's even saying...
    On the helping part... I rarely help lower lvls... I don't think he should... just me... He is QQing about others being hype nubs & not knowing their class... at the same time seems to be babying them by helping out as a higher lvl char... You don't need a 100 barb with you helping on quests/dungeons/fbs...

    Lemme know when unequiping a charm will be possible.
    Unless wolf is twing or in constant pk, which I don't think I've seen him in, there is no need for him to be charmed. I stopped using charms, it takes of a lot of pressure & extra expenses from my barb, & a lot of anger & arguments with the rest of the squad relying on the safety cushion of my charm & making me tick.
    Special treatment is not always needed, but negative treatment is not nice for any class. However, I will state that some classes are more important, while others are less.
    Then I could say I see barb as useless, since a good - int bm can tank DD & self heal. Why the hell do you a need a barb that does **** dmg in most cases.
    It just seemed to me the poster I was replying to wanted some special treatment to clerics/barbs since their job is obviously soooo much harder than the rest.
    Words of wisdom after a chain of meh coment --->I
    :D
    Adults play this game and often talk about sex, whether in a form of a joke or a serious conversation. Freedom of speech. Though it is sad when kiddos try to talk having no idea and try to sound smart, experienced, brutal, jerky or whatever. Swearing can offend some people, but hey, you can switch the chat, block the person, or just ignore it.
    Hm... maybe it's me I rarely end up playing with minors. Most I know are +20... But maybe cause I'm factionless & don't see much mindless chatter besides occasional wc spam.
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  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    no, you havent imagined it. its true....there is a lot of selfishness in this game. one of the other posters pinpointed it well-there are a lot of kids (both physically and mentally) on this game, and that means a lot of rudeness, overall lack of good manners, etc. not that im trying to say that mine are angels-i have a 14 year old that makes me so angry that i want to throw him through a brick wall, with his selfcenterness. but in a game that has a high focus on teamwork, good manners and good sportmanship is vital. you mentioned TTs- i was in one with my son the other night, and i dont think it would have ever been finished if it had not had players who were at least able to act adult. when i had to leave, to make room for a stronger player, we had been at it for over 4 hours, and everyone had been killed at least a couple of times. when i left, the first thought of the leader was how to get my split to me....something that has never happned to me, in other squads. i told her to give it to my son, because i knew he was going to have trouble paying his repair bill after that run.

    so, i would suggest that you find a guild that has folks high enough level to be able to help with your quests (important, if you dont want to be the one who is doing everyone elses quests, but never your own), but has players your age and play style. i know, tough order. another important point is find friends in the guild and out, that you can ask for help from, when you need it, and be sure to reciprocate. give and take is hard to do sometimes, but setting aside your quests to help another can pay off in the long run.


    I have to say this and please let's be adult's and young adult's and not make this in to a flame war.

    As myself i have to say this this game is for fun it's not real life it's for fun not sit there make fun of other's swearing at each other and making racest remarks to each other.

    I seen way to much on here and no wonder some are moving on to other game's and quiting this game to much stuff going on .I go in to a t-t a person ask me ok we need a barb as kind as iam i join according to the rules as every one knows after t-t the banker does a even split to every one that help's on gear's for armor,wepon's etc also helps for repair's .

    And i realy have to say this is not cheap for a barb i dont care what any one say's it's not . And i realized being a high level has a price now that some see what lv i become they all ask me help me all the time wich i dont mind if im not busy.

    Any how i go in to this t-t after the run i did mention that i dont do t-t much they ask why i stated i been ripped off to many times and stuck with a masive repair bill while the rest make coin on the mat's and they seem to think it's funny well it's not.

    I noticed some do take advange of high level's well when i started i did most of my quest solo and some quest i did in squads but either way i never took advange of any one.

    As some know when we started there was no bh so leveling was harder then.In any case back to the subject i got upset over this and simple said im sorry i cant help you guys any more then a friend pm's me said what happen so i told him then i get a wisper from another player yelling at me i said omg who are you according to this group they told him i didn't want anything omg i love it when people put word's in my mouth.


    So my point is this after getting a letter back from a gm and told me i have to becareful who i squad with this time i squad with some one i did know and still get yelled at plus no mats plus going through hell just because i sat there took time away tanked boss used up a charm plus had to do repairs only to ask where's my share.

    I was told this last year so again does it matter who you know or dont know you will get some who will leave u dry.

    Now this is becomming a issue and they wonder why a lot of barbs wont tank or do t-t's or anything im not the only barb been through this trust me.

    And then after all this i got a couple mats for my trouble after a friend stood up and said something.

    So what has this become greed,selfish,acting rude,nasty etc this is how some act on here omg grow up i bet they dont have to many friends.

    I making this clear i will not do any t-t at all unless the group is fair to share mats at the end if i get burnt i hope they understand this i will not help them again.

    I just dont understand why there's so much greed on here and the bad mouthing swearing the talking sex etc treating others like **** i never seen a game like this.

    when i played myth wars and eudemons at least there and this is a fact if you where caught swearing in wc or common chat you would get a warning next time u loose 36 hour's of no chat and then if the person decides to do it again you would have to pay 2 mil at a npc to use all chats again.

    So now i cleard some things off my chest and iam just making a point it's not nice to hurt other's or burn other's to sit there act like mr tuff guy and yell at some one u dont know for real.

    My motto is treat those how u like to be treated you treat them wrong you get it back the same way .


    So who has a commit on this forum who has been burnt in t-t or mistreated and by all means open up i know iam not the only one.
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  • Flyssa - Sanctuary
    Flyssa - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I have a cleric/barb/DD... it isn't rocket science... Don't make yourself feel so special or important... I ain't giving a particular class special treatment...

    Our job is more difficult. Ofc when it comes down to it all any of us are doing is spamming the F keys until our task is complete but barbs and clerics are put under alot more pressure than the rest of the party. If someone dies 9/10 times it will be blamed on us. Also barbs have to worry about raising more threat than the heavy DD's in the party so the aggro doesn't pass over to someone with less defense and for cleric's, we have to maintaine an entire parties HP and buffs. So what makes the other classes jobs just as difficult as ours? Since you play all 3 (at what I would assume would be at a high level of experience otherwise you shouldn't be talking) then you should have a descent understanding of what I am talking about.
    For those who have little experience as a healer or a tank, have some respect. Our job can be stressful at times. In a FB/TT etc. we are the ones making sure you don't die.
  • Witchiewomen - Sanctuary
    Witchiewomen - Sanctuary Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i agree with what is being about ppl being greedy, selfish and rude. i have a friend that is a barb and cleric and he is discusted cos he is a high lvl and ppl take advantage of. also ppl just look at venos with just hurcs and if u don't have one they don't want u. i am still good with out a heric, but anyways thats not why i'm typing this for but if we didn't have barbs or clerics what would happen then? its really sad how ppl treat the barbs and clerics ppl need to really grow up and stop blamming the barb or cleric if the archor takes argo its not the barbs fault that an archor gets killed and its also not the clerics fault either omg what is this game coming to when we all blame the barb and clerics i have a cleric too but i don't use it cos i'm so tired of getting yelled at for not healing or cos someone died cos i didn't heal them fast enough. just wish that ppl would think of how hard that the barbs and clerics have. ppl really need to respect other regardless of what their ages r.and why should a barb be smacked up side the head for thats just rude.b:angry i would never hit someone over the head even if it was a child or young adult so grow up ppl and act ur age not ur shoe size.
  • Black_wolve - Sanctuary
    Black_wolve - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    That is very true indeed not only barb's and cleric's take a lot of **** but we aint god so we do go through more stress than other classes we are the one's who are called in to t-t ,fcc,delta,lunar,nirvana,etc and why barbs have more vit clerics heal and rez when you die.

    I have a cleric lv 78 infact i know bouth my cleric and barb trust me those 2 class are the one's who get blamed the most.Such your not keeping argo your not healing or your not rezing in time or the best part is are you exp ? I been ask this many time's in fcc gee if i was not exp then why am i in fcc for my heath lol i mean come on now i know that run blind folded but im not going to say iam perfect iam not .

    Most people like to rush in to FCC think ok the faster we do this the more exp we get by using hyper stones but yet i been through seval runs i have died because of people rushing in think there god omg .

    But yet i realy dont think as i have heard from other player's the gm's here dont want to get involved with what's going on with the swearing the abuse what so ever dont forget money becomes power power becomes control etc.


    This is what i have been told any time i send a ticket all i get is cant you block them well how many people can you block or ignor there must be a limit.

    We do are best as human's and parents to teach are children right from wrong but having a 8 year old swearing or talking sex to older player's regardless why is that allowed and yes it's part of the parent's faught by allowing there children to play thease games but the child or young adult or older is attracted to thease online games from youtube webb etc that any company puts out and the reason why is to make money.

    But regardless with out security on that game wouldn't that put any young adult in harms way? see what im getting at?I spoke to a few differnt women on pwi and they told me through the past year they found out that the person they where talking to was a registerd sex affender so in any case any online game can be scary as i said you realy dont know who and what that person is behind that screen only know that person by char.

    But at least i know the ones i chat with most of them my age group and married in real life or not married but have children ad some are single but there very mature .


    But back to my post no one should be treated like dirt even in a t-t run because if i get mistreated by a player they better understand this they lost a good player and lost my respect.

    Life is to short injoy life as it was your last you never know when your time is up stop with the **** stop being selfish and maybe you can gain a friend maybe you can learn from that player or better maybe you have a good team mate to do runs with a person you can trust
  • XxIfritxX - Lost City
    XxIfritxX - Lost City Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    A- Don't squad with Strangers!!

    B- have a list with ppl u know to run HH's with !!

    C- If you see an archer pk his **** !!! " I'll tell u later why "

    D- I have final exam after 4 days O.o
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  • MsMay - Raging Tide
    MsMay - Raging Tide Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    People are nice to me... but I think It's obvious why.
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    QQ get over your class superiority. Everyone in the squad has a job to do. Everyone's job is equally important. Everyone has costs.

    If you have the attitude that "I am the barb, I deserve best pick!", then I can see why you didnt get your "fair share". I have seen more than a few of those types, and I have been TTing since lvl 54.

    Maybe now you know how DDs feel when they can barely gear up because of "Barb/Cleric" picks.

    b:bye
  • Malei - Sanctuary
    Malei - Sanctuary Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    QQ get over your class superiority. Everyone in the squad has a job to do. Everyone's job is equally important. Everyone has costs.

    If you have the attitude that "I am the barb, I deserve best pick!", then I can see why you didnt get your "fair share". I have seen more than a few of those types, and I have been TTing since lvl 54.

    Maybe now you know how DDs feel when they can barely gear up because of "Barb/Cleric" picks.

    b:bye

    I honestly have to agree with this. Nothing worse than going TT with a barb/cleric who feels like they deserve the best mats in the group, even if I died several times in the process. I understand there is courtesy, but like said before, your repair bill should not be outrageous, 100k+ from TT alone after you've repaired before? That's insane. Repair your stuff before going into the dungeon, please.

    And clerics, I know Mana cost is insane, but you have apo for that. Apo is the cheapest skill to level up and master, and those pots do -wonders- for MP. I play both a wizard and a cleric, and the one skill I made sure to level up on both girls was apo to ensure that their MP would never deplete nor would I have to spend more than 15k to make 50 pots that recovers 3k mana in 30 secs, or even more. The last thing you can complain about is mana. Death and dying for the squad, I can understand, but it is your squad's job to make sure that you do not die. If the entire party wipes, it should be to make sure you live. I've died willingly, and continue to do so still, to make sure the cleric lives. Does that mean I deserve the crappiest mat?

    Its why I run TT myself unless I absolutely have to. The barb/cleric with that God complex. The squads that **** you out on mats. Sick of those.


    At OP: I completely hear what you are saying. Treat others how you wish to be treated. There are a lot of kids in this game, and by kids, I mean adults who act like kids as well, so respect is a hard thing to come by. All I can say is stick to the kind you know and trust, and leave randoms with who they belong with. Randoms.
  • Black_wolve - Sanctuary
    Black_wolve - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Well i do repair all on all my stuff and yes it does go high in repair bills as you get higher in level so does your armor etc the higher the armor the more it cost for repairs .Veno's may have repair bills but also they have pets to take most of the damage+ a lot of veno's have herc's wich i think is way over rated no one wants to invite a veno with out a herc wich is very rude and selfish.

    I seen veno's who dont have hercs do a better job then the one's who have hercs please dont complain about food a herc or nix is a option.

    I also noticed when you gather a team for a bh run for seat or t-t 3-3 or delta etc no cleric wants to join unless it's free well i seen that to but yet a person who buys the wine spends a lot but some exspect it to be free not going to happen sorry.I was in a bh every one was fighting over last boss if a book droped they said that book should go to the class it says what ever happen to random drops?


    You pay for the wine so it's fair there should be no fighting over what drops come out stop acting like baby's be adults it's a game not real life.

    And and one says it's free wine dont believe it i been in a few they exspect all drops including molds so there's always a catch.

    And i just love it when people are so gready and act nasty and act rude and dont care for any one but them selfs they must be very loney people in real life to act like that .

    Iam not blaming all cleric's but come on are some realy afraied of seat of tourment?some that scraed omg.

    It seems to be that this game alone has ruin friendships, relationships etc and it's true i spoke to a few who have quit this game and gave there toons to there kids there fed up with the gossip ,the drama and the way people act and yet i spoke to a gm on another game not from this company and he told me they dont allow swearing talking sex etc witch i was surprised to see well any how take care peeps
  • Reshanta - Sanctuary
    Reshanta - Sanctuary Posts: 350 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Yeah you and I experience opposite ordeals, only I just started, while you've played for a while, but this is nothing new to me either as I've been on your side of the problem many times. After awhile you sorta gain a "sixth sense" for being used and abused. Familiarize yourself with all the usual "kindness" when it comes to those "tough and popular" missions and decline. And as a tank, I'm sure you're more than acquainted with that "I got a bad feeling about this.." feeling. I wanna say..don't go if you have that feeling but hey you never know..might not be what you think.

    Being an altruistic helper is a very thankless selfless job and unfortunately being such draws out the greed in others.

    Welcome to the harsh internet where a lot of people simple don't give a darn.

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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I also noticed when you gather a team for a bh run for seat or t-t 3-3 or delta etc no cleric wants to join unless it's free well i seen that to but yet a person who buys the wine spends a lot but some exspect it to be free not going to happen sorry
    o.o Are we even playing on the same serv??? I never had a cleric/barb join then demand free wine. Sometimes we are lacking a barb/cleric/etc & because I don't want to wait tons of time for a friend to come online I will shout out for a free booze/sub/so-on run, but that's for my own convenience. Just if I wc doesn't mean every single free person should respond... Maybe they short on cash, or that bh is not that important to them, yet when they see the run is free they join. That's cool with me.
    Veno's may have repair bills but also they have pets to take most of the damage+ a lot of veno's have herc's wich i think is way over rated no one wants to invite a veno with out a herc wich is very rude and selfish.
    Omg not your QQ about venos without herks again -.- You had an entire QQ thread on it before.

    I was in a bh every one was fighting over last boss if a book droped they said that book should go to the class it says what ever happen to random drops?
    Some squads pref random distribution, if it's a rainbow squad I don't see why it can't be book to class; nothing wrong with squad members discussing it...
    And and one says it's free wine dont believe it i been in a few they exspect all drops including molds so there's always a catch.
    How long have u been playing... A DAY? Seriously... If a person wines it's usualy drops to him, unless a person is very nice & claims that drops are random DISPITE them using their funds to wine. Aren't you the cheap one? Smb used their money for all the wine yet you get drops? Wow... I usually give up the drops myself willingly if one squad member was nice enough to pay for all.
    However, there are some instances which I rather pay wine/etc share but have random distribution, than 1 person getting all.
    And i just love it when people are so gready and act nasty and act rude and dont care for any one but them selfs they must be very loney people in real life to act like that .
    You just like QQ don't you? You don't even stick to topic... You just jump from one thing to another just for sake of QQ... All your threads are QQ
    Iam not blaming all cleric's but come on are some realy afraied of seat of tourment?some that scraed omg.
    <_< I saw you wc for bhs a few times... I didn't join... wanna guess why?
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  • Black_wolve - Sanctuary
    Black_wolve - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    VlLKASS,

    Let me say this ok in tearm's may help you understand and it is very simple i been on this game for a long time and i helped out so many people out with out asking for a thing so how can you say anything about me if you dont know me?

    In any case i seen to many fight over book's including bh 89 when a barb book droped there was no giving book to barb or a veno,cleric,wizzy,archer etc to that class they kept that book sold in ah for a few mil or higher.

    Same as in bh 99 i never seen yet a book drop it goes to that class every one exspects it.

    I was in a few squads where people would sit there fight over stupid thing's like 2 kid's fighting over a toy and even then when i seen a person say free wine they dont say all drops go to wine person till the end and yet this becomes a major issue you dont have any clue who iam so please dont sit there run your mouth about me .

    At least i can say when i used to do free wine i never ask for all drops maybe because i have a heart not selfish like some on this game.

    And further more i dont charge high like most do i only charge 42k for bh99 and i know i can charge more if i wanted to and yet iam not being gready so this way after every one pays the random drops go to every one so it's fair.

    And to be honest i had a few people would say this i will only do if it's free wine this is no joke i had some say i charge to high then even in fcc we had a few who kept complaing about pots they wont come till some one buys there pots aint my problem they choose that class i have a cleric i dont use it much at all but when i do use my cleric i dont complain all the mp pots i use it's part of being that toon.

    And another thing if that person didn't have the coin i was fair and tell them to mail it to me when they have it so yes i grew a lot of peoples respect im not gready iam fair and will work with a person.

    I have a real life i make honest money i pay my bill's feed my family feed my animals and when everything is done i play a online game and if your intest in knowing how long i played put it this way when i started pwi there was no such thing as bh or marriage quest and hp mp charms ran in the 500k mark thats how long i known pwi.

    But it's how people treat other's on here the more time's you get used and abused the more you get tuff and say no when people started charging high for mats they farm the wine price goes up.

    Same as the topic i wrote you do a t-t run this is how it starts they ask for help they should no of the bat when a banker holds all the stuff at the end it goes out to all player's not sit there and put things in a persons mouth says you didnt ask for anything and take off while u sit there with no share.

    And when i did sub and banked and when it was done i was fair shared it all out not take all mats and run away i dont ripp people off like some do.

    And if you noticed a few dont stick to the topic they talk about other things so if some one says something off the topic i will answere to it .

    I realy dont care who you are what you do and to be honest you dont need to respond to what i say in wc thats who you are if you dont like me oh well thats life .

    I can imagine my name been past through pwi as a bad person or dont do runs with him or dont help him etc i dont care befor any one acuse me of being any of that they better have proof im that way that's all i have to say about that im not a child and bad mouth some one broad cast or tell my buddys about that some one if i dont like some one i block them move on end of story
  • Xpence - Archosaur
    Xpence - Archosaur Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I was reading this topic a lot and decided to write smg lil also :) As a cleric I often get called to rez someone or just help with some boss in TT.Several times some players from my guild were havin probs in TT and needed cleric to rez.Once I was pretty far from TT but saw they were writin a lot for help but seems like there wasnt mutch help available this time.So I decided to ignore the fact I was pretty low on cash and spend money on teleports to reach them.After gettin squad invitation I funally reached them in the TT.Rezed em all and only got one ty from 1 of the members -the rest were totally silent and acting like I wasnt there.I decided to ignore this also and buffed em all and healed em to help em get the boss.Again all my actions were followed by silence.Then I just said"I guess u dont need me anymore."and the same thing...not even a word.Well no need to mention that no one cared that I used cash to tele and I didnt demand em to pay me -single nice attitude would be enough. And there comes the opposite case(just to prove that they re still nice ppl)-got called in TT to help with one of the bosses.The other cleric didnt let me BB because she didnt want me to waste mana,after we got finished with the boss I said"gl and cya"and then she said"wait"and offered me trade.I wasnt expectin it but still...she gave me 2 mirages and apologized for not havein more.Honestly said that was the kindest thing I seen in my gamin experience in pwi lately.Someone cared. :) So yeah there are idiotic greedy ppl but along are also some that still dont sell their good attitude for pixels :)
    Xpence-lvl94cleric(retired thx to crappy ups...sigh.. could be a nice game..)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Black_wolve - Sanctuary
    Black_wolve - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    What i dont understand is this is only a game for injoy ment to have fun but yet how can a person injoy a game or better yet do a t-t etc with out those out there acting out in selfish,rude treating other's like dirt and even swearing at other's.

    I use to love t-t used to do it all the time just to pass time but now i learn you cant trust even your friends in there even some friends will burn you.Who in god's name make's up the price's on thease t-t mats there not bought by gold or bought online the other way to get t-t mats is using chips plus coin but thats not worth it.

    Show's more greed by selling thease mats such a high price and then when it come's to gold mats people fight over that to like a bunch of seagulls fighting over french fry's at mcdonalds parking lot.GOD grow up maybe yet some aint mature enough to play thease games yet.

    I even have spent coin when a barb leave's there squad there stuck in t-t and when i arrive there i get the cold treat ment from some player's but if im lucky i may get a ty and after speaking to 5 differnt barbs yetserday they told me that it seems to be a war between clerics and barbs that cleric's yell at barbs for not tanking and keeping argo in t-t etc and some barbs yelling for not healing .

    Just because a few barbs or clerics act like baby's and maybe not mature enough to act there age dont make the rest of us bad that what make's me mad .

    Try doing a bh in t-t 3-3 where no clerics show up for a whole day you know there on but yet when you wc it they dont come because they may not like you oh well just because you may not like 1 person you have to punish all member's again it's very childlish to act out that way but at the same time that same person try's to get a squad for 3-3 etc they wonder why they cant get a tank etc.

    1 hand wash the other my friends rember that.

    This is a game not day care center dont be like that 1 child in the back saying mine all the time.I dont like getting used and abused nor do i like it when people put words in my mouth the way i was brought up if u have some thing nasty to say keep it to your self.

    No one wants to be riped off in t-t but it happends do what i do is take a screen shot of all names in that squad if they pass out mats at the end all leave u dont get a share write down the names keep a record of it so u know next time not to squad with any of those people.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    this game attracts kids more than it does players.

    Definitely. If there's one issue with this game, it's the community.


    I remember once I got lucky in a BH group and got a mold. A red sin asked me what mold, I told her. Then as we were teleporting out, she attacked me. I wasn't sure if it was kidding or not, cause I got teleported out immediately after the first attack. Still, she had relogged, which to me made it incredibly obvious that she was resetting her safety lock.

    Next boss, I decided to be careful. After it dies, I stand there ready for an attack, and at first she does nothing. Thing is, Sin vs. Psy. If I attack first, she's toast. Otherwise I am.
    I decided that I'd rather not cause an accidental fight with someone. She could've been joking with the first attack, and I was VERY sure her safety lock wasn't on, so if I killed her and she dropped something just before we tele'd out and she had been joking, then holy **** that'd cause drama.

    Well, she attacked me, and of course she got me. I messaged her a friendly message saying "and to think I almost blasted you, but decided not to. xD"


    Her responses the entire time?

    "**** noob."
    "QQ more."
    "two shots bish."



    Everyone in this game is SOOOOOO friggin' on guard all the time, as if they think every other player is out to get them. The result is always something like this:


    "Hey can I see that item real quick? Curious what it is"
    "Why? >.>"
    "OH SO YOU DON'T WANT ME SEEING IT HUH?! IT'S CAUSE YOU PLAN TO ROB ME RIGHT?!
    "OMG **** NOOB -attacks-"


    Another great example is that I once dueled a guy three times and beat him three times. He decided that was a good reason to log on his barb that was 40 levels higher than me and PK me for the next half hour.




    Perhaps some of you have read my other thread about the event, too. Someone figures they can rank better in another class, and what do they do? They immediately try to cheat the system so they can rank TWICE. Hell, what was once our top 10 Psy list is now our 10-20 list. Why? Cause a bunch of dickweeds have made Psy alts and they party them to boost their score.




    People on this game are incredibly selfish, childish and proud. They'll start a fight for the sake of money, they'll believe they have a rightful claim on things they do NOT, and they'll never back down because they refuse to lose any ego points.


    Just find some nice people and hang onto them. That's my advice for this game.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • Black_wolve - Sanctuary
    Black_wolve - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    very true Longknife,A lot do get to gready it's almost like they never get enough coin so they charge higher prices and i hate to say this but this game wont last long i seen a lot of games fail over this ****.

    A few month's ago i had help a friend do a fb39 and after the fact got to town well i was heading to do a t-t this lv 100 barb pk a lv 40 something player took all his stuff and ran off and why to bully low levels around take there stuff and run .

    I was in a bh89 a couple months ago i get a mold this cleric was nagging me over and over for the mold i said omg it's random drops leave me alone it's the same in t-t they fight over the mats share only to whome they think should get it and burn the rest i even had some that would sell all mats and send coin to al player's.

    But now i noticed after talkig to seval high levels for bh's no cleric wants to help and then i told them tonight dont feel bad im backed up 6 bh's and why no clerics want to join squad's it's becomming real bad on pwi now days and yet as i said im not going to slander all cleric's or barbs but the saying goes the one's who act childlish and rude etc are making it bad for other's.

    It's very hard to know who is your friend on thease games who to trust who to squad with i had friends who where fun and active now those friends quit pwi there fed up with the drama,the ****,and how they got ripped off and treated i cant blame them for leaving but loosing good friends like that kind of makes you mad.

    I cant understand why the GM's wont do anything about this a lot say they dont care what is said or what goes on etc people swear and yell and make fun of people mothers everyday i seen it nothing gets done.I know i have been on other games the gm's from those games dont mess around at all.

    My point is that t-t is nothing more than a place to farm i solo t-t now most i spoke to are doing it that way. And i dont think that the tearms of service means anything infact people go against it every day because a lot of people dont care.

    Now nirvana over rated it seems that way now lunar i very rare see people doing run's there and t-t is nothing but a place to farm it's pretty sad aint it.

    So again as i said i take down names from t-t who had ripped me off and i collected a list so im aware who not to squad with and people like this ruin it for every one.

    I had a friend who done a few runs after those runs this other person wanted to duel him he said no then this player says let me pk you he replys no frigging way and again wen he told me this i told him all he wanted was your stuff to sell this was a few months ago.

    As i said i was taught this keep your friends close but keep your enemys closer and also 1 hand wash the other if i help some one it's out of kindness if i do a t-t run i make it clear i dont ask for much at all is something to cover the cost for repairs. And that run i did this squad got 9 mirage stones and other high mats as i said from the beging of this post what happen to me .

    This was not the first time it's happen and trust me im more careful now.
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Definitely. If there's one issue with this game, it's the community.


    Everyone in this game is SOOOOOO friggin' on guard all the time, as if they think every other player is out to get them.

    .....Well it IS a PvP server. And what with the 90+ factions out RPKing, it sometimes pays to be on guard.

    But seriously, I agree. Every time I ask for help from anybody, faction or otherwise, I ALWAYS put a little into paying for repairs, be it the Veno is a tank or the Barb. It makes them realize just how important they are to a squad. (I don't, however, pay Assassins for Tanking....partially because they A:) Can't tank and B:) I hate Assassins.)

    Quite honestly, if you're doing a TT run, you ask what mats people need BEFORE you even start, especially if you're not doing it with a faction group. Otherwise, especially if you're on a PvP server, people will rip and tear at one another's throat for a Mat you could EASILY find at west arch for only a few coins.

    This is why having a good faction is always a bonus. You don't have to worry about getting into massive **** fests over stupid things like materials and such.

    And if people don't appreciate you for helping them, just don't help them at all. I'd LOVE to see that whiny cleric tank.
    (As far as it goes, a lot of clerics are whiny, complaining sons of camels....particularly the new ones that are all like: LAWRL u l1sten to m3 'cause i h3al u k if u dont i let u die k? You've got to love it.)
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    i often wonder how many players accidently start up on a PVP server, not knowing the difference between PVP and PVE. i know i did....i came here from another game, that does have PVP, but its not common, and you can refuse, so it was never an issue i thought of, let alone ever heard it named. so i came here, shortly after PWI started, and had my first characters on LC. i was happy as a clam, loving every minute of the time ingame....until i hit lv 30 and was white named. after that was sheer misery. i couldnt understand why everyone was trying to kill me (at that time, RQ was owning most of the map, i think, and they used to have archers camp out lv30 areas like Secret Passage and Flag Hill, killing the new 30s just to be mean, not that we had anything to drop. just cruelty). i was devastated...i couldnt understand why anyone would want to kill me, when i was just doing my quests, minding my own business. wound up giving my newly bought swan, panther and clothes to a friend, and moved to HT, where i've been ever since.

    and i wish there were some way to warn new players about the PVE/PVP system, and what happens on each kind of server.


    Definitely. If there's one issue with this game, it's the community.


    I remember once I got lucky in a BH group and got a mold. A red sin asked me what mold, I told her. Then as we were teleporting out, she attacked me. I wasn't sure if it was kidding or not, cause I got teleported out immediately after the first attack. Still, she had relogged, which to me made it incredibly obvious that she was resetting her safety lock.

    Next boss, I decided to be careful. After it dies, I stand there ready for an attack, and at first she does nothing. Thing is, Sin vs. Psy. If I attack first, she's toast. Otherwise I am.
    I decided that I'd rather not cause an accidental fight with someone. She could've been joking with the first attack, and I was VERY sure her safety lock wasn't on, so if I killed her and she dropped something just before we tele'd out and she had been joking, then holy **** that'd cause drama.

    Well, she attacked me, and of course she got me. I messaged her a friendly message saying "and to think I almost blasted you, but decided not to. xD"


    Her responses the entire time?

    "**** noob."
    "QQ more."
    "two shots bish."



    Everyone in this game is SOOOOOO friggin' on guard all the time, as if they think every other player is out to get them. The result is always something like this:


    "Hey can I see that item real quick? Curious what it is"
    "Why? >.>"
    "OH SO YOU DON'T WANT ME SEEING IT HUH?! IT'S CAUSE YOU PLAN TO ROB ME RIGHT?!
    "OMG **** NOOB -attacks-"


    Another great example is that I once dueled a guy three times and beat him three times. He decided that was a good reason to log on his barb that was 40 levels higher than me and PK me for the next half hour.




    Perhaps some of you have read my other thread about the event, too. Someone figures they can rank better in another class, and what do they do? They immediately try to cheat the system so they can rank TWICE. Hell, what was once our top 10 Psy list is now our 10-20 list. Why? Cause a bunch of dickweeds have made Psy alts and they party them to boost their score.




    People on this game are incredibly selfish, childish and proud. They'll start a fight for the sake of money, they'll believe they have a rightful claim on things they do NOT, and they'll never back down because they refuse to lose any ego points.


    Just find some nice people and hang onto them. That's my advice for this game.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    (and hugs to Flauschkatze for the sig!)
    "Thanks for writing me-- it's always great to hear from a vet.

    -FrankieRaye"
    Playing here since '08b:heart
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Longknife that be a harshland only problem or something?
    O_o'
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
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    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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